Three Positive Signs for Obama's Re-Election Chances

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Charlotte408 said:
And what’s up with all these parroting posts???

‘Have you seen the ratings for congress’

I think just threw up in my mouth a little, you want to talk about shills for parties…

washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-2012-political-strategy-keep-attacking-unpopular-congress/2011/12/30/gIQATe7WRP_story.html

It’s so obvious. Phony and and obvious…
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What do you mean by “parroting posts”?

I have seen the ratings for Congress. I believe it is less than 10%.

I’ll try your link again, but the first time it didn’t work. Kindly articulate what you are thinking in between throwing up in your mouth (a little bit) (btw that’s a stephanie miller joke who is definetly a liberal)
 
Lionheart2012 said:
I’d love to discuss my opinion with a member of a Catholic forum. I would not like to publish my opinion with a shill for the RNC.
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Could you tell us what proportionate reasons there are that would allow a Catholic to vote for Obama in spite of his support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand? I promise not to forward your name to the RNC.
 
Charlotte408 said:
Because you ARE discussing this with a member of a catholic forum. Say what you got to say - no need to try to undermine estesbob’s opinion ((calling him a shrill as if we should just disregard what he has to say))

I’ve been posting on CAF for quite some time and I highly respect him as a poster. Your only doing yourself a disservice with cheap shots.
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I’m sure Bob will be pleased to read this.
 
estesbob said:
Could you tell us what proportionate reasons there are that would allow a Catholic to vote for Obama in spite of his support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand? I promise not to forward your name to the RNC.
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Please supply your sources.
 
The link works. Try it again, clicking is hard to get wrong twice. ((Attacking Congress happens to be Obama’s relection strategy))

Someone give Stephanie Miller a Snickers.

If you don’t know what it means to ‘parrot’ something, I’m not surprised that you would vote for Obama again.
I’m sure Bob will be pleased to read this.
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Don’t be jealous. It’s unbecoming of a man.
 
estesbob said:
Could you tell us what proportionate reasons there are that would allow a Catholic to vote for Obama in spite of his support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand?** I promise not to forward your name to the RNC.**
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Charlotte408 said:
The link works. Try it again, clicking is hard to get wrong twice. ((Attacking Congress happens to be Obama’s relection strategy))

Someone give Stephanie Miller a Snickers.

If you don’t know what it means to ‘parrot’ something, I’m not surprised that you would vote for Obama again.

Don’t be jealous. It’s unbecoming of a man.
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Thank you, Charlotte, for your condescending reply. I actually know what parroting means although your post does not reference what is being parroted.
It would be nice to hear what I am jealous of. I’d also like to know how this admits that I voted for Obama when I ask for clarification.
It is this constant use of non sequiturs that confuses me. I admit to the confusion

For a Catholic website, this one is quite unusual. I’ll give you that.
 
CMatt25 said:
I am quite surprised you say you do not know since I have addressed this before and I would have been almost certain you were a participant on such a thread.

But for your benefit I would again say that living in a democratic society of pIural beliefs I have struggled a great deal throughout my life trying to balance the rights of the unborn with the legal rights of women on this issue.

And upon much prayer and the use of my rational mind (thank you btw), it is still not simply a black and white issue to me. And thus on this one particular issue I currently separate my personal religious and faith beliefs from what is now legal under the law of the land in a democracy of plural beliefs.

At the moment I am still uneasy beyond current law to force by mandate onto others my faith beliefs as to when human life with a soul begins and when personhood rights should begin. I am not yet comfortable making it illegal for a woman to choose in cases of rape or incest or illegal for her to choose to save her life.

We have had a law of the land for nearly 40 yrs now. It allows for restrictions. I have voted to restrict minors for instance from being able to obtain a legal abortion without parental notification. Subject to a judicial “out” in cases where the minor could be threatened with harm by her parents if they were notified.

So at this time I strive for some common ground. And since it is legal with restrictions allowed, safe but rare seems like a rational place to me to start. And I turn my attention then to the many other issues I as a pro life voter must ponder, consider, and pray upon.

Frankly this one issue is not something in which I have ever singularly based my voting on. And I certainly have never said, oh this candidate is pro choice so I am going to vote for him or her. There are always plenty of other differences between the candidates which I weigh and pray upon.

Abortion is an important issue but perfection is not on earth. There will always be some satisfied with and others unhappy with a particular earthly law. And so I do not believe the focus of a democratic society of plural beliefs on abortion should be such then that it occurs at the expense and detriment of a multitude of other life issues in which I believe Jesus at least as much directly addressed.
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Every problem that humanity deals with is directly linked to the breaking of Gods’s laws.

Abortion is murder …no matter what man’s laws state.

There have been over 50 million abortions in the US … how many of those do you suppose were the result of the mother being at risk?

We should allow all that murder … in order that a few rapists should not father a child?
 
rlg94086 said:
When did I claim he was a religious mentor or instructor?
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When you said this:

Estesbob always puts his faith first and truly knows his faith. To call him a shill for the RNC is rude. How long have you been on CAF?

What do you actually know about him?
 
rlg94086 said:
When did I claim he was a religious mentor or instructor?
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Lionheart2012 said:
When you said this:

Estesbob always puts his faith first and truly knows his faith. To call him a shill for the RNC is rude. How long have you been on CAF?
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Yep. I didn’t say he was a religious mentor or instructor. Thanks for confirming that. 👍

As far as evidence of his religious faith over politics, please review his 30k+ posts. I’ve known Bob through CAF for the whole time he’s been here. How long have you known him?
 
rlg94086 said:
Yep. I didn’t say he was a religious mentor or instructor. Thanks for confirming that. 👍

As far as evidence of his religious faith over politics, please review his 30k+ posts. I’ve known Bob through CAF for the whole time he’s been here. How long have you known him?
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Not long. That’s why he is not my mentor or source for religious guidance. I prefer to go a little higher inthe food chain.
 
Lionheart2012 said:
I’d love to discuss my opinion with a member of a Catholic forum. I would not like to publish my opinion with a shill for the RNC.
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Lionheart2012 said:
Not long. That’s why he is not my mentor or source for religious guidance. I prefer to go a little higher inthe food chain.
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:rotfl:

You are a newb. You said you would love to discuss your opinion with “a member of CAF.” We are all members of CAF. I have no idea what you mean by “higher in the food chain.” 😛

I hope you stick around. We are always in need of comedy relief. 👍
 
qui_est_ce said:
Sounds to me like you’re the one trying to write the Republicans story.

You have no idea what’s in people’s hearts. You just broadbrush us as bigots.

How very unbigoted of you.
So if Jesse Jackson complains the blacks are downtrodden by whites, that’s ok. Just white people are not allowed to do it.

As a percentage of their race:

Who is most affected by the “anti-poverty” programs in this country?

Who has the most children out of wedlock?

The homeless mothers shelter where I volunteer has one white or Latino mother for every ten African-American women.

You can’t fix a problem running away from the facts.
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Broad-brushing and insulting people with negative stereotypes is not my style - but I’ll refrain from getting heated, demographics will eventually teach manners to those who lack it…
 
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