Trump intends to stay at his New Jersey golf course until MID-AUGUST

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You’re foolish to believe any politician.

Even the part about pre-existing conditions may be sabotaged.
 
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Who said I believed any politician?

I never participated in Obamacare.
 
Fortis used to offer something like this before the ACA. Also community colleges and the like. Most of them didn’t cover pre/existing conditions, pregnancies, or much else.
 
Did you go without health insurance or were you covered by Medicare? If you were covered by Medicare, did you have a supplemental plan?

ACA (or Obamacare if you prefer the implied insult to a U.S. President) was a series of laws, rules, and regulations that covered all health insurance plans offered in the United States, even those that were allowed exemptions.
 
I didn’t buy it when the fine was not imposed.
After that I was able to qualify for our state insurance for a year or two and then
Medicare.
Thankfully, I never had to buy Obamacare.

My daughter-in-law has excellent insurance through the airlines she works for and my son also has good insurance through the company he works for.
 
Did the state insurance you bought follow ACA rules (no pre existing conditions, no maximums, paid for annual checkups, etc)? Do you currently have a supplemental plan with your Medicare? If so, you have what you obviously dislike.

Btw, why do you call health insurance Obamacare?
 
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Most of them didn’t cover pre/existing conditions, pregnancies, or much else.
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Any company that had an ERISA-qualified group health plan (and that’s just about all of them) HAD to cover pre-existing conditions after (I believe it was) 60 days. Family coverage was always optional.

Companies had ERISA-qualified plans because the cost of non-qualified plans wasn’t deductible.
 
The problem was the gap period limits on the pre-existing condition. People like me who who were BORN with pre-existing conditions or those with serious health problems. Were we to be laid off or our company shut down, and we could not find a job before the coverage gap deadline hit, we would have to wait a full year to be covered by another group plan. We were un-insurable through individual plans.
 
And most of those companies also changed their policies to meet the new ACA requirements, such as covered annual checkups,
 
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we would have to wait a full year to be covered by another group plan
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I didn’t have the experience, so I’ll have to be deferential. But if I’m not mistaken, you could get into another group plan immediately if you had been on another one within so many days of getting the second one. I can’t recall the time period.

I never heard of an ERISA-qualified plan for which you had to wait a year.

But the fact is that perhaps the biggest problem with employment-related health insurance is the “well worker effect”. People with chronic illnesses usually don’t stay employed long. They can keep coverage through COBRA for a short time, then they are out of insurance altogether.
 
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People with chronic illnesses usually don’t stay employed long. They can keep coverage through COBRA for a short time, then they are out of insurance altogether.
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And some of us work every day of our lives since we were teenagers 🙂

COBRA was simply too expensive to maintain.

During the only time I was ever laid off, I ended up taking a unskilled job that had insurance (bringing home a $27 every two week paycheck because the group premiums were so expensive). Those were very dark times.
 
meaning no offense, but I think it was Johns Hopkins that did a study on the benefits of “preventive care”, of which “well person exams” are a part, and found that it did not change outcomes.

Rather than spend money on well people, then, the government would have done better to save that money for people who actually need medical care.

At present, the only real purpose the well person exams serve is to allow insurers to raise the premium contributions of people who exhibit symptoms of chronic conditions or disclose unhealthy lifestyles in those exams.
 
because it was called Obamacare from the beginning. that is the only name I knew it by.
 
The shoe fit - Obamacare - famous for “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”!
Just one of the more well known lines he used. He earned the title of this super-dooper waste of Millions of dollars.
 
There probably isn’t a way to provide, for all, the kind of healthcare Americans have become used to.

Most countries with socialized medicine have two or more tiers of care; the one for everybody and the one for everybody who can afford it. Quality, of course, differs among the tiers.
 
It seems like a good idea to have insurance offered more competively -as in between states and groups. Also temporary “holds” covering a period of time if one becomes financially not able to pay a premium. There must be a variety of ways to streamline insurance policies.
Automobile insurance needs a good overhaul also. It takes too much of a income for everyone and there has never been cost cutting attempted.
Since this topic is about President Trump staying in NJ till Mid August - it would be good news to report how hard he works everyday and travels to rally people to vote. It must be nice for him to look outside at a different view!
 
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