Transgender kids: Painful quest to be who they are

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Again: are we absolutely sure there isn’t some possible way that we can give southern California back to Mexico???

It’s gotta be something in the water out there…it apparently produces idiots.
 
Actually, I think the recommendation now is to wait until the child is old enough to determine what he/she wants to be.
That doesn’t work with a child’s study-habits, bedtime, diet, religion, or appropriate manner and behavior. But sure, it’ll work with gender if we let them determine it themselves…
 
I am SO having nightmares tonight, swizzle stick - thank you. :eek:

And this is the saddest article I’ve read in a long time. That poor boy, has NO male dynamic in the home. All he see’s is two women loving eachother, so he probably is just feeling like the ‘odd one out’, being a male. He probably just wants to ‘fit in’. How sad…how very sad.
Sorry. 😊 My purpose in posting those pics was not to scare anyone, but to point out that sometimes someone is just confused and has a mental health issue, not a need to try to change himself or herself into someone he or she is not. One can have surgery until the cows come home, make alterations, mutilate, etc., but at the end of the day, one is still male or female. The man in the pictures calls himself Cat Man and he may think he is a cat man who needs to climb trees and eat raw meat, but at the end of the day, he is still a man who has mutilated himself and has some unusual hobbies and dietary preferences.

I think the little boy, Thomas, was just confused and those who love him most should have helped him find his way through the confusion. Instead, they’ve only added to it and further muddled his life. It is a tragic situation.
 
Again: are we absolutely sure there isn’t some possible way that we can give southern California back to Mexico???

It’s gotta be something in the water out there…it apparently produces idiots.
I’d say it might actually be something in the water and it is everywhere. I’m thinking hormones from birth control pills, maybe? What else could account for such widespread issues?
 
Again: are we absolutely sure there isn’t some possible way that we can give southern California back to Mexico???

It’s gotta be something in the water out there…it apparently produces idiots.
Berkeley, along with the rest of the greater San Francisco Bay Area, is actually considered part of “Northern California.”
 
Ummm, most people period come from opposite gender parents, since they are the overwhelming majority of parents.
Actually, ALL people, not most, come from opposite gender parents. It still takes a man and a woman to make a baby even if it is done artificially.
 
I’d say it might actually be something in the water and it is everywhere. I’m thinking hormones from birth control pills, maybe? What else could account for such widespread issues?
Artificial food colorings? Chemical additives? Popular media?
Berkeley, along with the rest of the greater San Francisco Bay Area, is actually considered part of “Northern California.”
Then give the whole damn thing back to Mexico, I don’t care! There has got to be some way we can rid the country of these imbeciles! Whatever disease they have, it seems to be contagious!
 
Again: are we absolutely sure there isn’t some possible way that we can give southern California back to Mexico???

It’s gotta be something in the water out there…it apparently produces idiots.
Actually Berkeley is up North, Southern California (and the valley) is where all our conservatives are.

@ Wolesley- hey hey hey don’t leave us hanging! There are a lot of really decent people out here, trying to stay above water! 🙂
 
Actually Berkeley is up North, Southern California (and the valley) is where all our conservatives are.

@ Wolesley- hey hey hey don’t leave us hanging! There are a lot of really decent people out here, trying to stay above water! 🙂
I feel for you, truly, truly I do. We had some California guys in the Air Force, and they were decent enough guys; but even back then, they fully admitted that their home state was, in the words of the one guy from L.A., “just like a bowl of cereal: you take out the fruits and the nuts, and all you got left are the flakes”.

Maybe all you normal folks out there should band together, form a militia, and confine the loonytoons to reservations in the Mojave Desert, or something.
 
Maybe all you normal folks out there should band together, form a militia, and confine the loonytoons to reservations in the Mojave Desert, or something.
Well, NorCal has it figured out. Use San Francisco to attract them into one place and then use Oakland as a deterrent against crossing back to the other side of the bay!
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That doesn’t work with a child’s study-habits, bedtime, diet, religion, or appropriate manner and behavior. But sure, it’ll work with gender if we let them determine it themselves…
They give hormones to these kids to block puberty until they are at an age where they can make a choice for themselves maturity-wise. I once saw a show about a child born with both genitalia whose parents decided at birth to remove the penis and later, the person identified as a male without even knowing about it. Very sad.
 
They give hormones to these kids to block puberty until they are at an age where they can make a choice for themselves maturity-wise. I once saw a show about a child born with both genitalia whose parents decided at birth to remove the penis and later, the person identified as a male without even knowing about it. Very sad.
One of our foster child is on “hormone blocker” therapy, she started puberty at two years old after being sexual abused since birth. Precocious puberty causes a whole host of issues besides just the sexual ones.
 
I think you’re confusing the data that most homosexual predators were victims as children, and grow up to repeat what happened to them, with the theory that homosexual men failed to bond with their father and are searching for a father/son relation ship and confuse it with a male sexual relationship.

I don’t know if the second one is a myth or not. But there certainly is a lot of pressure and ridicule for anyone who dare look at it. Including your ridicule of Mr. Bachmann just now.

What I took from your ridicule is that only a wacko would dare treat homosexuality as a curable psychological disease? Yet, someone just wrote (was it you?) that we don’t know enough about the science of this to make any judgements. Inconsistent logic.
The second theory is a variant of Freud’s theory that homosexual men have a developmental arrest, since they have never completed the formation of their male personality because they have not successfully negotiated their identification with the aggressor: that is, their father, and his normative and moral values. IOW, these men are still sexually attracted and attached to their mother. This theory is not based on sexual abuse or neglect by either parent, which is the notion Sam was referring to. My reference to Dr. Bachmann was due to his well-known conservative views regarding homosexuals and intended more as light-hearted humor than mean-spirited ridicule. I think your extrapolation, while understandable, goes a little too far. My other comment referred to the effects–sexual and otherwise–on children who are raised by gay couples, which is an issue related to the origins of homosexuality but unrelated to the sexual abuse hypothesis. Just because we don’t have all the answers regarding the development of homosexual preference doesn’t mean we can’t rule out certain ideas which are seemingly incorrect.
 
One of our foster child is on “hormone blocker” therapy, she started puberty at two years old after being sexual abused since birth. Precocious puberty causes a whole host of issues besides just the sexual ones.
Kudos to you for taking in foster kids! I stand in awe of the GOOD foster parents who are willing to do such a thing. The world needs good foster parents so badly.
 
Within the scientific and social science literature, there is a myriad of research claiming to have identified one of the causes for homosexuality. The hypotheses that sexual abuse itself can be the cause of homosexuality in adult life has been found and research that supports this conclusion are as follows Macmillan, 1997; Tomeo et al, 2001; Holmes et al, 1998; Doll et al, 1992; Soukup, 1995; Shrier et al, 1988; Dickson; and Finkelhor, 1984.

Sorry if your beliefs are not backed by facts.

I also have worked with children in the foster care system for 10 years and have had foster children for the last 4 years. One of the most common traits of boys that have been abused by men is that they grow up to be both homosexual and abusers themselves. These teenagers are the most difficult to place in any kind of “normal” family setting.
You’re right about the diverse theories concerning the causes of homosexuality. However, the vast majority of psychologists and psychiatrists today do not agree with the sexual abuse notion, although, as you point out, there are a few holdouts. Science, like the law, is based on a preponderance of evidence rather than a handful of isolated studies, whose methodology may at times be questionable. Your own experience as a foster parent may have led your thinking on the issue in this direction, but most homosexuals on record have not suffered sexual abuse. The other theory I spoke about in my last post–a Freudian variant, in which a father-son bond is missing–is somewhat more popular, but also not consistent with most current thinking.
 
Actually, ALL people, not most, come from opposite gender parents. It still takes a man and a woman to make a baby even if it is done artificially.
Yeah, not sure why I missed the obviousness of this statement. Probably should have said “most are raised.”

The fact we are even having this discussions is rather a disgusting commentary on our society, sadly.
 
Yeah, not sure why I missed the obviousness of this statement. Probably should have said “most are raised.”

The fact we are even having this discussions is rather a disgusting commentary on our society, sadly.
It’s okay.

And, I agree about the commentary on our society.
 
You’re right about the diverse theories concerning the causes of homosexuality. However, the vast majority of psychologists and psychiatrists today do not agree with the sexual abuse notion, although, as you point out, there are a few holdouts. .
Source?
 
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