How did the child “look like a criminal?”Criminals typically set the standard.
ORLANDO - A witness we haven’t heard from before paints a much different picture than we’ve seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.
Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.
What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.
The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.
myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012It shows more now about why police believed that night that George Zimmerman shouldn’t have gone to jail.
I don’t know, sounds like a question Zimmerman needs to answer. I’m sure the FBI will ask.What was Martin doing that made him look like a criminal?
Why bring race into it? Rather racist thing to do IMO.Criminals have a uniform? A skin color.
I guess minority kids like Martin wouldn’t have to worry about being followed if they didn’t wear hoddies, and didn’t put their hands in their pockets, and spoke english well, and were polite, and pulled their pants up, and, and, and.
Don’t want to “look like a criminal” you know.
If you can’t even recognize suspicious behavior/clothing you will never be able to give an identity.When I was in training for my teller job they tested us on being able to confirm identities. While we where doing our normal class routine the instructor had one of the office guys quickly walk into the classroom grab something off the desk and walk right back out. We where then asked to identify him to the best of our abilities.
Suspicious behavior does play a part in order to avoid trouble, but confirming the identity of someone is far more important. What good does it do to identify suspicious behavior if you can’t tell someone who it was.
Just like Ringil, gotta make it about skin color too?How did the child “look like a criminal?”
“Wrong” color of skin?
“Wrong” way of walking?
In the “wrong” neighborhood?
The teen did nothing to justify being viewed as suspicious.
The suspicions were in the mind of Zimmerman -
not in the actions, clothes, or color of young Martin.
Recognizing suspicious behavior is only ONE part of it. Recognizing that well do you NO good if you don’t know what the person looked like. So you saw a person acting suspicious. Now describe what they looked like so the police can identify them. Hair color and style, eye color, height, race, sex, clothing, tattoos, speech, weight as much detail as possible needs to be given. If you can’t give that information than you won’t be able to do anything to stop what ever might happen.If you can’t even recognize suspicious behavior/clothing you will never be able to give an identity.
Here is how I recall it going, roughly: the police and the DA investigated and concluded that it was an act of self-defense and didn’t make an arrest. The rest of us were left scratching our heads at that decision, but that was the official decision.So what if there’s a mob? Are you suggesting 'if you can’t beat 'em, join ‘em?’ This isn’t Lord of the Flies Island, it’s 21st Century America. We have a duty to seek out and enforce justice.
We agree 100 percent.Recognizing suspicious behavior is only ONE part of it. Recognizing that well do you NO good if you don’t know what the person looked like. So you saw a person acting suspicious. Now describe what they looked like so the police can identify them. Hair color and style, eye color, height, race, sex, clothing, tattoos, speech, weight as much detail as possible needs to be given. If you can’t give that information than you won’t be able to do anything to stop what ever might happen.
Considering the fact your the one that was making a big deal about how it was all about behavior I fail to see how we agree.We agree 100 percent.
No, this is a pretty basic handgun tactic to draw and fire from the hip in such a situation. It doesn’t require Martin to have eased up on Zimmerman, only that Martin was focused on beating Zimmerman in the head and ignored what Zimmerman was doing with his hands.Very suspicous that Zimmerman was bleeding and had injuries consitent with a beating. But if he was getting beat, how did have time to pull his gun unless Trayvon relented? We will have to wait and see what went down.
Yes, it’s a hate crime to some and an opportunity to go after guns to others.quote from the Associated Press ( masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/stand_your_ground_law_at_cente.html ):
In this case, however, police have said they are confident they did the right thing by not charging 28-year-old George Zimmerman, a white Hispanic.
The shooting’s racial overtones have sparked a national outcry and debate over whether the shooting was warranted.
Folks, can someone explain to me why do they call Zimmerman a white Hispanic? Are they desperately trying to make the story into one of White-on-Black violence, because a story of Hispanic-on-Black violence doesn’t sell so well?
If you had someone coming after you with no idea of what their intentions toward you where, you now that you would fight this person with everything you had in you.Very suspicous that Zimmerman was bleeding and had injuries consitent with a beating. But if he was getting beat, how did have time to pull his gun unless Trayvon relented? We will have to wait and see what went down.
I wasn’t trying to make anything about behavior. I’m trying to keep the emotional, toss Zimmerman to the sharks crowd from controlling the discussion.Considering the fact your the one that was making a big deal about how it was all about behavior I fail to see how we agree.
Is he going to call and offer condolescences to the family of every victim of violence in the country? He seems to only go public with stuff when it score political points.With Conservatives regarding Obama it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. The President can’t say anything- even offer sympathy to grieving parents without being attacked.
I am willing to put $500 on anyone here who is willing to wager that this incident is turned into a gun control issue. Considering the fed is already involved when this doesn’t involve a federal employee, didn’t cross state lines, or any other reason why the feds would need to be involved.Yes, it’s a hate crime to some and an opportunity to go after guns to others.
It already has been.I am willing to put $500 on anyone here who is willing to wager that this incident is turned into a gun control issue. Considering the fed is already involved when this doesn’t involve a federal employee, didn’t cross state lines, or any other reason why the feds would need to be involved.
The records will prove he called her. But if this ever makes it to a jury, it is up to them whether or not to believe her statement.Cell phone records and girl’s statement have been published.