Trinity and contradictions in the Holy Bible

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Friend, let me explain it briefly

You see, God is One, bear in mind it is dogmatically defined that The Trinity is to be understood “neither dividing Substance nor confounding Persons” so were as God is one substance, he is Three Persons, let me explain, there is one “substance” if you will, of humanity, but several humans, now, we are not one because our nature is limited, but God, His Essence is Absolute, so the Three Persons, while being, if you will, Particulars of Divine Nature, are One and the Same Being, but not the same Person

Also, bear in mind God the Son (Jesus Christ) is both God and Man, that is, his Person subsist in both a human and a Divine Nature, so it makes no contradiction with this verses

Also, remember, the Church wrote (since the Apostles were part of the Church) compiled, edited and canonized the Bible, it’s the Church’s book, always stick to what the Church and the Fathers say about interpreting Scripture.

Also, i recommend you do not use the KJV or ESV since they’re protestant translations, i suggest the Douay Rheims Bible which you can get on pdf and if you want a physical copy, any catholic Bible should do
 
  1. Jesus is not Three Persons, he is One Person of the Holy Trinity
  2. The Bible was writ, compiled, edited and canonized by the Catholic Church, if you do not believe in the authority of Nicea neither can you believe in the authority of the Church when it decided which books were in the Bible and which were not (Why do you think we have 4 Gospels and not 6 or 11?) and therefore cannot appeal to the Bible, the Biblical canon exists because of the Church, not the other way around, as a matter of fact, the Church was here YEARS before the Apostles wrote the Books of the New Testament
 
The language that the New Testament was written was Greek. That means I have to read and understand a Greek Holy Bible.

Any good Greek version on mind?

What if the interpretations have some mistakes?
 
They cannot, the ones officially endorsed at least, remember, the Biblical canon derives it’s authority (in so far as it is a canon, the books there contained derive their authority from divine inspiration) from the Church, not the Church from the Bible
 
Even the disciples were having false understandings. Jesus was always correcting them.

How then someone can claim that then canon is right?
 
What do you have to say then about the following Mathew 20:21-25

[21] Who said to her: What wilt thou? She saith to him: Say that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left, in thy kingdom. [22] And Jesus answering, said: You know not what you ask. Can you drink the chalice that I shall drink? They say to him: We can. [23] He saith to them: My chalice indeed you shall drink; but to sit on my right or left hand, is not mine to give to you, but to them for whom it is prepared by my Father. [24] And the ten hearing it, were moved with indignation against the two brethren. [25] But Jesus called them to him, and said: You know that the princes of the Gentiles lord it over them; and they that are the greater, exercise power upon them.

If Father, the Son ( Jesus ) and the Holy Spirit is one God, then why Jesus in Mathew 20:23 said

That “… to sit on my right or left hand, is not mine to give to you, but to them for whom it is prepared by my Father”?
 
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Yes the disciples had false understandings. And even after his Ascension his followers were confused about aspects of his nature. Thats why he left a Church with authority to guide us.
 
I am not sure that all the interpretations are right since the first Christians were arguing for small thinks.
Why then I have to believe, that believes like trinity is true. Bible and the teachings of Jesus proves the opposite. Check the verses I already posted.
 
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Can someone find a verse in Holy bible, where Jesus was teaching that he was three entities?

NO.

So why then someone has to believe what the people decided in 325, at the Council of Nicaea?
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Some correction…it wad not just peopele who sat in council at Nicea…it was bishops of the Catholic Church…

Also…look at Gen 1v2… It mentions the spirit of God…
 
And have you checked the verses you didn’t post? I said it’s all over the Bible, not just Luke or Matthew.

All you have proven is that Jesus is not the Father. But we have already said that.
 
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With all due respect…you are isolating bible sections…you will not get anywhere with this…take the whole Bible together…and take into account the Church fathers…before the Bible was compiled…

At Nicea in 325… The Canon of the Bible was not yet settled!
 
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Even the disciples were having false understandings. Jesus was always correcting them.

How then someone can claim that then canon is right?
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I think you are getting your timelines confused…

Well…because He has not yet ascended to heaven…remember what He told them…not until He has ascended and sent the Holy Spirit…and only then will they understand fully…
 
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I am not sure that all the interpretations are right since the first Christians were arguing for small thinks.
Why then I have to believe, that believes like trinity is true. Bible and the teachings of Jesus proves the opposite. Check the verses I already posted.
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I think you should realize something…you are getting different understanding sof verses because of your interpretation background…or tradition…

Pls watch this 20 min video from a protestant…about using tradition to interpret the Bible…
 
See, the OP was good. It had an explanation for why you felt the verses were in opposition to the Trinity.
The subsequent posts are not as good. You’re just posting Bible verses that seem completely compatible with our understanding of the Trinity. You have to explain what you find wrong with it.

To explain: a statue is a being, but is not a person. I am a person, and a being. God is Being, ultimately simple, composed of no parts and yet though one Being, He is three Persons.
 
I read the Bible more than one times until today. I am not speaking only for the New Testament but also the Old Testament.

If you have something in mind that proves that the father the son and the Holy Spirit are on God, please post the references and we speak about.
 
The outer nodes and their connections is the base for our conversation. I believe on that. You believe on that.

The father is God and the son is God.

It might be that are different Gods having different power.

I have not found a verse that the Holy Spirit is God. Could you post a verse from the Holy Bible claiming that?
 
You mean the Pentecost fire on their heads. But still they were having wrong understandings. Even Saint Paul later was correcting them.
 
They sat in council…:similar to the Jerusalem council in acts 15.

Well, also the same could be said of you, isn’t it? That you are also human and how do you know you are correct? You could be wrong too?

The difference is those bishops gathered together in a council and were guided by the Holy Spirit…
 
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