Trump Thread

[Al_Moritz]

I hope Trump doesn’t back out, and I don’t think he would because he can never look “weak”.

I’m downright giddy about his campaign and I hope be keeps talking with this sort of careless enthusiasm. It’s only good for the left. Rubio would be wiping the floor with Hillary right now, but instead the whole GOP is suffering in popularity. Thanks Trump!

I said at the beginning that Trump’s candidacy would force the right to confront the white supremacy they’ve harbored (and harnessed) for so long. And it has. It’s a relief to see so many conservatives unequivocally denounce him. I think in a few years, the people who have aligned themselves with Trump will suffer harsh political consequences for the choice. It will be the new “He voted for the war in Iraq”.

Totally agree.

As for White Nationalism in the GOP, see this article:

A Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is going to die

About the author (from Wiki):

Roy has advised three Republican Party presidential candidates. He was a health care policy advisor to Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign and was the senior advisor to Rick Perry’s 2016 campaign. After Rick Perry withdrew from the race, Roy joined the 2016 presidential campaign of Marco Rubio as a policy advisor.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

Shadenfreude is not an attractive attitude.
Conservatives are white supremacists now? That’s how I feel about the consequences of choosing Hillary.

I did not call conservatives white supremacists. But they do harness the racist sentiments of some of their constituents to win elections. Trump has just amplified and exposed this. Even David Duke agrees.

I don’t see a future in the US where it will have been more politically beneficial to support Trump than Hillary. Bernie over Hillary? Sure. But no one is going to be shamed for supporting her over a reality show star who has demonstrated no knowledge of world events and a dangerous temperament. That idea just isn’t grounded in any evidence.

 

[Strydersroom]

Trump was making a sarcastic joke but liberals are too uptight for HUMOR!

Joking about assassinating someone or shooting someone in the street is not funny, not presidential, and truly reprehensible doesn’t matter whether a liberal or conservative says it. Especially for someone who claims to want to be the
Leader of the country. Dan Rather said it best when he mentioned how those who support Trump and refuse to criticize him at all will face harsh judgement in history.

 

[Al_Moritz]

Joking about assassinating someone or shooting someone in the street is not funny, not presidential, and truly reprehensible doesn’t matter whether a liberal or conservative says it. Especially for someone who claims to want to be the
Leader of the country. Dan Rather said it best when he mentioned how those who support Trump and refuse to criticize him at all will face harsh judgement in history.

Indeed.

See also this link:

Anyone who thinks Trump was “just joking” about shooting Clinton is missing the point

 

[Jeanne_S]

Nah. He only embarrasses certain “types” of people. The same who might be embarrassed to be seen with someone who isn’t quite up to their standards. The same who could use a little embarrassment from time to time to remind them that they are human after all. You know, the ones who think more highly of the opinions of others and of virtue signaling than they do of the truth. The ones who have been bought and paid for by those dictating the opinions about what should and should not be considered “embarrassing.”

It is pretty clear that those who point to things like “national embarrassment” have no clue regarding what we ought to be embarrassed about since they remain unperturbed by all the shenanigans perpetrated by the Clintons and will vote for her to be their leader.

As always,you are spot on with your assessment!

 

[Jeanne_S]

I did not call conservatives white supremacists. But they do harness the racist sentiments of some of their constituents to win elections. Trump has just amplified and exposed this. Even David Duke agrees.

I don’t see a future in the US where it will have been more politically beneficial to support Trump than Hillary. Bernie over Hillary? Sure. But no one is going to be shamed for supporting her over a reality show star who has demonstrated no knowledge of world events and a dangerous temperament. That idea just isn’t grounded in any evidence.

Trump may say stupid things from time to time,however HC has actually done things that are foolish and questionable.and corrupt .I don’t know,for me actions speak louder than words.

 

[saellis]

Yes, He should end his campaign. What need have we for elections? Coronate Queen Hillary.

 

[tomarin]

Yes, He should end his campaign. What need have we for elections? Coronate Queen Hillary.

He should - he should never have run in the first place. But will he? Unlikely at best.

His fondness for innuendo is getting him in hot water again. When will he learn?

 

[QuestLove]

The funny thing is…
All these problems Donald Trump faces are due to self inflicted wounds. These are all unforced errors…not the media or his rivals setting a trap.
Whether or not it was a joke (I personally don’t think he was inciting gun owners to go after Mrs. Clinton) he should have learnt by now that as a candidate your words carry a lot of weight. And if he becomes the president, he will have to learn to weigh his words as they will carry even more weight.
He is running against someone who is very unpopular, all he has to do is show a little restraint and discipline and he will have no problems. He must be giving his campaign a headache.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

Trump may say stupid things from time to time,however HC has actually done things that are foolish and questionable.and corrupt .I don’t know,for me actions speak louder than words.

I’m not arguing that that’s not your assessment. I’m saying that assessment will not be how history remembers this election. When even conservative national security experts come out against him en mass, you know there’s a problem. General Hayden has said publicly that Trump’s ideas are unconstitutional and would not be implemented by the military.

The problems with this candidate are totally unprecedented. Hillary is a corrupt politician, that’s nothing new. But Trump is

But again, I love every minute of it.

 

[tomarin]

Trump may say stupid things from time to time,however HC has actually done things that are foolish and questionable.and corrupt .I don’t know,for me actions speak louder than words.

I feel like I should point out he’s never held political office before, therefore no track record of dumb actions. I think he’s perfectly capable of doing as well as saying dumb things.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

I feel like I should point out he’s never held political office before, therefore no track record of dumb actions. I think he’s perfectly capable of doing as well as saying dumb things.

It’s true. With that logic a toddler would make the ideal President. And it seems that’s the argument Trump is putting forth through his words and actions.

 

[Michael68]

The contortions that people go through to justify Trump’s statements that clearly show he is not fit to hold the most powerful position in the world amaze me.

The media has sunk to a real low with this. Left wing conspiring with the media to get their weak candidate in.

 

[AbideWithMe]

I feel like I should point out he’s never held political office before, therefore no track record of dumb actions. I think he’s perfectly capable of doing as well as saying dumb things.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[tomarin]

The media has sunk to a real low with this. Left wing conspiring with the media to get their weak candidate in.

They clearly have a bias towards Clinton, yet no one forces Trump to carry on the way he does.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I feel like I should point out he’s never held political office before, therefore no track record of dumb actions. I think he’s perfectly capable of doing as well as saying dumb things.

My point being,HC has a proven record of being an abysmal failure as SofS .She has made imprudent decisions that are playing out as we speak,re our national security,etc.It is easy to pig pile on DT for his lack of political experience,Howerver his business acumen will bode well for him as a POTUS.Additionally,if he surrounds himself with competent and experienced staff,which btw he has already shown himself to be capable of by way of his VP pick,I believe he will do well.The alternative is frightening

 

[AbideWithMe]

The funny thing is…
All these problems Donald Trump faces are due to self inflicted wounds. These are all unforced errors…not the media or his rivals setting a trap.
Whether or not it was a joke (I personally don’t think he was inciting gun owners to go after Mrs. Clinton) he should have learnt by now that as a candidate your words carry a lot of weight. And if he becomes the president, he will have to learn to weigh his words as they will carry even more weight.
He is running against someone who is very unpopular, all he has to do is show a little restraint and discipline and he will have no problems. He must be giving his campaign a headache.

I agree, though I do think he was trying to make a totally inappropriate joke about assassination.

He lacks wisdom; at his age, that the one thing he should have increased in. I will not vote for Clinton, either, but I do think she has more sense than he does.

 

[PatrickKennedy]

As he, himself, said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still vote for him. He’s a national embarrassment. (and international)

He is a laughing stock in Ireland for sure

 

[tomarin]

My point being,HC has a proven record of being an abysmal failure as SofS .She has made imprudent decisions that are playing out as we speak,re our national security,etc.It is easy to pig pile on DT for his lack of political experience,Howerver his business acumen will bode well for him as a POTUS.Additionally,if he surrounds himself with competent and experienced staff,which btw he has already shown himself to be capable of by way of his VP pick,I believe he will do well.The alternative is frightening

I guess it’s a question of which scenario you find more frightening, ultimately. I think of her more as a mediocrity than a failure. I regard him as an unpredictable person who often doesn’t seem to understand how things work outside of the real estate business. He runs businesses, but they go bankrupt; a lot of times when one aspect of his business empire is in trouble he makes it clear that he only rented his name to it and had nothing to do with actually running it (as with the casinos in Atlantic City). It may be true but it seems at odds with the way he routinely boasts about his business acumen (it also seems somewhat irresponsible). So I can’t say I’m a believer in his ability to run things, least of all something as complicated as the federal government, which he seems to not quite grasp the nuances of (the balance of powers).

He just seems to me more like a megalomaniac than anything else; at least Hillary is a known quantity, for all her flaws. I don’t relish the idea of voting for her, but I can’t in good conscience vote for someone as shallow and self-involved as Trump either. It’s quite a pickle we’re in!

 

[Thorolfr]