Three Days of Darkness?

[Tom317]

Also, it can’t be suicide if we aren’t bound by the Church to believe private revelation. Since public Revelation is closed and private revelation doesn’t bind us, we could see a flame in the sky saying “Get your beeswax candles by 6PM” and we wouldn’t be committing suicide.

It depends on the heart.

 

[Potato1]

You are free to believe or not believe. However, say you chose to remain outside because you believe you would be killed, well that is an admission of belief and it would then be a form of suicide. Beyond that, life is precious and we are not allowed to just take our own life or to unreasonably place ourselves in harms way.

It would be a form of false worship if we wanted to be here more then heaven, yet that is not what I am saying. We should want to live here so long as God wants us here.

ok, well for sake of logical argument here lets say that I choose not to believe. (which I haven’t decided) which we have agreed that I am free to do w/o consequence of sin. Then bam, warning comes, and I can’t find a beeswax candle, priest to bless it, or blinds for my windows. Then I am not choosing to “commit suicide” because I have kept the commandments, and the Teachings of the faith, I listen to my heart which LONGS for heaven as should anyone’s. The point is that even in the confines of Catholisism, this is not well known, it is not an essential of the faith if you will. And while I do not EVER question Gods ability to in HIs justice choose to chastise the earth, after all all suffering and bad things are from sin, I also believe that if I die in the three days, or in a hurricane tommorow or any other tibulation I fear not for my soul. I don’t run out into a hurricane and say, strike me down Lord, but at the same time I do not fear death.

If you WANT to be here more than heaven, (with God) then you are worshiping the secular over the Holy, however if you feel CALLED to remain here until your death which could be shortly after the three days anyway (pointless) then by all means watch in horror (or vindication) the destruction of most of the world.

 

[Tom317]

ok, well for sake of logical argument here lets say that I choose not to believe. (which I haven’t decided) which we have agreed that I am free to do w/o consequence of sin. Then bam, warning comes, and I can’t find a beeswax candle, priest to bless it, or blinds for my windows. Then I am not choosing to “commit suicide” because I have kept the commandments, and the Teachings of the faith, I listen to my heart which LONGS for heaven as should anyone’s. The point is that even in the confines of Catholisism, this is not well known, it is not an essential of the faith if you will. And while I do not EVER question Gods ability to in HIs justice choose to chastise the earth, after all all suffering and bad things are from sin, I also believe that if I die in the three days, or in a hurricane tommorow or any other tibulation I fear not for my soul. I don’t run out into a hurricane and say, strike me down Lord, but at the same time I do not fear death.

If you WANT to be here more than heaven, (with God) then you are worshiping the secular over the Holy, however if you feel CALLED to remain here until your death which could be shortly after the three days anyway (pointless) then by all means watch in horror (or vindication) the destruction of most of the world.

I agree with nearly everything you wrote. I would only add that we are called to live our lives, we are not called to die just because we fear the wrath of God. Try to picture how well things would have gone if Noah and family had chosen to jump into the flooding waters. I agree 100% that we are not to want to be here more then heaven, but we are supposed to live our lives until God calls us home.

 

[Potato1]

. However, say you chose to remain outside because you believe you would be killed, well that is an admission of belief and it would then be a form of suicide…

What if I choose to remain outside because I am ministering to each and every soul I can, trying to get them to repent, turn to the Lord and be saved, Helping them to die in a state of grace. What if I give my candles and house to a friend, As Christ said, there is no greater love than for a man to lay down his life for his friends.

 

[Tom317]

What if I choose to remain outside because I am ministering to each and every soul I can, trying to get them to repent, turn to the Lord and be saved, Helping them to die in a state of grace. What if I give my candles and house to a friend, As Christ said, there is no greater love than for a man to lay down his life for his friends.

I think you know that is different.

 

[Potato1]

I agree with nearly everything you wrote. I would only add that we are called to live our lives, we are not called to die just because we fear the wrath of God. Try to picture how well things would have gone if Noah and family had chosen to jump into the flooding waters. I agree 100% that we are not to want to be here more then heaven, but we are supposed to live our lives until God calls us home.

Yes I agree, but it sounds like God is calling MANY people to be somewhere else on those three days, some to Hell and some to heaven and some (a minority) to stay here. so I shall rank them. 1 heaven 2 earth 3 hell. Sounds to me like we should be praying to be taken on those days?

 

[Potato1]

I think you know that is different.

different as in accepatble? because that is probably what I would do at this point, instead of hiding inside.

 

[Tom317]

Yes I agree, but it sounds like God is calling MANY people to be somewhere else on those three days, some to Hell and some to heaven and some (a minority) to stay here. so I shall rank them. 1 heaven 2 earth 3 hell. Sounds to me like we should be praying to be taken on those days?

I think we should pray for the Lord’s will be done.

 

[Tom317]

different as in accepatble? because that is probably what I would do at this point, instead of hiding inside.

Honestly, I doubt you would have time. From what I understand it will come upon the world like the flood, fast and inescapable.

 

[Potato1]

I think we should pray for the Lord’s will be done.

True, but we can pray for anything we wish. God will do his will anyway. Just like you can pray that your child lives through cancer. I Choose to pray that I am in heaven IN GODS WILL, sooner rather than later.

 

[Tom317]

True, but we can pray for anything we wish. God will do his will anyway. Just like you can pray that your child lives through cancer. I Choose to pray that I am in heaven IN GODS WILL, sooner rather than later.

okay

 

[Potato1]

Honestly, I doubt you would have time. From what I understand it will come upon the world like the flood, fast and inescapable.

Earlier in this thread it was agreed that we would have ample warning. Many of the revelations talk of at least some time to prepare, I mean you would have to have time to get home if you were at work, or even five minutes to close your windows and doors?

 

[luvmykids]

This is not even comparable to the flood if this is really true. What way would you rather go, demons, or a flood?

 

[Tom317]

Earlier in this thread it was agreed that we would have ample warning. Many of the revelations talk of at least some time to prepare, I mean you would have to have time to get home if you were at work, or even five minutes to close your windows and doors?

Yes, good point, there would be a warning. So, maybe your plan would work.

 

[Potato1]

Yes, good point, there would be a warning. So, maybe your plan would work.

It isnt really a plan, just a realitively introspective idea of what I would do in said situation based upon my relationship with God. however, I doubt any of us really know how we would react in such serious circumstances.

 

[Potato1]

This is not even comparable to the flood if this is really true. What way would you rather go, demons, or a flood?

Actuall, the fear of drowning is one of the most frightening situations to die for a TON of people. Depents on how the demons kill you doesnt it?

 

[Potato1]

This is not even comparable to the flood if this is really true. What way would you rather go, demons, or a flood?

Plus what a really elementary debate… which way is best to die? I’ll bet hanging on a cross or being tortured for your faith is worse than dying instantly in a car wreck or a nuclear blast. But neither is truely better or worse. God alone know how you will die.

 

[Jennifer_G]

I was being serious!! What are the ones that are left suppose to do after all the rest of the world including possibly loved ones, being swept away by demons suppose to do? How would they move on? It’s not like we would be in heaven yet. We would still have a life to live.

I’ve wondered about that, too – how people are going to rebuild, and maybe which parts of the world get hit the hardest. I would think tropical and desert areas atleast (where people have no window panes or doors on most houses due to the heat) would be at most risk. If it’s a “bitter cold night” (sounds like winter – since this is from a European source, it’s logical to assume that the southern hemisphere would most likely be summer, barring any intense cold spells). People in South America, Africa and Austrialia would also be at risk. People above the north pole (it’s dark 6 months out of the year!) might not even see it coming, and even if they did, they’d have to migrate south afterwards.

I would suppose that it would take a few years (or decades – atleast after literally picking up the pieces) for farming communities to take hold/recover, which would force neighbor to help neighbor, meaning a sense of community would come back. Many government infrastructures (and governments themselves) would also be wiped out, too.

Now, the thing I’m interested in is the Great Monarch, which sounds like it’s 50 years after the said events. (So, I guess the world would only have 53 1/2 years?)

 

[Tom317]

Actuall, the fear of drowning is one of the most frightening situations to die for a TON of people. Depents on how the demons kill you doesnt it?

I would think it is a huge grace to be left to pick up the pieces.

 

[Tom317]

I’ve wondered about that, too – how people are going to rebuild, and maybe which parts of the world get hit the hardest. I would think tropical and desert areas atleast (where people have no window panes or doors on most houses due to the heat) would be at most risk. If it’s a “bitter cold night” (sounds like winter – since this is from a European source, it’s logical to assume that the southern hemisphere would most likely be summer, barring any intense cold spells). People in South America, Africa and Austrialia would also be at risk. People above the north pole (it’s dark 6 months out of the year!) might not even see it coming, and even if they did, they’d have to migrate south afterwards.

I would suppose that it would take a few years (or decades – atleast after literally picking up the pieces) for farming communities to take hold/recover, which would force neighbor to help neighbor, meaning a sense of community would come back. Many government infrastructures (and governments themselves) would also be wiped out, too.

Now, the thing I’m interested in is the Great Monarch, which sounds like it’s 50 years after the said events. (So, I guess the world would only have 53 1/2 years?)

According to the prophecies your description is very close. People would be farming and community centered, careers and worthless jobs would be a thing of the past. The Catholic Church would be across the globe with nearly all people following.