Trump accuses Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower phones

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Michael_Mayo said:
You sound like a sore winner.
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I’ve suggested to him before that doing a touchdown dance is not the same thing as an argument.

And look, I don’t want him or any other Trump supporters to feel unwelcome. We’re all friends here. This should be a friendly debate: there’s no personal animosity. But if you can’t stand to see your guy criticized, you probably shouldn’t be on a forum where people debate and discuss the news.

(Just like Trump probably shouldn’t be President if he has such thin skin that he has to engage in stupid Twitter feuds, but that’s another discussion…)
 
chero23 said:
This just in, Senate Intelligence Committee finds ‘no indications’ of wiretapping, wider surveillance at Trump Tower.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-intelligence-committee-finds-indications-wiretapping-trump-tower/story?id=46177746
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Trump has reiterated that he stands by his accusations, according to his spokesperson. He told Tucker Carlson that he has some kind of evidence that he will provide when he wants to, but also admitted (in the same interview) that he got the idea from news reports. Not sure how those things fit together, but that’s our President!
 
TMC said:
Trump has reiterated that he stands by his accusations, according to his spokesperson. He told Tucker Carlson that he has some kind of evidence that he will provide when he wants to, but also admitted (in the same interview) that he got the idea from news reports. Not sure how those things fit together, but that’s our President!
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I guess he wants to “surprise” us yet again!!!
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
I’ve suggested to him before that doing a touchdown dance is not the same thing as an argument.

And look, I don’t want him or any other Trump supporters to feel unwelcome. We’re all friends here. This should be a friendly debate: there’s no personal animosity. But if you can’t stand to see your guy criticized, you probably shouldn’t be on a forum where people debate and discuss the news.

(Just like Trump probably shouldn’t be President if he has such thin skin that he has to engage in stupid Twitter feuds, but that’s another discussion…)
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I will eventually leave. The insults towards Trump and his supporters are ridiculous. Neither we or Trump are stupid. Then you can all pat yourselves on the back for running off the Trump supporter!
 
Michael68 said:
Sure, sure. Maybe you can find a candidate in 2020 that understands how we elect, by electoral college and not the popular vote! Good Luck!!!
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A few Californians establishing residences in MI, WI, PA, and FL should do the trick.

How’s Mark Cuban or one of the other sharks sound?
 
Michael68 said:
I will eventually leave. The insults towards Trump and his supporters are ridiculous. Neither we or Trump are stupid. Then you can all pat yourselves on the back for running off the Trump supporter!
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I’m not sure why you’re so defensive and touchy about this. You’re entitled to your opinion, and people are entitled to disagree with you. No one is lobbing personal insults at you. If seeing people criticize Trump bothers you this much, you probably shouldn’t hang out in threads where he is being discussed. It’s not like people didn’t throw plenty of shade at Obama for eight years. It comes with the territory.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
I’m not sure why you’re so defensive and touchy about this. You’re entitled to your opinion, and people are entitled to disagree with you. No one is lobbing personal insults at you. If seeing people criticize Trump bothers you this much, you probably shouldn’t hang out in threads where he is being discussed. It’s not like people didn’t throw plenty of shade at Obama for eight years. It comes with the territory.
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Yes, it comes with the territory. If one promises “hope” or “Greatness” to get elected, accountability is a just expectation. And if a president is going to call his predecessor “sick” and make accusation of illegal wiretapping he ought to be prompt with his evidence, not withhold the it for going on 2 weeks.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
Yes, it comes with the territory. If one promises “hope” or “Greatness” to get elected, accountability is a just expectation. And if a president is going to call his predecessor “sick” and make accusation of illegal wiretapping he ought to be prompt with his evidence, not withhold the it for going on 2 weeks.
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Do you feel the same of the ones accusing Russia influenced the election and still no evidence for months now?
 
Michael68 said:
Do you feel the same of the ones accusing Russia influenced the election and still no evidence for months now?
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How do you define “still no evidence”? Multiple intelligence agencies investigated and came to this conclusion. I understand that you disagree with them (for some reason), but the determination and reports of multiple intelligence agencies is not “no evidence.”
 
Michael68 said:
I will eventually leave. The insults towards Trump and his supporters are ridiculous. Neither we or Trump are stupid. Then you can all pat yourselves on the back for running off the Trump supporter!
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It’s not like the Trumpster cohort (you included) doesn’t dish it out in at least equal measure.
 
Michael68 said:
How are they?
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Most seem to mean that Russia attempted to exert pressure in favor of trump.
I’m trying to figure out in advance if you’re going to say that anything other than literally hacking the voting machines and changing the numbers doesn’t count.
 
Michael68 said:
I will eventually leave. The insults towards Trump and his supporters are ridiculous. Neither we or Trump are stupid. Then you can all pat yourselves on the back for running off the Trump supporter!
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Please don’t let the door hit you in the backside on your way.🤷

As for insults, I’ve taken a lot more grief from you personally and many of your fellow supporters than I have seen handed out by those of us who have questioned his integrity, honesty, moral compass, and suitability to govern.

This man has so many inconsistencies and misstatements that cannot be explained away and if you are tired of the media (whom is constantly derided and insulted by Trump and his supporters) and the rest of us with serious questions then I suggest that you endeavor to get real answers to all these issues and act accordingly.
 
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