Trayvon Martin: 'Shoot first' law under scrutiny

[catharina]

Not accurate. He said “okay” two seconds later. We have not tracking of whether he complied our not. I have listened to the tape and do not think he did comply. You may disagree, but neither of us know.

Agree.
We hear him agree but that doesn’t mean he complied.

Here is a man way out of his depth,
tracking a “suspicious” boy and also
following the boy as he should NOT have done.

Why should anyone believe his agreement?

 

[pnewton]

So the witnesses that saw him returning to his truck are lying?

Witnesses are not time stamped and synced. As to whether anyone is less than accurate as a witness, that is up to a jury when this case finally reaches a jury.

FYI - Here is a summary of witnesses from CNN. Note that by the nature of the accounts, there must be some inaccuracies.

cnn.com/2012/03/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting-witnesses/index.html

 

[SamH]

It’s been explained already.
US Census allows for choices: ethnicity,
then if desired for race - white, black, asian, other, etc…

What about question 5 US Census form?

 

[SamH]

Witnesses are not time stamped and synced. As to whether anyone is less than accurate as a witness, that is up to a jury when this case finally reaches a jury.

So it could be 5 seconds?

 

[SamH]

Agree.
We hear him agree but that doesn’t mean he complied.

Here is a man way out of his depth,
tracking a “suspicious” boy and also
following the boy as he should NOT have done.

Why should anyone believe his agreement?

Because it was witnessed?

 

[catharina]

What about question 5 US Census form?

Done, sam.

 

[SamH]

Done, sam.

 

[catharina]

Because it was witnessed?

Done.

 

[SamH]

Agree.
We hear him agree but that doesn’t mean he complied.

Here is a man way out of his depth,
tracking a “suspicious” boy and also
following the boy as he should NOT have done.

Why should anyone believe his agreement?

Why would he lie? So far no one has presented anything to indicate anything happened other than what he says happened with much of his story collaborated with eye witnesses.

He watched a man that can obviously ran many times faster than he disappear. What did he have to gain by wondering around aimlessly in the rain?

 

[SamH]

done.

 

[pnewton]

So it could be 5 seconds?

Of course it could be. It could also be two seconds. It could be more on the magnitude of minutes. Remember all the preaching earlier about not judging? It works both ways.

 

[SamH]

Of course it could be. It could also be two seconds. It could be more on the magnitude of minutes. Remember all the preaching earlier about not judging? It works both ways.

Actually that conflicts with the time of the calls made by neighors when Zimmerman was assaulted at his truck.

 

[pnewton]

Why would he lie?

It wouldn’t have to be a lie. “Okay” also could mean an acknowledge meant that he heard. Zimmerman did not say he was going back to the truck. He just said “okay”.

 

[ringil]

OK guys,

So since we are going to give attention to this menacing New Black Panther Party, a fringe and racist group, I thought I’d draw some attention to the other side of the coin. Race baiting anyone. . . . .

buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/white-supremacists-react-to-trayvon-martin

Or do these guys not count? Stormfront, the largest white supremist site on the web has hundreds of thousands of members.

Actually reading through the posts I’m shocked by similarities there and SOME of what I am reading in this thread.

 

[Bubba_Switzler]

The mob has taken the next logical step in their activisim:

North Miami Beach police said surveillance video shows dozens of high school students demonstrating in the Trayvon Martin case Friday ransacking a Walgreens store.

local10.com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html

 

[pnewton]

Actually that conflicts with the time of the calls made by neighors when Zimmerman was assaulted at his truck.

No, he was still on the phone with the dispatcher giving out his number instead of arranging a meeting one minute and thirty-five seconds after he said “okay.”

Here is a transcript link again:

phoebe53.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/zimmerman-911-call-transcript-trayvon-martin/

 

[catharina]

It wouldn’t have to be a lie. **“Okay” also could mean an acknowledge meant that he heard. ** Zimmerman did not say he was going back to the truck. He just said “okay”.

Agree.

 

[catharina]

No, he was still on the phone with the dispatcher giving out his number instead of arranging a meeting one minute and thirty-five seconds after he said “okay.”

Here is a transcript link again:

phoebe53.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/zimmerman-911-call-transcript-trayvon-martin/

Yes - very helpful.

 

[johnnyjones]

No offense, but I’d rather listen to the Cardinal than to you.
As for accusations? I’ve accused NO ONE. I quoted a Cardinal of the Church.

If a common sense person where to read all yours posts, it would be hard not to come away witht the belief that you haven’t accused Zimmerman of killing a “child.”

 

[catharina]

If a common sense person where to read all yours posts, it would be hard not to come away witht the belief that you haven’t accused Zimmerman of killing a “child.”

Zimmerman did kill a child.
No one can argue with that fact.
Zimmerman admits it as he should.
He called it self defense - yet nevertheless
he killed a child. Who can dispute that?