To a Roman Catholic are Protestants good Christians?

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If you think the Tridentine Mass is the one true Mass that everyone should/must attend to be a true Catholic, that Protestants are not really Christians and that the Earth should be ruled by a Papal Monarchy with an Iron sceptre to force salvation on everyone, then you’ll feel right at home.
Wow! Why do you generalize like this while insulting people? There are many varied types of people on this forum–Catholic Traditionalists, conservatives, liberals, protestant fundamentalists, reformed, etc.,etc., etc…

Some times the discussions become heated. There is no need for you to be mean-spirited. 😦
 
Most Catholics are very warm and inviting and tolerant of different beliefs and don’t ridicule you for having an opinion on something that might not coincide with the CC, as long as the individual is open-minded to the Truth.
There are many warm, loving and knowledgeable Catholics here also. You must remember that sometimes people become bold and arrogant due to the anonymity of the internet.
 
Jedinovice is right too. Catholics here are very much NOT like the typical Catholic you’d run into.

I suppose that since so many “typical” Catholics do not know their faith, and do not partake of the sacraments, you might be right … many Catholics on this site are not like the “typical” Catholic… thank God

The Catholics here make up about an eighth of the entire Catholic population.

and you can the other 7/8ths … or whatever the real figure is. Nope, I take that back… the other 7/8ths need to be cathecized, so you can not have them.

Most Catholics are very warm and inviting and tolerant of different beliefs

perhaps “luke warm” is the adjective… and we know what will happen to the luke warm

and don’t ridicule you for having an opinion on something that might not coincide with the CC, as long as the individual is open-minded to the Truth.

Oh that is great…just great… you can have an opinion or disagree with the Catholic Church (where the fullness of Truth is found)… as long as you are open minded to the Truth. Sounds like something John Kerry would say…

At least that’s how it is where I live. I love my Catholic Church in my small town!!! 😃
If you personally have been offended by another poster here who objected to your personal opinions… that is one thing.

It is when you give that opinion and imply or even state outright that the CC agrees with you… well, that is when you will see a post that says… YOU ARE WRONG.
 
It’s really quite simple. It is both true that 1) outside the Catholic Church no one is saved, and 2) Non-Catholic can be saved. How does this work, you ask?

At the moment of death, every man, woman, and child of reason who has sincerely sought God and pursued truth and salvation receives extraordinary grace to enter into the Catholic Church. Like any one of us, that grace can be accepted or rejected. Accepted, as a pseudo baptism-of-desire; rejected, as a final turning away from Truth. Therein, non-Catholics can still be saved, and anyone saved is a member of the Catholic Church.

This pure unadulterated speculation on my part, but it seems to resolve the contradiction.
 
There are many warm, loving and knowledgeable Catholics here also. You must remember that sometimes people become bold and arrogant due to the anonymity of the internet.
Oh, I know. I can be “guilt as charged” of that myself if I really get into the conversation. :o
It just seems like lately those “bold and arrogant” posters seem to be the only ones posting. 😦
 
If you personally have been offended by another poster here who objected to your personal opinions… that is one thing.

It is when you give that opinion and imply or even state outright that the CC agrees with you… well, that is when you will see a post that says… YOU ARE WRONG.
Just like MrS . . . :rolleyes:
 
thanks…

I must be striking a nerve when I respond to those posts of yours that are not correct.
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Not really. I just feel like a tape recorder most days and I must just “crack” when I respond to you. :o
Please don’t take it personally. It’s been a rough week. Maybe I should take a break from the forums and “regroup”. 😉
 
I as well. So why were we bickering??

Oh well, silliness I guess.

Peace to you, Caesar.

I think the important issue here is not the dogma itself. That cannot be changed. But what constitutes being “outside of the Church” specifically.
Exactly.

We are bickering because Caesar (and some others) refuse to acknowledge what the CCC says about it, even though it’s been shown to him. He takes one phrase, and says thats all I need to know. The CCC elaborates on the phase and explains fully it’s meaning.

The CCC fully explains that there is a chance for salvation outside of the church. I guess he thinks the Church puts out bad Catechism. :rolleyes:
 
Can’t resist on this one and in reference to the above…

All Catholic discussion forums are dominated by (fairly) radical traditionalists who think the Church will be cured off all ills by returning to the 16th Century. If you think the Tridentine Mass is the one true Mass that everyone should/must attend to be a true Catholic, that Protestants are not really Christians and that the Earth should be ruled by a Papal Monarchy with an Iron sceptre to force salvation on everyone, then you’ll feel right at home.

If you don’t think like that, take my advice and don’t hang around Catholic discussion forums much. I read here on occasion out of ‘road crash fascination’ but I spend more time on the lay community I am a member of.

I swear, I’ve never found a forum that did not boil down to being a ‘more catholic than thou’ club. Thus, you’re not going to find much ecumenical spirit online. You will, however, find it in real life.

Just so yer briefed!! 🙂
Good post!! 👍
 
Exactly.

We are bickering because Caesar (and some others) refuse to acknowledge what the CCC says about it, even though it’s been shown to him. He takes one phrase, and says thats all I need to know. The CCC elaborates on the phase and explains fully it’s meaning.

The CCC fully explains that there is a chance for salvation outside of the church. I guess he thinks the Church puts out bad Catechism. :rolleyes:
Thank you 🙂 for correcting that because as a Protestant, I was a getting an angry :mad: view of the CC on that dogma alone. 😉
 
mikew262The CCC fully explains that there is a chance for salvation outside of the church. I guess he thinks the Church puts out bad Catechism [/QUOTE said:
I never said it was bad, I said that it isnt infallible.

I like how the Catechism of St. Pius X explains the Dogma of No Salvation Outside the Church:

“No one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church”

and later,

“If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God’s will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation”

Much better and clearer explanation then the 1984 Catechism gives (because of it’s unfortunate ambiguity in many areas).

Now, St. Pius X was a Pope who could put the liberals and the heretics (and the liberal heretics ;)) in their place 😃
Thank you 🙂 for correcting that because as a Protestant, I was a getting an angry :mad: view of the CC on that dogma alone. 😉
Well no offense, but many parts of the Catholic faith make protestants angry and if Catholics start to care about this then we have a problem.
 
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