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ProVobis
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Not to sound cynical but that depends on the state you’re in. CA can have 1 million errors and not influence the electoral college.
Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system
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Rockoh22
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I agree with many of the things said to my argument.
However looking at the recent vote by mail elections. Who was it that canceled the result? I can not remember. There are a lot, and I mean a lot of vote by mail fraud news over the years. Someone told me that there was a 25% vote that was not counted somewhere? I can’t remember. The guy that told me is a Democrat.
Anywho. It is what it is. And elected officials will do what they can to win. Hope our votes count and we go from there.
However looking at the recent vote by mail elections. Who was it that canceled the result? I can not remember. There are a lot, and I mean a lot of vote by mail fraud news over the years. Someone told me that there was a 25% vote that was not counted somewhere? I can’t remember. The guy that told me is a Democrat.
Anywho. It is what it is. And elected officials will do what they can to win. Hope our votes count and we go from there.
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Yes, you are absolutely correct. This was how Mark Harris, the GOP candidate for North Carolina’s Ninth Congressional District illegally “won” the election. He employed a GOP operative, Leslie McCrae Dowless, to the task of “filling out at least a thousand mail-in-ballot requests, many without voters’ knowledge, and deploying a team of friends, family members, and other associates to pose as election officials and collect them. Votes for Democrats were allegedly tossed out, and everything else was cast—or altered—for Harris.”
This was done to over 900 ballots, and was the subject of a huge investigation, and the need for a special election after Harris, a senior pastor of a Baptist church, perjured himself on the witness stand, and facing consequences of being caught, finally admitted the election was tainted and called for a new election to avoid being prosecuted.
You can read about it here. This is also why I will don a bee suit and wear six oven mitts on each hand if I have to to vote in person this fall. I will not have my vote stolen or altered by some Republican hack trying to steal the election for Trump.
Source:
A Tearful Close to North Carolina’s Election-Fraud Hearings
How Mark Harris, a prominent pastor in Charlotte, lost the Ninth Congressional District.
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OneSheep
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In the mean time, Trump followers think what he is saying is true. Last month over 50 people drank bleach in Texas. Why would such followers hesitate to try to vote twice?
Why is the President not being cited for violating NC law?
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“Law & Order” only applies to some people. If you have too much money or too much power in the US, you are above the law.
For example (manipulating securities prices is a crime in the US, but the SEC no longer cares):
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Sooo ,the flagging fest has begun again I see…
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Jeanne_S
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Trump never told anybody to drink bleach.Anyone that would do so,I would question their mental capacity.
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OneSheep
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A person very close to me insists that UV light exposure, using some kind of UV generator, will kill covid in the body. He is not lacking in mental capacity, he is simply brain-washed into trusting a very tight circle of people and only non-science doctors, and no scientists. The greatest of saints borrowed heavily from the study of creation, and that is what science does, in a very methodical way; they study creation. Overexposure to UV causes skin cancer, and UV does not go into the lungs, where the covid infection does the most damage.
I don’t know why he got like that, but I think it started with his listening to talk radio, people with an agenda selling “health products” by convincing listeners that the whole mainstream medical community is wrong. He turned from the scientific method itself, controlled experiments, and replaced it with simply believing whomever they affiliated with politically. It’s extremely dangerous. His wife is allowing her 90+ year old mother out in public and refuses to let her wear a mask, and she doesn’t wear a mask either. Frankly, its prideful, and its testing God. It has the flavor of a cult. She refuses to listen to voices of reason. There is no reason for science to be political.
So, getting back to voting twice, it isn’t dangerous health-wise, but it is certainly against the law and unethical. Do you really think that Trump followers won’t try this, when there are people putting their lives in danger because of his example? Now he’s ridiculing Biden for wearing a mask. I agree that his wearing it around his neck for a speech is making a statement, but this is not something to make a political issue, it is dangerous to get people to shun wearing masks.
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Rockoh22
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Why is it Trump followers are at risk?
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OneSheep
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They are at risk of prosecution if they vote twice, as Trump asked them to “try” doing.
They are at risk of spreading covid 19 to their loved ones if they do not wear masks. The woman I am talking about is disallowing caregivers from wearing masks around her own mother. The caregiver lives in an area where Covid has now infected 3-4% of the population. We live in a covid hot spot.
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Rockoh22
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Ok, but why Trump supporters only?
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Actually, I think there are stupid people on both sides. Trump supporters will believe in Trump and not Biden. If Biden had said this, I think there are some stupid Biden supporters that would have tried it, too.
In this case, it was Trump that suggested it so, it would naturally be Trump supporters that would fall for it. It’s not that one side is stupider than the other…both sides have them.
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I think that Trump’s statements are beneath the dignity of the presidency.
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Rockoh22
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Fair assessment, but poorly stated.
The only instance that I know of people drinking bleach after the media twist of Trump words, was a couple, whom the man died. Turned out to be a Democrat. The lady survived, and people where speculating that this was a possible murder attempt by the woman. I do not know more of the story, because reporters do not care to follow up in this sort of things.
The only instance that I know of people drinking bleach after the media twist of Trump words, was a couple, whom the man died. Turned out to be a Democrat. The lady survived, and people where speculating that this was a possible murder attempt by the woman. I do not know more of the story, because reporters do not care to follow up in this sort of things.
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OneSheep
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A person who does not trust Trump would not be empowered to break the law. While it is true that someone might “try” to get back at Trump by voting twice for Biden, it would still be the words of the POTUS inspiring such lawlessness. But yes, anyone who violates the law is at risk of prosecution.
It is the nature of businessmen to get around as many laws as possible in the pursuit of wealth. This is my experience. Trump appears to be applying the practice in other arenas.
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Rockoh22
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Trump did not say break the law and vote twice. People who say that, have selective hearing. Would this not be the media telling people to break the Law, and using Trump as an excuse?
Trump was clear, and the media has twisted the words. SO… Who is telling people to break the law? Trump or the Media?
Trump was clear, and the media has twisted the words. SO… Who is telling people to break the law? Trump or the Media?
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PaulinVA
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Trump. He told people in Pennsylvania to vote absentee, and then show up at the polls and try to vote. If they let you, go ahead. If later they count the absentee ballots, they’ll just throw yours out since you already voted at the polls.
No, they’ll throw you in jail for voter fraud.
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It is seen as a “mixture” by snopes: Did Trump Tell People To Vote Twice? | Snopes.com
If a person mails their ballot the day before voting day, their ballot will not be shown to be counted, that is absolutely certain. So all the voters who do that (and those whose ballots have not yet been entered into the system because of backlog etc.) will find that their vote had not been counted when they go to the polling place, and they will vote again, according to Trump’s guidelines.
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Rockoh22
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Hmmm. DO you know why we have White House press secretary? Because the President says something, and reporters have questions. SO Press secretary can elaborate more on a particular topic. Well, did you listened to the Press Secretary elaborate on the answer? She gave the answers people have.
But, but, but… Here is the problem. Does the media tell the truth?
Anger sells in todays world. Anger gets clicks and clicks get $$$$$$$$. The Media sells anger to make $$$$$.
But, but, but… Here is the problem. Does the media tell the truth?
Anger sells in todays world. Anger gets clicks and clicks get $$$$$$$$. The Media sells anger to make $$$$$.
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PaulinVA
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In previous administration, that’s how it worked.
No, that’s not the problem. The problem is that the President doesn’t tell the truth.
I don’t know what your talking about when you mention anger.
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