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Potato1
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To what end, when does the end come?
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Tom317
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No-one knows. It is said that these events may bring the age of peace that Mary has promised in many visitations. Then after that the world becomes corrupt again, the Great Tribulation begins, anti-christ, etc…the second coming of Christ.
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luvmykids
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I’m not so sure. I don’t want anything to do with demons. I don’t want to know of them, see them, hear them, etc…I also don’t think that the people who were left would be able to go on, knowing how the others went. It’s one thing to say “my mother died of a heart attack”, and another to say,“oh, my mother was devoured by demons back in the late 40’s, you know back in those 3 days of darkness”, or something like that.
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Potato1
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Ok so what if I am a doctor, before the three days, I have working knoledge of how to treat people. I make it though the three days, are you saying that in these small farming communities there will not be a need for doctors. kind of like in the old west.
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Tom317
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No, but true Chirst-centered doctors are a very rare breed today. It would be wonderful place if such people were Christ centered.Ok so what if I am a doctor, before the three days, I have working knoledge of how to treat people. I make it though the three days, are you saying that in these small farming communities there will not be a need for doctors. kind of like in the old west.
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luvmykids
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Maybe, but we are not talking about a car crash here or even a nuclear blast…don’t you think it would be torturous to die being attacked by demons?
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Potato1
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but they do exist. ffew though they may be and because they are so few they would be in demand. They would indeed have a “career” as would engineers, construction workers, agriculturist scientist, priests, teachers. Those who survive the three days are also not without sin, or the ability to sin, so greed lust, and the like would still be present. leading to monitary careers, and other sinning in the world. This is not exactly a "new Jerusalem that would be built, it is not as if we as humans could build paradise.
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Potato1
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How do demons devour you?
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luvmykids
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I don’t really know…good question…but how do they kill you? With a knife, or their teeth?
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luvmykids
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Do they have teeth?
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Potato1
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That is precisely my point, one does not know how horrible a dath it is so one cannot really say that it is better or worse than being bitten by a pit bull to use your teethe analogy or an american pow tortured and killed in iraq. These are all “demons” devouring you. Death in itself is a consequence of sin. or a literary “demon” demons can be like dark angels or like just your own “personal demons” after all that is how most possesions get hold of thier posesee, through thier own “demons” if you will.
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marybee
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OK, I am going to ask the question since no one else did.
Are beeswax candles going to go up in price right before?
Won’t they bee sold out? Will the beeswax market be able to supply the demand when needed?
Don’t you know bees are dying off by 1/4?
That is Satans doing isn’t?
Are beeswax candles going to go up in price right before?
Won’t they bee sold out? Will the beeswax market be able to supply the demand when needed?
Don’t you know bees are dying off by 1/4?
That is Satans doing isn’t?
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Jennifer_G
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With their looks? (probably suffocating paralysis or something)
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Potato1
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Wow, I didnt even relate the bees with this. Interesting.
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luvmykids
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AlexV
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Demons are not empowered with the ability to kill human beings.
THAT’S a solid teaching of the Church, found in the Fathers, and based on God’s forbidding Satan to kill Job.
Demons don’t kill people.
Demons are also not pent up in some geographical location at God’s whim, ready to be unleashed on earth.
Demons can possess human beings. I guess those demons got their get out of jail free cards for the day?
In any case, this trash story has changed every time its retold. Not so long ago Tom was arguing the people caught outside wouldn’t be godfearing. Now we learn there will only be dead people, animated by demons. What’s next? Demons coming through chimneys to look for beeswax?
THAT’S a solid teaching of the Church, found in the Fathers, and based on God’s forbidding Satan to kill Job.
Demons don’t kill people.
Demons are also not pent up in some geographical location at God’s whim, ready to be unleashed on earth.
Demons can possess human beings. I guess those demons got their get out of jail free cards for the day?
In any case, this trash story has changed every time its retold. Not so long ago Tom was arguing the people caught outside wouldn’t be godfearing. Now we learn there will only be dead people, animated by demons. What’s next? Demons coming through chimneys to look for beeswax?
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Potato1
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Weather or not God could ave demons kill people is a non issue. they could die from something else but as soon as you slap the label of Church teaching on it you had better be able to back it up so lets see your sources. Many a possesed person has died. Also, I can tell from your previous post that you and Tom don’t get along, so please stop attacking and trying to pick a fight with him. In short, be nice, or dont play.
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AlexV
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This isn’t about “getting along with Tom”.
It’s about correcting falsehood.
People have indeed died during possession/exorcism.
Doesn’t mean the demon killed them.
NOWHERE in any Church tradition, let alone Sacred Scripture, do demons or Satan kill human beings.
I repeat, Tom’s story changed. When he saw he lost on the showing mercy issue, he changed his tune to “They’ll all be demons!”
What’s the next change?
It’s about correcting falsehood.
People have indeed died during possession/exorcism.
Doesn’t mean the demon killed them.
NOWHERE in any Church tradition, let alone Sacred Scripture, do demons or Satan kill human beings.
I repeat, Tom’s story changed. When he saw he lost on the showing mercy issue, he changed his tune to “They’ll all be demons!”
What’s the next change?
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Tom317
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Please, read the prophecies. I did not change, I simply continued to respond and fill in details as challenges and questions were posed to me. The prophecies state that hell will be opened and that there will not be one demon left in hell and that they will all be on earth for the purpose of destroying everyone they can. I did not make that up, nor did I change anything, that is simply what the prophecies state. I posted at least one link before, go to that link and you will see. I also did not post that detail to change my views on mercy, it just simply occurred to me in the middle of this rather intense conversation that the only thing that can be left outside the homes are demons, because the living humans will be nearly instantly killed just like as with the great flood. The point is mercy must be extended as you and others say, but in the scenario of the three days there would be be no-one to show mercy to beyond the people who are in your home.
Now please, Catholic to Catholic, I am not some nutcase that wants to lead people astray, nor do I take anything about the faith lightly, and nor am I weak in formation, so understand that we simply see these matters differently.
You think that the three days of darkness is utter nonsense, I do not. Take a breath and realize that there is room for us to disagree and yet still be faithful Catholics.
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Tom317
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I agree, but not like the careers of so many people today, they would be servants, not self centered people out for their own advancement.
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