Trump intends to stay at his New Jersey golf course until MID-AUGUST

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🤔 Good question. I don’t think the Hiltons.
 
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Good luck with drowning out his insults and attacks, many directed at his own allies.
 
Xystus said:
You are paying the same amount of money via taxes no matter where the president spends his time.
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Yes. We get that. And everybody understands that the president has to travel with a large team. And nobody begrudges him some vacation time. It’s a tough job.

The issue is that President Trump has refused to put his assets into a blind trust and continues to be the owner of a large business that does significant amounts of business with the government. He chooses to spend his vacation time at resorts that he owns, and which will bill the government for large amounts of money.

There is at least the appearance of impropriety there. This is why past presidents have put their assets into blind trusts, so that they do not create even the appearance, let alone the reality, of impropriety.

Trump has chosen not to do this (and not to release his tax returns, which is not unrelated). He has opened himself up to criticisms and questions.
 
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Trump uses the same 1040 form that you do.

Nothing on that form says where his money [or your money] comes from or who his or your friends are.
 
MonteRCMS said:
Trump uses the same 1040 form that you do.

Nothing on that form says where his money [or your money] comes from or who his or your friends are.
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I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. The IRS certainly does require one to report the sources of one’s income. In my case, I have to attach a W-2.

But in any event, President Trump has chosen to ignore decades of precedent and not release his tax returns.

We are entitled to wonder why.
 
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nor is he required to.
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You’re right, there’s no law requiring him to do so. Maybe there should be, and that’s something we can address once he’s out of office, but for the present, there isn’t.

There’s also no law preventing us from wondering why he first said he would release his tax returns, and then, well, didn’t.

A reasonable person would wonder what he doesn’t want us to know.
 
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If he’s being audited, it wouldn’t be prudent to release them.
 
JanetF said:
If he’s being audited, it wouldn’t be prudent to release them.
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I’m sure it wouldn’t be prudent for him to release them, for any number of reasons. But the fact that he’s being audited, if there is still an ongoing audit, isn’t one of them. Richard Nixon did it. Trump can do it.

He said he would do it. He reneged.

It’s completely reasonable to infer that there’s something in there he doesn’t want us (the people who elected him) to see.
 
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JanetF:
If he’s being audited, it wouldn’t be prudent to release them.
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I’m sure it wouldn’t be prudent for him to release them, for any number of reasons. But the fact that he’s being audited, if there is still an ongoing audit, isn’t one of them. Richard Nixon did it. Trump can do it.

He said he would do it. He reneged.

It’s completely reasonable to infer that there’s something in there he doesn’t want us (the people who elected him) to see.
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Obama says you can keep your doctor and he is branded a liar. Trump says he will release his tax returns and anyone who notes the discrepancy between his words and action say is branded a hater. You just can’t make this stuff up.
 
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Obama says you can keep your doctor and he is branded a liar. Trump says he will release his tax returns and anyone who notes the discrepancy between his words and action say is branded a hater. You just can’t make this stuff up.
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Trump owns his tax returns.

Does Obama own your doctor?
 
MonteRCMS said:
Trump owns his tax returns.

Does Obama own your doctor?
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Both made a promise, both promises where never kept. Trump could have very easily “I will never in a million years release my tax returns”. If he said that we can’t accuse him of being dishonest. But if he said he would do something then failed to do it, then it is dishonest.
 
President Trump has complete control over the release of his returns. It is within his power to release them.

On the other hand, President Obama could not make such a promise. As president he does not have control over every doctor, hospital, medical practice, medical facility in the US. The medical professionals and facilities may choose to no longer accept X insurance policy or even choose to end the care of a specific individual. Remember, the free marked capitalist medical business is just that.

Heck, I have had the same doctor for a decade. In fact, I do not know anyone personally who has been forced to change doctors since the ACA became law. Some may have chosen to because a certain doc became out of network for their insurance, and they did not want to pay the copay. That has been the situation as long as there has been “in network” “out of network” insurance policies, at least a quarter of a century.
 
This line was referencing the “grandfather provision”, however, it made excellent ammo for the opposition. Here is the press briefing where the context is explained:

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 11/05/2013

James S. Brady Press Briefing Room 1:01 P.M. EST
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It would be good if President Trump issued a statement that admitted he promised to release his tax records and has now decided to retract that promise. Would score HUGELY integrity points.
 
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