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“could mean.”Agree.
“could mean.”Agree.
As far as I am concerned, this case is a microcosmic look at the real state of race relations in this country.It is a “puzzlement” to me why this has become so very important.![]()
If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.Yep. “Could mean” as I said.“could mean.”
But you “accused NO ONE”. Got it.Zimmerman did kill a child.
No one can argue with that fact.
Zimmerman admits it as he should.
He called it self defense - yet nevertheless
he killed a child. Who can dispute that?
Of course.2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury. He becomes guilty:
2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one’s own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor
Code:If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.
I think in some ways you are right. But it is also us (majority) who are not racist responding to the fringe on either side.As far as I am concerned, this case is a microcosmic look at the real state of race relations in this country.
Zimmerman killed a boy.But you “accused NO ONE”. Got it.
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.” - Samuel AdamsI think in some ways you are right. But it is also us (majoirty) who are not racist responding to the fringe on either side.
Like politics- the fringe is driving the conversation.
Yep.Forget race and forget Trayvon Martin’s age. We have a situation where a man in his prime gives himself permission over a 9-11 dispatcher’s instructions to chase someone smaller than he is, someone was who had not done anything to him, someone he had not witnessed doing anything illegal, and in the end shot his quarry dead, and then called it self-defense?
So someone could find me suspicious, chase me, try to detain me, and if I resisted or tried to defend myself, they could shoot me dead on the spot? If there were no direct witnesses of the shooting, they could claim self-defense and not even be arrested? Really? Take out race, take out age, take out gender…In most places, there would be demonstrations in the street if a police officer did that to any private citizen!!
I don’t know about anybody else, but if that’s the way things can be done in Florida, I’m not in any hurry to visit there, because the vigilantes will have been given carte blanche by the laws of the state of Florida. I will consider myself warned. If any stranger looks like they’re on drugs, looks like they could commit a crime, I’ll know that the good citizens of Florida have permission to chase 'em, grab 'em, and if they try to resist, shoot 'em. Have no fear Crime-Stoppers…it’s self defense!
I tell you what: It will be one way to end this whole “Spring Break” madness they have had to put up with every year!![]()
Zimmerman “could have” discontinued the following which others have stated. That “could have” is unacceptable to you. Remember when you said “I DON"T BELIEVE IT”. Your “could mean” is wholeheartedly embraced because it fits your view of events.Yep. “Could mean” as I said.
I will never leave CAF once this medium reaches the technological level where I can get beer from this website.. One was white and the other black. So after they got into it they were shown at a local tavern enjoying a beverage together laughing and enjoying themselves.
We should all be able to do that, but this medium doesn’t lend itself to polite exchange.
You accused him of killing a “child” , you know that. Your throwing in the “question remains” aspect of it now which was the furthest thing from any of your original points.Zimmerman killed a boy.
Zimmerman said so without denial.
I agree with Zimmerman in this.
Question remains as to whether “self defense” applies.
There is no statement to the police by anyone that says that Zimmerman chased Martin or tried to detain him.Forget race and forget Trayvon Martin’s age. We have a situation where a man in his prime gives himself permission over a 9-11 dispatcher’s instructions to chase someone smaller than he is, someone was who had not done anything to him, someone he had not witnessed doing anything illegal, and in the end shot his quarry dead, and then called it self-defense?
So someone could find me suspicious, chase me, try to detain me, and if I resisted or tried to defend myself, they could shoot me dead on the spot? If there were no direct witnesses of the shooting, they could claim self-defense and not even be arrested? Really? Take out race, take out age, take out gender…In most places, there would be demonstrations in the street if a police officer did that to any private citizen!!
I don’t know about anybody else, but if that’s the way things can be done in Florida, I’m not in any hurry to visit there, because the vigilantes will have been given carte blanche by the laws of the state of Florida. I will consider myself warned. If any stranger looks like they’re on drugs, looks like they could commit a crime, I’ll know that the good citizens of Florida have permission to chase 'em, grab 'em, and if they try to resist, shoot 'em. Have no fear Crime-Stoppers…it’s self defense!
I tell you what: It will be one way to end this whole “Spring Break” madness they have had to put up with every year!![]()
Nope.You accused him of killing a “child” , you know that. Your throwing in the “question remains” aspect of it now which was the furthest thing from any of your original points.
Yes, I agree. However my spelling and typing is poor when I’m sober so. . . .I will never leave CAF once this medium reaches the technological level where I can get beer from this website.
*edit: though my grammar, spelling and logic may deteriorate with time.
No. You accuse Zimmerman because of your previous posts. Read them from beginning to end. You’ve come around to new evidence. Good.Nope.
I accuse him as Zimmerman accuses himself.
It is what happened.
“Question remains” is reason for the NEW investigations.
I welcome the new investigations. Everyone should.
Sanford PD has a recent and unsavory history.