Trump team and United Technologies reach agreement on keeping close to 1,000 factory jobs in Carrier plant in Indiana

[tomarin]

This is not a “random citizen”; this is a union leader.

And Mr. Trump has every right in the First Amendment to criticize and counter-criticize whomever he wishes.

I think what was meant was, the union leader is not a political rival.

 

[J_Peterson]

This is not a “random citizen”; this is a union leader.

And Mr. Trump has every right in the First Amendment to criticize and counter-criticize whomever he wishes.

Even a teenage girl?

This is what happens when Donald Trump attacks a private citizen on Twitter

Just a taste of what the “silent majority” had to say about a young, politically involved woman:

*“Wishing I could f—ing punch you in the face. id then proceed to stomp your head on the curb and urinate in your bloodied mouth and i know where you live, so watch your f—ing back punk.” *

 

[Theo520]

I certainly don’t see an 18yr old college student as a “teen girl.”

I do agree Trump could speak more about civility, so of his followers are lacking.

Even a teenage girl?

This is what happens when Donald Trump attacks a private citizen on Twitter

Just a taste of what the “silent majority” had to say about a young, politically involved woman:

*“Wishing I could f—ing punch you in the face. id then proceed to stomp your head on the curb and urinate in your bloodied mouth and i know where you live, so watch your f—ing back punk.” *

 

[SuperLuigi]

Even a teenage girl?

This is what happens when Donald Trump attacks a private citizen on Twitter

Just a taste of what the “silent majority” had to say about a young, politically involved woman:

*“Wishing I could f—ing punch you in the face. id then proceed to stomp your head on the curb and urinate in your bloodied mouth and i know where you live, so watch your f—ing back punk.” *

Interesting note on the “silent majority” considering that all we keep hearing about is how Clinton won the popular vote…recount! recount! recount!

Oh, and to be perfectly clear, Trump never sent that message; it was from someone else.

To make things even more clear, both Leslie Jones (the actress who Milo criticized and got banned for) and SNL actor Alec Baldwin used their celebrity profile accounts to issue a swarm of two individuals. Neither of them were disciplined by Twitter.

Also, Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber fans would at times threaten each other on social media. No action seems to have been taken there.

On the matter of Trump himself, he had received numerous threats on openly on twitter from those huggable, lovable liberals. :hug3::grouphug::console:

So really the knife cuts both ways and of course the MSM is going to make those on the shallow end of Trump tweets and his supporters comments the poor little victims. But the other side is often just as bad if not worse since they can apparently get away with at least the targeting aspect of social media.

Finally, conservatives have been critical of Trump’s language the entire election season. Specifically, I called him out for calling Megyn Kelly a “bimbo” and thought that was a waste of time and not nice to a woman who shoots straight from the hip.

And as someone pointed out, the girl is 18 and if you’re going to go public with opinions and confrontations, your ideas are fair game no matter what your age is.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

ktla.com/2016/12/08/carrier-will-use-tax-benefits-from-trump-deal-to-fund-automation-ultimately-cutting-more-jobs/
KTLA:

It sounded like great news when Carrier said last week that it would invest millions in the Indiana plant it decided to keep in the U.S.

The company’s deal with President-elect Donald Trump to keep a furnace plant from moving to Mexico also calls for a $16 million investment in the facility.

But that has a big down side for some of the workers in Indianapolis.

Most of that money will be invested in automation said to Greg Hayes, CEO of United Technologies, Carrier’s corporate parent. And that automation will replace some of the jobs that were just saved.

The decision to keep Carrier’s furnace manufacturing operations in the U.S. instead of moving them to Mexico will save about 800 jobs out of the 1,400 at the plant, at least in the near term. The company declined to say how many of the plants 800 remaining jobs could be lost to automation, or when.

“You can’t just blame cheap labor [outside the U.S.],” said Dan Miklovic, principal analyst with LNS research. “Certainly many of the jobs that we’ve lost, especially in more sophisticated industries, it’s not so much that they’ve been offshored, but it has been automation that replaced them. We use a lot more robots to build cars.”
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This caught my eye. A friend of mine and I have been talking for a few years about the jobs lost to automation. (both he and I work in technology fields). Jobs lost to automation don’t tend to come back. Long term it sounds like Carrier may have less of these positions on both sides of the border. Not just looking at Carrier, but as more jobs become automated I’ve got concerns for that that may mean for people looking for working class jobs in the future.

 

[J_Peterson]

Interesting note on the “silent majority” considering that all we keep hearing about is how Clinton won the popular vote…recount! recount! recount!

Oh, and to be perfectly clear, Trump never sent that message; it was from someone else.

To make things even more clear, both Leslie Jones (the actress who Milo criticized and got banned for) and SNL actor Alec Baldwin used their celebrity profile accounts to issue a swarm of two individuals. Neither of them were disciplined by Twitter.

Also, Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber fans would at times threaten each other on social media. No action seems to have been taken there.

On the matter of Trump himself, he had received numerous threats on openly on twitter from those huggable, lovable liberals. :hug3::grouphug::console:

So really the knife cuts both ways and of course the MSM is going to make those on the shallow end of Trump tweets and his supporters comments the poor little victims. But the other side is often just as bad if not worse since they can apparently get away with at least the targeting aspect of social media.

Finally, conservatives have been critical of Trump’s language the entire election season. Specifically, I called him out for calling Megyn Kelly a “bimbo” and thought that was a waste of time and not nice to a woman who shoots straight from the hip.

And as someone pointed out, the girl is 18 and if you’re going to go public with opinions and confrontations, your ideas are fair game no matter what your age is.

This is not normal, nor should it be. Trump’s own staffers tweeted screen grabs of the woman’s social media accounts. Also, how did Trump find out so quickly that she volunteered for Jeb Bush’s campaign? It’s all very creepy. Nothing a bunch of celebrities do will ever change my mind that the President of the United States should not be doxing private citizens because they criticized him. He has to get used to criticism, it will not stop until he’s out of office and even then he will have to deal with the History books immortalizing his nonsense.

Give me a break with Milo. He is easily one of the most offensive public figures out there. I feel guilty even typing his name because it gives him just a tiny bit more attention.

 

[Inisfallen]

To make things even more clear, both Leslie Jones (the actress who Milo criticized and got banned for) and SNL actor Alec Baldwin used their celebrity profile accounts to issue a swarm of two individuals. Neither of them were disciplined by Twitter.

Also, Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber fans would at times threaten each other on social media. No action seems to have been taken there.

Are we *really *judging the President-elect by the same standard by which we judge Justin Bieber?

 

[Inisfallen]

And Mr. Trump has every right in the First Amendment to criticize and counter-criticize whomever he wishes.

Of course he does. That’s not in debate here.

But his right to criticize doesn’t exempt him from criticism of the content and style of his utterances.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

To make things even more clear, both Leslie Jones (the actress who Milo criticized and got banned for) and SNL actor Alec Baldwin used their celebrity profile accounts to issue a swarm of two individuals. Neither of them were disciplined by Twitter.

For those unfamiliar Milo (@nero) and others were notified by twitter that he was banned permanently for violating a rule “prohibiting participation in our inciting targeted abuse of individuals.” Milo had been involved in magnifying a harassment compaign against Lesley and attributing fake tweets to Lesley attempting to make it appear that she was engaging in profane harassment and bad behaviour on twitter. Milo had already lost his Twitter verification check in January for previous violation of the rules. At the time of this incident his own twitter page looked clean. But he was also on other Internet forums (ex: 4chan)

Lesley had originally tried blocking the messages, but the number of people involved grew. She tried to reporting the messages from the tweet mob (not just Milo) with no action being taken. This included but was not limited to being called an ape, being sent pictures of people’s butts, receiving an edited picture of herself with semen superimposed on her face, and the previously mentioned fake tweets of her saying bad things. When she encountered one of the fake tweets she would retweet it with a message notifying people that someone was making fake images and attributing them to her (like in this tweet) After saying that she felt “hut” and in “her own personal hell” Lesley announced she was leaving twitter. The CEO of twitter contacted her. Later twitter made an announcement that they had suspended the offending accounts and that they were going to make tools available to users in the coming weeks to fight this type of harassment.