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Al_Moritz said:
It seems in the eye of the beholder which one is which. 😉
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I suppose you aren’t against abortion, redefinition of marriage to include homosexuality, higher taxes, or an increase of power in the hands of the progressive elite?

And perhaps you won’t mind if the president behaves towards terrorists the way she did at Benghazi. Just let them win.
 
dshix said:
I suppose you aren’t against abortion, redefinition of marriage to include homosexuality, higher taxes, or an increase of power in the hands of the progressive elite?

And perhaps you won’t mind if the president behaves towards terrorists the way she did at Benghazi. Just let them win.
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Sigh. I won’t get into another one of those debates that we have had ad nauseam over the last few years at CAF.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
The following (faulty) observations are merely a deflection. They do not address the question of whether a Trump presidency is dangerous (as described in the open letter from 50 Republican security experts), which is the subject of this thread and the subject of the specific post you responded to.

The question should be “Are they as dangerous as Trump?”. The answer is “no”.

Did you read the letter in which those reasons were listed?

…or so fear mongers would have you believe. Actually, it is not a “disaster”.

You are quite free with the term “disaster”. However you are more lacking in details than the security experts who say Trump is dangerous.

Isn’t education mostly a state matter? Again, where is the “disaster”?

I don’t recall Trump’s platform including money for massive construction of roads and bridges. I suspect it will be more of a disaster after a Trump administration (provided the country is still here!)

You really over-use that word.

Deflection. They did not gather to discuss your pet issues.

Stop the demand for heroin, and that will stop the supply.

Wrong. It’s one of the best.

True. But whose fault is that?

The money released to Iran was their own money that has been impounded without interest. It is not a “disaster” to try not to alienate everyone, as Trump would do.

Not sure what you mean by “uncontested”. If you mean the use of that specific term, perhaps. If you mean the actual movement and organization of ISIS and similar groups, no, they are most certainly contested.

Fear mongering.

That’s not the worst thing in the world.

It is not the government that is forcing them. It is the market.

They are not forced to pay anything for that.

Depends on where it was posted.

Because everyone wants an MBA rather than an engineering degree. MBAs are richly rewarded. Engineers are not. Sputnik scared us in the 1950’s into pushing science and math, and we excelled. Now we lost that drive. And who do we hold up for admiration? An engineer? A scientist? No. A businessman. Donald Trump. (“I want to be just like him when I grow up. I don’t have to study math. I just have to tell people ‘You’re fired’ and I can make a lot of money!”)
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MBA’s use ALL math ALL THE TIME.

Often the best MBA’s have engineering undergraduate degrees.

Without the math, people are vulnerable to statistical manipulation … just look at all the “baloney” going on with alleged man-made “anthropogenic”] global warming. Which they changed to man-made climate change. [Did you read the East Anglia emails? They reveal a ten-year back stage campaign to deceive the public with phoney statistical manipulation. They can be purchased from Amazon.]

All of this has been codified when someone wrote:

When the logic is against you, use the facts.

When the facts are against you, use the logic.

When both the facts AND the logic are against you … then just make stuff up.

If you can’t blind them with brilliance, then baffle them with “baloney”.

You too can become a “PowerPoint Ranger” and dazzle the folks with your color choices.

By the way, at his talk yesterday in Florida before NAHB, Trump had a black and white graphic on home ownership. Check it out.

If my summarized eleven points don’t impress, you can always google them.

If Hillary gets in, then we are headed to become the next Venezuela:

clickondetroit.com/news/venezuela-food-crisis-deepens-as-shipments-plummet
 
Running our country is business. Real currency and not monopoly money as it has been treated by non-business presidents.

Mr. Trump is a businessman and that is what our country needs.

Have you seen the national debt counter. It climbs so fast every second that it’s hard to read but I believe it is around $15,000.00 per half second.
 
After doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on his statement that Obama founded ISIS, and denying that he was speaking figuratively, this morning Trump is backing off of his ISIS comments and saying it was all a joke. Bizarre.
 
haljoseph said:
Running our country is business. Real currency and not monopoly money as it has been treated by non-business presidents.

Mr. Trump is a businessman and that is what our country needs.

Have you seen the national debt counter. It climbs so fast every second that it’s hard to read but I believe it is around $15,000.00 per half second.
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Trump said in his last interview with CNBC (a day or two ago) that he wants to increase the national debt. He said this is a good time to borrow money and the US should borrow much more money and use it to fix infrastructure and for increased military spending. So if deficit spending is an important issue to you, Trump is not the guy. He wants to spend more than the Dems.
 
TMC said:
After doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on his statement that Obama founded ISIS, and denying that he was speaking figuratively, this morning Trump is backing off of his ISIS comments and saying it was all a joke. Bizarre.
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This is sort of like someone saying don’t think about pink elephants. You can come back and say you didn’t mean it, but now the other person is thinking about pink elephants, are they possible, why shouldn’t I think about pink elephants, etc.

Maybe not bizarre, but excellent example of manipulation.
 
TMC said:
After doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on his statement that Obama founded ISIS, and denying that he was speaking figuratively, this morning Trump is backing off of his ISIS comments and saying it was all a joke. Bizarre.
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Bloomberg politics is making the case for sun downers syndrome. And this was before he took this statement back.
 
TMC said:
After doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on his statement that Obama founded ISIS, and denying that he was speaking figuratively, this morning Trump is backing off of his ISIS comments and saying it was all a joke. Bizarre.
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Trump said it was “sarcasm” in Twitter. I think Trump and Clinton should both toned it down. Although there is some diverging views about how Hillary Clinton meant these comments, this is Politifact’s take. In one of the Democratic debates, Hillary Clinton said according to PolitiFact, “He is becoming ISIS’s best recruiter. They are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.” Yet according to Politifact, there was a video that came out AFTER Hillary Clinton made those comments that had Donald Trump in, although it wasn’t by ISIS but Al Shabaab, and according to Politifact, "Clinton had no way of knowing about the Al Shabaab video before she spoke. "

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jan/05/new-video-or-not-clinton-claim-about-isis-using-tr/

There was an ISIS made video that had Barack Obama, John McCain and Bill Clinton in: edition.cnn.com/2015/12/22/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-isis-video/

I also saw on Fox News, Hillary Clinton has also said Donald Trump is, “recruiting sergeant for ISIS” in an interview she did on Business Insider.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Trump said it was “sarcasm” in Twitter. I think Trump and Clinton should both toned it down. Although there is some diverging views about how Hillary Clinton meant these comments, this is Politifact’s take. In one of the Democratic debates, Hillary Clinton said according to PolitiFact, “He is becoming ISIS’s best recruiter. They are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.” Yet according to Politifact, there was a video that came out AFTER Hillary Clinton made those comments that had Donald Trump in, although it wasn’t by ISIS but Al Shabaab, and according to Politifact, "Clinton had no way of knowing about the Al Shabaab video before she spoke. "

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jan/05/new-video-or-not-clinton-claim-about-isis-using-tr/

There was an ISIS made video that had Barack Obama, John McCain and Bill Clinton in: edition.cnn.com/2015/12/22/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-isis-video/

I also saw on Fox News, Hillary Clinton has also said Donald Trump is, “recruiting sergeant for ISIS” in an interview she did on Business Insider.
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Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton has failed at everything she has ever touched.

She was “co-president” for eight years.

Major accomplishment was destroying so many women for “bimbo eruptions”.

Then she was Senator from New York.

Was able to rename a post office.

Secretary of State.

Visited 117 countries.

Perpetual state of jet lag.

One accomplishment. Collected hundreds of millions of dollars for the Clinton Foundation, which is about 80% self-enrichment. Still waiting for the IRS audit of that fiasco.

Sold 50% of U.S. uranium to Russia and reaped a $145 million commission check.

Turns out her BFF has the critical missing emails. Huma.

Now Judicial Watch has gotten copies of those missing emails, that Hillary said didn’t exist.

There is a web site with the list of her associates who turned up dead.

And some people think she would be a good president.

Seriously?

She would complete Obama’s vision of bringing us to Venezuela.
 
Thorolfr said:
I have no doubt that he’s trying to win the election but a lot of times I’m not at all certain what he’s trying to say since he seems to be a master of innuendo and vaguely suggestive statements. I have no idea if he’s just sloppy and inarticulate with his words (which isn’t something we need in a president, either) or if he’s sending an oblique or coded message to some of his supporters (i.e. “dog whistle politics”) that he can later deny was his intended message.
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Instead of relying on CNN, actually watch a video of his whole talk.

Trump is very skilled at television and has won awards for his decades on television.

Seriously, watch his presentations at rallies. In fact at his NAHB presentation in Florida, he didn’t even need to use a teleprompter.
 
haljoseph said:
Running our country is business. Real currency and not monopoly money as it has been treated by non-business presidents.

Mr. Trump is a businessman and that is what our country needs.

Have you seen the national debt counter. It climbs so fast every second that it’s hard to read but I believe it is around $15,000.00 per half second.
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He is going to jack up the national debt then force the people with US debt to take a haircut because nothing is as good for the country as triggering a Depression. Did I mention much of the people holding them are American citizens or institutions?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Instead of relying on CNN, actually watch a video of his whole talk.

Trump is very skilled at television and has won awards for his decades on television.

Seriously, watch his presentations at rallies. In fact at his NAHB presentation in Florida, he didn’t even need to use a teleprompter.
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His show"s production team had been nominated for an Emmy. He doesn’t seem to have an Emmy.

He was also nominated for Teen’s Choice Award, bit didn’t win.

He did win a Razzie, for worst actor.

imdb.com/name/nm0874339/awards
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton has failed at everything she has ever touched.

She was “co-president” for eight years.

Major accomplishment was destroying so many women for “bimbo eruptions”.

Then she was Senator from New York.

Was able to rename a post office.

Secretary of State.

Visited 117 countries.

Perpetual state of jet lag.

One accomplishment. Collected hundreds of millions of dollars for the Clinton Foundation, which is about 80% self-enrichment. Still waiting for the IRS audit of that fiasco.

Sold 50% of U.S. uranium to Russia and reaped a $145 million commission check.

Turns out her BFF has the critical missing emails. Huma.

Now Judicial Watch has gotten copies of those missing emails, that Hillary said didn’t exist.

There is a web site with the list of her associates who turned up dead.

And some people think she would be a good president.

Seriously?

She would complete Obama’s vision of bringing us to Venezuela.
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Exactly! Add to that her health issues,which are troubling to say the least.:eek:
 
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