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mary_bobo
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That’s one opinion. Trumps dislikability is at 69% according to polls.
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mary_bobo
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Lighten up. It was meant to be funny.
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queenofheartscv
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But it wasn’t funny, was it? Don’t know how to tell a joke? don’t.
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Lily_Bernans
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I can’t stand Donald Trump, but Crruz’s remark was too far out; it was in very poor taste. A presidential candidate should stick to the issues and not make jokes about “killing” another candidate. There are just some subjects that are off-limits.
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FollowChrist34
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Yes, along these lines, I personally know of a law firm that wasn’t paid by Trump after they prepared for a lawsuit on one of his business issues. I believe he did finally pay (not sure on how that ended), but what I do know is there was a huge struggle over it - their invoices covered hours and hours of work, thousands of dollars. For some reason, Trump decided not to proceed with the lawsuit.
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Robert_Sock
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This scares me. The world has made great strides the last few decades in communication, trade and reducing extreme poverty. A hard-nosed nationalist (my country deserves more than yours) could undo these much needed advances in solving extreme poverty.
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FollowChrist34
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I thought it was funny but definitely in poor taste. I excused the poor taste for a couple of reasons - Cruz’s comment came after the Heidi tweet and Trump’s boast that he could kill a man on Fifth Avenue and not lose support. The tone in this campaign is already in very poor taste. Cruz was just putting his toe in that (largely Trump-generated) pond. I would argue Trump swims in that pond - to remove him from it would be like taking a fish out of water. He would flop around violently for five minutes or so and then die.
I thought Cruz showed a pretty good sense of humor in that interview, which I love in a person. I agree his public persona is often quite stilted, kind of awkward. But I am not sure smooth-talking is a good indicator of presidential material - speaking as an Obama voter. I am usually not bothered by Cruz’s awkwardness; makes him actually kind of more “for real” as far as I am concerned.
His flat tax proposal, on the other hand, scares the hell out of me.
(Kasich, where are you…)
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queenofheartscv
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Before the heidi retweet there was the melania ad.I thought it was funny but definitely in poor taste. I excused the poor taste for a couple of reasons - Cruz’s comment came after the Heidi tweet and Trump’s boast that he could kill a man on Fifth Avenue and not lose support. The tone in this campaign is already in very poor taste. Cruz was just putting his toe in that (largely Trump-generated) pond. I would argue Trump swims in that pond - to remove him from it would be like taking a fish out of water. He would flop around violently for five minutes or so and then die.
I thought Cruz showed a pretty good sense of humor in that interview, which I love in a person. I agree his public persona is often quite stilted, kind of awkward. But I am not sure smooth-talking is a good indicator of presidential material - speaking as an Obama voter. I am usually not bothered by Cruz’s awkwardness; makes him actually kind of more “for real” as far as I am concerned.
His flat tax proposal, on the other hand, scares the hell out of me.
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Ridgerunner
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I’m not a Trumper, but I’m not sure that’s what she meant. We have been through 7 1/2 years of being “just one more country” and have only lost respect throughout the world because of it. The U.S. is, at present, the strongest country in the world, and a country that has long had friends, for some of whom it was dangerous to admit it. We have stood with many against their enemies. We have, with this administration, thrown them to the wolves based on some kind of silly idea of an international community that isn’t a whole lot more than a pack of coyotes ruled here and there by wolves.
This country once stood for something in the world and by and large it was a good thing. Now it stands for betrayal of friends as well as contradictory and self-defeating policies.
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queenofheartscv
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trump nationalism doesn’t mean our country deserves more than others, but that America should first of all take care of our own citizens, ensure our national security, build up our own economy, and be received with fairness by other countries. America’s first priority should be the wellbeing of our citizens not syrian refugees, or illegal immigrants, or protecting some foreign countries, etc.
Trump wants a strong and competent america who is able to take care of its own citizens and then help others as well.
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Lily_Bernans
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Yes, I do know he didn’t mean it, but I still wish he’d refused to stoop to Trump’s level.I thought it was funny but definitely in poor taste. I excused the poor taste for a couple of reasons - Cruz’s comment came after the Heidi tweet and Trump’s boast that he could kill a man on Fifth Avenue and not lose support. The tone in this campaign is already in very poor taste. Cruz was just putting his toe in that (largely Trump-generated) pond. I would argue Trump swims in that pond - to remove him from it would be like taking a fish out of water. He would flop around violently for five minutes or so and then die.
I thought Cruz showed a pretty good sense of humor in that interview, which I love in a person. I agree his public persona is often quite stilted, kind of awkward. But I am not sure smooth-talking is a good indicator of presidential material - speaking as an Obama voter. I am usually not bothered by Cruz’s awkwardness; makes him actually kind of more “for real” as far as I am concerned.
His flat tax proposal, on the other hand, scares the hell out of me.
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Ridgerunner
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The more I see of Cruz the less I think he can win the allegiance of a majority of American voters. It’s even less so with Trump, at least for the moment. But I think many, if not most, believe Trump can turn it around by showing a better part of his personality and intellect (assuming he has the first. Undoubtedly he has the second.) I’m not so sure there is anything more to Cruz than what he has presented so far. In fact, I doubt it very much. He seems to me a one-dimensional cardboard cutout.I thought it was funny but definitely in poor taste. I excused the poor taste for a couple of reasons - Cruz’s comment came after the Heidi tweet and Trump’s boast that he could kill a man on Fifth Avenue and not lose support. The tone in this campaign is already in very poor taste. Cruz was just putting his toe in that (largely Trump-generated) pond. I would argue Trump swims in that pond - to remove him from it would be like taking a fish out of water. He would flop around violently for five minutes or so and then die.
I thought Cruz showed a pretty good sense of humor in that interview, which I love in a person. I agree his public persona is often quite stilted, kind of awkward. But I am not sure smooth-talking is a good indicator of presidential material - speaking as an Obama voter. I am usually not bothered by Cruz’s awkwardness; makes him actually kind of more “for real” as far as I am concerned.
His flat tax proposal, on the other hand, scares the hell out of me.
And having favored two losers already, I now favor Kasich, so don’t accuse me of either being a Trump supporter or a man with any real feel for politics.
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queenofheartscv
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There maybe a possibility of trump teaming up with Kasich.The more I see of Cruz the less I think he can win the allegiance of a majority of American voters. It’s even less so with Trump, at least for the moment. But I think many, if not most, believe Trump can turn it around by showing a better part of his personality and intellect (assuming he has the first. Undoubtedly he has the second.) I’m not so sure there is anything more to Cruz than what he has presented so far. In fact, I doubt it very much. He seems to me a one-dimensional cardboard cutout.
And having favored two losers already, I now favor Kasich, so don’t accuse me of either being a Trump supporter or a man with any real feel for politics.
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I get the feeling there must be more to Cruz, even though he rarely shows it. Just based on his education, a Princeton alumnus and a Harvard law school graduate, something must be hidden from the public. (I realize GWB is a graduate of Yale.) I get a similar feeling about Trump: there is more on the positive side than he often shows. But maybe not.The more I see of Cruz the less I think he can win the allegiance of a majority of American voters. It’s even less so with Trump, at least for the moment. But I think many, if not most, believe Trump can turn it around by showing a better part of his personality and intellect (assuming he has the first. Undoubtedly he has the second.) I’m not so sure there is anything more to Cruz than what he has presented so far. In fact, I doubt it very much. He seems to me a one-dimensional cardboard cutout.
And having favored two losers already, I now favor Kasich, so don’t accuse me of either being a Trump supporter or a man with any real feel for politics.
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Seamus_L
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I don’t see anyone in the Republican party winning in November, UNLESS something happens that makes the Democrats appear soft on terrorism, and that’s definitely within the realm of possibility.
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FollowChrist34
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I think he kind of had to go to bat for Heidi. Push back.
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FollowChrist34
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Ridgerunner, I am so with you on Kasich. He is my favorite too. I am just behind Cruz now pragmatically. To me, Trump is an absolute no. Unthinkable. Too many people simply will never vote for him; he does not have a coherent strategy or set of values; he has a volatile, polarizing kind of limited celebrity appeal. Full stop. And I have no illusions of ever convincing a Trumper of any of the above; no desire to. Facts will bear all of this out soon enough. That is precisely why I am committed to the effort of stopping this in any way possible. Unfortunately it is not Kasich. It is Cruz, that is all that is left. I do hope Kasich stays in to the convention and I would LOVE to see him come in second in the East, with tons of delegates. Neither Kasich or Cruz will go near Trump. Too much of a loose cannon. Look at Gingrich, Christie. It is embarrassing. You can’t change Trump or magicially give him a new political, intellectual coherency. He is what he is - that is his very limited appeal and source of his fatality for the party and country.The more I see of Cruz the less I think he can win the allegiance of a majority of American voters. It’s even less so with Trump, at least for the moment. But I think many, if not most, believe Trump can turn it around by showing a better part of his personality and intellect (assuming he has the first. Undoubtedly he has the second.) I’m not so sure there is anything more to Cruz than what he has presented so far. In fact, I doubt it very much. He seems to me a one-dimensional cardboard cutout.
And having favored two losers already, I now favor Kasich, so don’t accuse me of either being a Trump supporter or a man with any real feel for politics.
But no worries - I agree the Dems will win, probably. The GOP will just fight fight fight to the bitter, deserved end of defeat. Sometimes I wonder if we even want the White House, or just prefer to hate and attack each other, preferably via Twitter.
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I would have to see the invoice. I have a friend who is involved in an estate contest. She inherited some property, but the bank foreclosed on some of the decedent’s other property. So the bank went after my friend for it, including their attorneys’ fees incurred in the foreclosures.
I’m pretty familiar with foreclosures because I have “closed” for banks in resale of a lot of foreclosed properties. The bank’s law firm (a large statewide firm) charged about ten times what it should have cost, and normally does cost. I looked at the bill myself. One of the entries was for two lawyers in the same firm to talk to each other about what was a simple foreclosure. There was all kinds of padding. They charged an hour’s time to review a title search that the title company actually prepared and could be read in two minutes. Not surprisingly, the friend is challenging all of that in the probate court, and rightly so.
I don’t think most people have any idea how grotesquely some of the large law firms charge. That’s why ordinary people can’t even come close to hiring those kinds of firms. Rural and neighborhood lawyers are more reasonable because they have to be affordable.
I’m not saying this particular firm was overcharging, but it would not surprise me in the least if it was.
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Ridgerunner
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Despite what people say, I think Trump’s main problem is that he isn’t schooled in the narrowness of “permitted” political discourse. Every now and then some other politicial will “put his/her foot in it” and the media goes nuts over it. I too think Hillary’s barking like a dog was ridiculous and unpresidential, but to have it on TV night after night? Whatever she said before or after it was lost.
Add to that the fact that the candidates, by and large, only speak in platitudes and talking points, carefully crafted by others, but devoid of practical meaning. I am so weary of Cruz going on about the Constitution I could throw up into my mouth every time I hear him do it. Yes, we know there’s a Constitution, and we know Obama ignores it. But my goodness, doesn’t Cruz’ writers know about anything else?
And Hillary Clinton going on about women about whom she cares nothing, and “free college” which she will never deliver on and will never mention again when she beats Sanders.
We allow ourselves to get trained by the media to constrain our own thoughts; to think in the ways they tell us we must, and we actually comply. We didn’t always. Harry Truman could (and did) turn the air blue with profanity and scatology. Notwithstanding that practically every ten-year-old in America now salts his conversation with the “F” word, we have all been trained to regard harsh language with horror if delivered by a politician. We have all been trained to think we’re at a tea party in the Hamptons, and the politicians have to play the same part.
Truman, again, openly threatened a music critic with a black eye, a nosebleed, and a hernia for criticizing his daughter’s performance. Lyndon Johnson used to put visiting dignitaries at unease by insisting on talking to him while Johnson was seated on the commode doing his duty.
“S.O.B” was one of JFK’s favorite epithets, and he sometimes said it openly.
And does anybody really believe any of these politicians have coherent strategies? Remember Hillary Clinton’s horrific mishandling of the war on Libya? Remember her laughing about Khaddaffi’s death-by-torture? Does anybody really think Cruz is serious about his flat tax? He isn’t, and he knows he isn’t. Kasich, I think, is probably capable of actually having coherent policy positions. But I don’t think anyone else does.
So Trump speaks generalities about “making America great again” without having a coherent policy statement like those who purport to have them, but really don’t. Next January, somebody will be in the White House, in charge of the massive thing we call the federal government; as irresponsible and wasteful an organization as ever existed on this planet.
Are we really going to put a person in it who has sold out her country for the sake of garnering millions for her husband’s speeches, and could engineer the biggest sellout this country ever saw? What’s the “speech price” to Saudi Arabia for sending a U.S. cruise missile into Iran or sinking an Iranian ship bound for Yemen? When it came time for Obama to buy her, did anybody really not know why she wanted Secretary of State? Or are we going to put in a person who talks a lot about the Constitution and flat taxes and Christianity but has exhibited no expertise in doing anything except winning elections by doing it? Maybe we’ll hire an actual manager this time instead. For my money, the only ones who imaginably fit that description now are Kasich and (oh yes) Trump.
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