Trump family’s elaborate lifestyle is a ‘logistical nightmare’ — at taxpayer expense

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Paul Ryan wouldn’t have to be VP. Agnew resigned without replacement, then Nixon resigned, making Ford the President.
When Agnew resigned, Ford was appointed as his replacement at VP. Ford wasn’t the Speaker of the House, he was the minority leader. Nixon could have appointed someone else (as Ford did when appointing Rockefeller). Ford became president because he was the sitting VP at the time of Nixon’s resignation. If the VP position had still been vacant at the time of Nixon’s resignation, the speaker of the House (Carl Albert) would have become President.
 
It seems to me that when Obama was Presdident, he was criticized for governing by executive order rather than through legislation. But I guess Trump can do no wrong, so it must be good when he does it.
Yes it seems apparently so.
 
Yes it seems apparently so.
Of course common sense would tell you that with his predecessor using the EO as often as he did, the next President who opposed those EOs would have to write at least as many to not only undo the previous EOs, but to fix the problems left over.

Perhaps Trump would have written as many EOs regardless of whether Obama had been able to get any real legislative accomplishments done after the ACA, when he controlled both houses, but we will never know. All we have is what happened, and his profligate use of the EO relative to actual legislation has set a very bad precedent for everyone unfortunately.
 
Try not to be lost. It’s still only 4 wks into the Trump Admin. Give him time and the various committees their time to investigate his ties to his bbf, Russian President Vlad Putin and any ethics investigations that may yet come. Bill Clinton wasn’t impeached 4 wks into his first term and neither were articles of impeachment recommended by the judiciary committee for Dick Nixon, otherwise known as Tricky Dicky at the time, within this time frame.
Hillary Clinton helped write the impeachment paperwork for Nixon.
 
Of course common sense would tell you that with his predecessor using the EO as often as he did, the next President who opposed those EOs would have to write at least as many to not only undo the previous EOs, but to fix the problems left over.

Perhaps Trump would have written as many EOs regardless of whether Obama had been able to get any real legislative accomplishments done after the ACA, when he controlled both houses, but we will never know. All we have is what happened, and his profligate use of the EO relative to actual legislation has set a very bad precedent for everyone unfortunately.
How many of Trump’s EO’s are simply undoing EO’s of Obama? I’m not aware of any. Obama’s EO’s were criticized, not just because some did not approve of their content, but because of the very principle of governing by EO instead of by working with the congress. And now we have a President who nominally has a majority in both houses of congress in his party, and still he chooses to govern by EO. I begin to wonder if Trump paid attention in civics class when the roles of the three branches of government were explained.
 
How many of Trump’s EO’s are simply undoing EO’s of Obama? I’m not aware of any. Obama’s EO’s were criticized, not just because some did not approve of their content, but because of the very principle of governing by EO instead of by working with the congress. And now we have a President who nominally has a majority in both houses of congress in his party, and still he chooses to govern by EO. I begin to wonder if Trump paid attention in civics class when the roles of the three branches of government were explained.
I’d say a number were done to curb the effects of previous EOs.

Regardless, I am not fan of the overuse of the EO by either party. They are a way for a President to score quick wins for his cause, Constitutional intent be damned.
 
Try not to be lost. It’s still only 4 wks into the Trump Admin. Give him time and the various committees their time to investigate his ties to his bbf, Russian President Vlad Putin and any ethics investigations that may yet come. Bill Clinton wasn’t impeached 4 wks into his first term and neither were articles of impeachment recommended by the judiciary committee for Dick Nixon, otherwise known as Tricky Dicky at the time, within this time frame.
If this is the strategy now, good. The dems can investigate to nowhere while we get the country back on track. Id rather they get out of the way. Let them hole up and investigate!!!
 
I’ve heard rumblings through the DC grapevine that some Republicans are tossing the idea around of impeaching both in 2018 so that Paul Ryan can then serve half of Trump’s term and then two full terms. Feel free to take that with a bucketful of salt because it seems a bit far-fetched even to me.
I’m not sure about that one. I don’t know of anything Mike Pence has done to warrant an investigation.

Never know these days though.
 
… Measured, reasoned, thinking, fair-minded people are going to totally turn off and tune out anything the Trump haters and the never-Trumpers have to say. Then if there really is a legitimate issue, we won’t be there to listen. I am almost there.
Anything I can do to help, let me know. 🙂
 
If this is the strategy now, good. The dems can investigate to nowhere while we get the country back on track. Id rather they get out of the way. Let them hole up and investigate!!!
Except it may not be just the Democrats holed up.

Here’s one Republican senator calling for an exhaustive investigation. And the GOP Senate majority leader says investigation is likely. And another Republican said this mo that President Donald Trump’s possible conflicts of interest could be among the more than 40 items the House Oversight Committee investigates.

cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/kfile-roy-blunt-flynn-investigation/

cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/republicans-want-flynn-investigations/

cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/jason-chaffetz-trump-administration-investigation/
 
Of course common sense would tell you that with his predecessor using the EO as often as he did, the next President who opposed those EOs would have to write at least as many to not only undo the previous EOs, but to fix the problems left over.

Perhaps Trump would have written as many EOs regardless of whether Obama had been able to get any real legislative accomplishments done after the ACA, when he controlled both houses, but we will never know. All we have is what happened, and his profligate use of the EO relative to actual legislation has set a very bad precedent for everyone unfortunately.
You hit at a point. Opponents of BHO criticized him for signing EOs whining he was governing by fiat. But when their guy now does it, it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. It’s fine if people believe and have faith in DJT saving a nation and even the world. That’s their right. But the Trump faithful should just fess up already. When BHO did it, they cried foul. When DJT does it, they cheer grand slam. It’s because they opposed BHO but agree with DJT.
 
How many of Trump’s EO’s are simply undoing EO’s of Obama? I’m not aware of any. Obama’s EO’s were criticized, not just because some did not approve of their content, but because of the very principle of governing by EO instead of by working with the congress. And now we have a President who nominally has a majority in both houses of congress in his party, and still he chooses to govern by EO. I begin to wonder if Trump paid attention in civics class when the roles of the three branches of government were explained.
Game. Set. Match.
 
Which has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Unless you expect HC to write the papers for Trump.
I am not sure what it has to do with anything. Nixon clearly deserved to be impeached. Should she have not written the impeachment papers?
 
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