Trump Thread

[dixieagle]

I don’t see the ‘Muslim religion’ as a religion. It’s more of a cult or an ideology. At best, it is a false religion. You cannot support or defend something that is totally contrary to Christs true religion. Nothing can compare to Gods truth.
I am not sure why anyone would defend the ideology that Muslims believe. It was started by a pedophile. A man who married a 6 yo girl!!
These days if a pedophile started a ‘religion’ people would be outraged. Why are we not outraged just because it was started hundreds of years ago?

This is a singularly misinformed assessment of one of the world’s major religions. A couple of previous posters have linked to the Church’s view.

 

[AFerri48]

I think you are right. Hillary is the ultimate Washington insider.
To be honest, if Bernie were pro-life, I would vote for him in a New York minute.

I wouldn’t. This isn’t a socialist country, it could plausibly go fascist first.

 

[queenofheartscv]

The basic declaration of Islam is: There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger.

Do muslims believe Allah is the same God as ours? If yes, then we share that much in common. If no, we can’t insist our Gods are the same.

If Mohammed is the messenger of this God, people can’t be faulted by wondering who this God truly is. The history of Mohammed and that of Jesus can’t be any more different.

This is not to say that muslims can’t be sincerely religious people. I do believe, however, a catholic should be allowed to say, this religion seems dubious to me.

Buddhism doesn’t pretend to have special knowledge of God and path to His favor, but Islam does claim that.

There are definitely elements in Islam that directly conflict with Catholicism.

Of course we respect those who have been handed down the faith of Islam and practice that faith with a good conscience. We treat them as we would anybody else.

But a critical look at Islam is definitely not unreasonable. In fact in today’s environment I’d say it’s something that must happen. Islam needs a reformation.

 

[Tomdstone]

Most of Trump’s supporters are angry white males. .

Some of Trump’s supporters are pacifists who agree with him that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake and resulted in some of the terrorism we are seeing today in Europe and recently in San Bernadino, CA.
“Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake,” Trump said. “George Bush made a mistake. We can make mistakes. But that one was a beauty. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East.”
Hillary Clinton voted to authorize George W. Bush to go to war in Iraq. Even Berrnie Sanders says the war in Iraq was a mistake, resulting in the destabilization of the whole Middle East.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

The basic declaration of Islam is: There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger.

Do muslims believe Allah is the same God as ours? If yes, then we share that much in common. If no, we can’t insist our Gods are the same.

If Mohammed is the messenger of this God, people can’t be faulted by wondering who this God truly is. The history of Mohammed and that of Jesus can’t be any more different.

This is not to say that muslims can’t be sincerely religious people. I do believe, however, a catholic should be allowed to say, this religion seems dubious to me.

Buddhism doesn’t pretend to have special knowledge of God and path to His favor, but Islam does claim that.

There are definitely elements in Islam that directly conflict with Catholicism.

Of course we respect those who have been handed down the faith of Islam and practice that faith with a good conscience. We treat them as we would anybody else.

But a critical look at Islam is definitely not unreasonable. In fact in today’s environment I’d say it’s something that must happen. Islam needs a reformation.

Why do you think mainstream Islam needs a reformation? Mainstream Islam is fine.

 

[randomuser]

Abortion has killed MILLIONS.

The overwhelming majority of those abortions at the hands of Planned Parenthood, who Trump thinks is “wonderful,” except for when it comes to abortion, so it’s really staggering to think of the lives that could have been born if it weren’t for PP.

Yes, PRAY TO STOP THE LEGALI$ED EXECUTION OF BABIES - and to stop PP.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Why do you think mainstream Islam needs a reformation? Mainstream Islam is fine.

I don’t know what Islam needs. I only know that Islam has elements in it that advocate violent jihadism, which is verified by real life events.

The good peaceful muslims are good despite these violent tenets not because of them.

The Islamic culture is very closed. Scholars can’t freely discuss, debate, dissent. If a muslim scholar writes remotely out of line, his/her life can be in danger. Their religion is taught by having people recite the Koran in Arabic. They do not encourage dialogue or critical analysis. It’s a very authoritarian religion that is so different from catholicism.

The Church in no way is saying that Islam has the same truth as catholicism. If that’s the case, then no one should be catholic with so many rules we have to follow. life might be a lot better for the men who might want four wives and other things.

 

[Pier]

The overwhelming majority of those abortions at the hands of Planned Parenthood, who Trump thinks is “wonderful,” except for when it comes to abortion, so it’s really staggering to think of the lives that could have been born if it weren’t for PP.

Yes, PRAY TO STOP THE LEGALI$ED EXECUTION OF BABIES - and to stop PP.

Voting for a Democrat means PP’s products and services will still be recommended to the young, courtesy of our tax dollars…

Whereas with the Republican candidate, whomever that might be INCLUDING Donald Trump, we could hopefully see pro-life judges appointed to the Supreme Court.

 

[randomuser]

Voting for a Democrat means PP’s products and services will still be recommended to the young, courtesy of our tax dollars…

Whereas with the Republican candidate, whomever that might be INCLUDING Donald Trump, we could hopefully see pro-life judges appointed to the Supreme Court.

If Trump thinks PP is “wonderful” – except for when it comes to abortion – it doesn’t take Nostradamus to figure out that he would appoint to SCOTUS someone who also thinks PP is “wonderful,” INCLUDING abortion.

 

[randomuser]

Voting for a Democrat means PP’s products and services will still be recommended to the young, courtesy of our tax dollars…

Whereas with the Republican candidate, whomever that might be INCLUDING Donald Trump, we could hopefully see pro-life judges appointed to the Supreme Court.

So, if those abortions and non-abortion services Trump thinks are “wonderful” – like testing for STI’s and distribution of contraceptives – are paid for with private funds but still legal, those evils are somehow less grave a sin?

PRAY TO STOP THE LEGALI$ED EXECUTION OF BABIES

 

[queenofheartscv]

If Trump thinks PP is “wonderful” – except for when it comes to abortion – it doesn’t take Nostradamus to figure out that he would appoint to SCOTUS someone who also thinks PP is “wonderful,” INCLUDING abortion.

Except what you said is contrary to reality. The two names he already offered include Bill Pryor that called roe versus wade the worst abomination in constitutional history.

Trump is also going to give a list of conservative judges based on consultation with the heritage foundation and make a personal guarantee that his first nomination will come from that list.

That is called good will.

 

[mikekle]

These days if a pedophile started a ‘religion’ people would be outraged. Why are we not outraged just because it was started hundreds of years ago?

Im not so sure about that, even today, some muslims take very young wives, some as young as 8-9 yrs old, yet no one dares to be outraged at them for it, or at least admit to being outraged publicly.

 

[Peter_J]

So those of us that dislike trump have 0 credibility!?

Not exactly. It’s more a question of Republican orthodoxy.

 

[SuperLuigi]

He has a lot of white male supporters, but I don;t see any statistics on the number of them who are angry. Someone can just as easily say, without support, that most of Hillary’s supporters are angry feminists in favor of giving women the legal right to kill partially born children. Off the wall statements like that need some support to back them up, otherwise you may be found lacking in credibility.

That’s just bad. Would he want Dr. Zudhi Jasser, who is an outspoken Muslim reformist and a doctor that way? What Muslims who work for the CIA?

It’s not racist as Islam isn’t a race, it’s just a real nasty thing to say. I mean, that’s what some of those ISIS people seem to think about Christians.

 

[SuperLuigi]

If Trump thinks PP is “wonderful” – except for when it comes to abortion – it doesn’t take Nostradamus to figure out that he would appoint to SCOTUS someone who also thinks PP is “wonderful,” INCLUDING abortion.

Some of us are having a hard time believing he’d pick a Scalia type conservative, not the least of which the GOP Congress that sells out on certain things may not even push him too hard on. Aside from courting Evangelicals away from Cruz, It would not surprise me if he’d want to sweep social conservatism mostly under the rug like a lot of folks who want people like to me to shut-up about contraceptives, gay “marriage” and abortion so we can just get down to writing out checks or fixing things in some other way.

The problem with this thinking whether it comes from a Democrat or Republican is that as Jason Lewis says “social liberalism begets fiscal liberalism”.

Remember, some voting was done prior to Scalia passing away.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Im not so sure about that, even today, some muslims take very young wives, some as young as 8-9 yrs old, yet no one dares to be outraged at them for it, or at least admit to being outraged publicly.

Well, the “because it’s culture” is a designed excuse that lets a lot of people off the hook so they can avoid the terribly unpopular notion of criticizing the actions of some Muslims.

I have nothing against Muslims in general (I actually see their role as important in the culture war in the West) and while I do think it’s possible to be a conservative/orthodox Muslim and still be a very good person, the fact is that the left has made it very un-PC to criticize Islam in anyway to the point of being ridiculous.

As atheist commentator Pat Condell says “feminist are more than happy to protest Christians, but when it comes to Islam they vanish into the airy mists or put on head-scarf in solidarity”.

So with this double standard, why would anyone be surprised that under these conditions, Islam has become quite influential even though it’s not a huge representation in many nations, while Christianity declines?

 

[AveMaria5]

Most everyone agrees that there are much larger turnouts of voters across the country. Opposing political correctness and all its tentacles, Mr. Trump has lit a fire under many apathetic and discouraged folks. His message was loud and clear and hit the note that people need to hear in order to get our country back and make it GREAT again!

All the PC and Democrats have been put on notice - their chosen one, Hillary, will not be sitting in the White House and the other candidate, Sanders, is a Socialist. (only the Gruber stupid people think a Socialist means a party!)

One by one, Trump’s competitors find they can’t deliver the passion and sincerity of serving our country like Mr. Trump. Trump has the skilled experience that the country needs to survive the last near 8 years of destruction. The issues have been brought to the front and the people are saying, “That’s what I say!”

We must not let Super Pacs and George Soros with his Move on.org and the BLM or Muslim Brotherhood disrupt our right of Free Speech and Assembly. These gangs are bought and paid for thugs and swept up ignorant people destroying peaceful assembly.

How TRUE

 

[AveMaria5]

Muslims believe in the same God you do and the Jewish people do.

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I just love this PC age! Ok, lets call it a religion… but a FALSE religion

But I have to completely disagree here…. we do not believe in the same God. Denying that Jesus is God and that God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit is clearly not the same God.

You’ve got to believe in the TRUTH that God is, to believe in the same God.

It is a false religion started by a false prophet… who was a* pedophile!!*

Does that not bother you at all??? He was a pedophile!

When people say they respect or hold in high regard a religion started by a pedophile I Just have to wonder what on earth is wrong???

It would NEVER be tolerated or respected had it started today!! It would be denounced and the leader arrested!

 

[AveMaria5]

Im not so sure about that, even today, some muslims take very young wives, some as young as 8-9 yrs old, yet no one dares to be outraged at them for it, or at least admit to being outraged publicly.

My point exactly! No one but Muslims think this is ok, because everything Mohammed did was exemplary’
God would never condone this forced sexual exploitation of young girls! This is NOT a religion of the TRUE God.

 

[AveMaria5]

This is a singularly misinformed assessment of one of the world’s major religions. A couple of previous posters have linked to the Church’s view.

A major religion through force and intimidation… if it’s major by sheer numbers. Nonetheless… it is a FALSE religion.

And the Church’s view? Is it?