Transgender friends

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I would try to use the preferred pro noun but if it’s someone I have known for years I bet I would slip up. At my age they would be a late transitioner who probably wouldn’t “pass” which I think would also make it tricky to remember.

I do know someone who transitioned but haven’t actually met face to face in years. This person is a 6’3 biological male who I think will really struggle to pass and I think it would be an awkward trying to treat him like a woman to be honest.
 
Yes, it’s common courtesy. Whatever your private thoughts about it, all people deserve to be treated with respect and it’s rude to deny someone the right to be called what they feel comfortable with.
 
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I would call them by their preferred names to avoid charges of discrimination or harassment. I’d be respectful but I would not make them a friend. I couldn’t support their delusions.
 
You know how God made them? You have some magical true sight power that allows you to see thier chromosome and hormone levels?

You know when you were forming in the womb we all biologically started female and it’s a careful hormone & dna balance that orders your young overies is to head south and become testicles.

Are you aware if anything goes wrong you can end up looking like one gender but your chromosome says you are another right?

I find it best to allow individuals to take care of themselves and answer to God. If they claim to be whatever gender and act the part who am I to judge?
 
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At the same time you can’t make other people see you a certain way. I’d like people to see me as a stunning 18 year old supermodel, the reality is I’m short, plump and 30. However I “identify” on the inside it’s not going to convince a model agency.
 
I know a transgender man. I call him by his male name. He doesn’t care. I like him and pray for him, poor guy is a troubled soul.
 
So? That has 0 baring on your reaction too their choice. It’s not your place.
 
That’s ridiculous. So you’re only friends with saints then since you can’t be friends with sinners. Mmhmmm.
 
That’s kinda one issue. Things have gotten muddled up. No one is using the same term in the same way.

Is a transman a person who presents themselves looking womanly, or a person who presents themselves looking manly? I’ve seen both definitions used here and elsewhere. Transgender is an umbrella term, and unless you know what underlies it, you don’t know.

As is pointed out, there are develpmental, genetic, hormonal, brain hardware and brain software issues.

Do what you want in addressing these people. Remember, there are consequences, maybe eternal consequences for all actions. That includes the trans person, and the people interacting with them.
 
On a practical level it surely depends on how close you are to the person. The person in my case isn’t someone I am that close to and it wouldn’t be my place to tell him his expectations for transition are unrealistic.
 
I agree with this. I would do it to be both polite, and to try to keep lines of communication open. These are children of God.

that said, one of the things that drives me nuts is how some terms are just warped. I.E. if a transgender person wants to be referred to as ‘She’ I would do that. But when I’m told I have to refer to them as ‘They’ or some of the other terms, I just can’t keep up, and it sounds akward as all get out.
 
That’s ridiculous. So you’re only friends with saints then since you can’t be friends with sinners. Mmhmmm.
I didn’t say “I can’t be friends with sinners.” My point is that I could not be friends with transgenders because they wouldn’t like me. They would find me offensive. They wouldn’t like the fact that I would not support their delusion. Therefore, I could not be friends with a transgender.
 
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Being rude by cultural standards takes a back seat to Catholic morality.
 
Just bare in mind that most of the time it isn’t your place to say anything because you can’t know why or how they do things.
 
I can’t see how calling someone Jane or John has any adverse influence on Catholic morality. I suspect if the Pope met a transgender person, he would call them the name they are known by.
 
I completely understand the worry here though.

Like, one time I was at my Uni and this guy wanted me to call him René. I’m not going to call a boy by a girl’s name! That name was created during the Big Bang as a girl’s name. It’s simple science. He kept saying he was French or something… But whatever. I called him Ronny instead. Who cares what that freak wants.
 
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