Trayvon Martin: Before the world heard the cries

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Rich_Olszewski said:
Potential killers break into your house? Sure, use your gun. Iā€™m not complaining about that.
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So, you are only allowed to be safe in your house?

ā€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happinessā€¦as long as you are in your house.ā€

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Scott_Lafrance said:
State prosecutors are notorious for overreaching to satisfy pressure from certain groups. Have we forgotten the Duke LaCrosse rape caseā€¦that involved many of the same aggitators?
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No, I havenā€™t forgotten that case. As I recall, some people ate crow very publicly, the charges were dropped and nobody was hunted down in the streets.
 
maryjk said:
Me too. That is why I have a concealed carry permit.
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Iā€™ve had one for 5+ years now, and carried without for longer than that :getholy:. Iā€™ve never even had the inclination of having to use it, and hope that I never do.
 
Calgar said:
What about a car parking garage? While youā€™ve got infant children with you?
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Are the public garages in your town so dangerous? Why would you think that malefactors are out to get your children? Are there that many child kidnappings there? If so, you might be justified IMO.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
I generally behave in a manner that precludes my need to be anywhere around a courtroom.
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Ya, I canā€™t remember the last time I was in court. I havenā€™t even had a traffic violation in at least 15 years.

Oh wait, I was in court on a jury summons. I donā€™t think that counts though šŸ˜‰
 
vz71 said:
True.
But of all the people I would expect to hear it from, the mother would be the first.
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Thatā€™s fine, as long as one is a mother, one has ā€œchildren,ā€ even if the ā€œchildā€ has children of her/his own and is over 60 years old! But as for the courts, yes, ā€œminor childā€ is different from ā€œjuvenileā€ or ā€œminor.ā€

And the media should not have been repeating that this was a child, it gives the wrong impression. Imagine if a 45 year old was killed and his mama called him a ā€œchild.ā€ Same principle but he does not legally qualify for that label.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Iā€™ve had one for 5+ years now, and carried without for longer than that :getholy:. Iā€™ve never even had the inclination of having to use it, and hope that I never do.
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Then why carry one? Iā€™ve owned shotguns for decades, never had the inclination to use it on another human being, and hope that I never do. Ducks and skeet targets are another story, however.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Are the public garages in your town so dangerous?
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The one I was in was dangerous that night. And thatā€™s all that matters, Rich.

We might carry concealed for 40 years or more with never an incident, but if there comes even one time that you need it youā€™ll be glad you had it.
 
seekerz said:
No, I havenā€™t forgotten that case. As I recall, some people ate crow very publicly, the charges were dropped and nobody was hunted down in the streets.
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Were the New Black Panthers there offering up a $1 million reward with Malik Shabazz telling black folks that they need to get ā€œsuited up, booted up, and armed upā€?

"Weā€™re going in soon within a few weeks and weā€™re going to train the community and community patrols and community self-defense in Sanford. Weā€™re not going to allow some Neo-Nazis to drive around and intimidate black people and we know what we know and are trained how weā€™re trained.

We have to raise up an army in Florida of black me[n] and black people who will patrol and defend the community and we have to have a ministry of defense in Florida.

You touch us with what we are building for black people and you got a hell of a price to pay. You donā€™t build a movement ā€“ if you donā€™t develop a movement and defend what you develop with a movement then you gonna be out of luck. So we gotta do both my sista. We got to fight on all fronts. We got to build and in self-defense we got to kill."

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Cider said:
Ya, I canā€™t remember the last time I was in court. I havenā€™t even had a traffic violation in at least 15 years.

Oh wait, I was in court on a jury summons. I donā€™t think that counts though šŸ˜‰
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If you want to get out of jury duty, just take one class in legal studies at a community college. The second a lawyer knows that you have at least the foggiest notion of what you are supposed to do as a jurist, they will cut you loose.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Then why carry one? Iā€™ve owned shotguns for decades, never had the inclination to use it on another human being, and hope that I never do.
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I wish I could say the same. šŸ˜¦
Rich_Olszewski said:
Ducks and skeet targets are another story, however.
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Straight up, although my 11 year old son schools me in skeet ever time we go to the range. I get him on trap, but he is a whiz with a single shot 20 gauge.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
If you want to get out of jury duty, just take one class in legal studies at a community college. The second a lawyer knows that you have at least the foggiest notion of what you are supposed to do as a jurist, they will cut you loose.
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That wasnā€™t asked in my case. And they canā€™t dismiss everyone. So even if I have had a class, if it isnā€™t asked, and others are dismissed, I still may have to serve.
 
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