LeafByNiggle
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I said eight years as a state senator. In any case, that’s more than zero years.
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7_Sorrows
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You need to reread your post or recheck facts.
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Al_Moritz
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What if Trump won’t accept defeat?
As their nominee unravels, Republicans worry where his scorched-earth, rigged-election rhetoric leads the GOP and the country.
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“Among the values most necessary for a functioning democracy is the peaceful transition of power that’s gone on uninterrupted since 1797. What enables that is the acceptance of the election’s outcome by the losers,” said Steve Schmidt, the GOP operative who was John McCain’s campaign strategist in 2008.
“Here you have a candidate after a terrible three weeks, which has all been self-inflicted, saying the only way we lose is if it’s ‘rigged’ or stolen — in a media culture where people increasingly don’t buy into generally accepted facts and turn to places to have their opinions validated where there’s no wall between extreme and mainstream positions. That’s an assault on some of the pillars that undergird our system. People need to understand just how radical a departure this is from the mean of American politics.”
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“The damage this is going to do to various institutions is going to be long term,” said Charlie Sykes,** a prominent conservative radio host** in Milwaukee who has been one of the country’s most outspoken and consistent anti-Trump voices. “How do you restore civil discourse after all of this? He is a post-modern authoritarian who’s in the process of delegitimizing every institution — the media, the ballot box — that can be a check on him.”
Sykes, who is open about his growing discomfort with the increasingly partisan media landscape and reductive, zero-sum political culture he and his more strident cohorts have helped create, views Trump’s talk of “rigged” systems and its subsequent validation and amplification by outlets like Breitbart as “dangerous.”
“There’s a sizable portion of his fan base that will believe these things, and it’s toxic to our democracy,” he continued. “You’re basically taking ideas and voices that have been on the fringes — justifiably — and Donald Trump is bringing them squarely into the mainstream and weaponizing them. This is something we’ve not had to confront before. At one time there were responsible voices that would have drawn some lines that would have kept these voices from dominating our discourse; and they don’t exist now.”
More at the link.
As their nominee unravels, Republicans worry where his scorched-earth, rigged-election rhetoric leads the GOP and the country.
…]
“Among the values most necessary for a functioning democracy is the peaceful transition of power that’s gone on uninterrupted since 1797. What enables that is the acceptance of the election’s outcome by the losers,” said Steve Schmidt, the GOP operative who was John McCain’s campaign strategist in 2008.
“Here you have a candidate after a terrible three weeks, which has all been self-inflicted, saying the only way we lose is if it’s ‘rigged’ or stolen — in a media culture where people increasingly don’t buy into generally accepted facts and turn to places to have their opinions validated where there’s no wall between extreme and mainstream positions. That’s an assault on some of the pillars that undergird our system. People need to understand just how radical a departure this is from the mean of American politics.”
…]
“The damage this is going to do to various institutions is going to be long term,” said Charlie Sykes,** a prominent conservative radio host** in Milwaukee who has been one of the country’s most outspoken and consistent anti-Trump voices. “How do you restore civil discourse after all of this? He is a post-modern authoritarian who’s in the process of delegitimizing every institution — the media, the ballot box — that can be a check on him.”
Sykes, who is open about his growing discomfort with the increasingly partisan media landscape and reductive, zero-sum political culture he and his more strident cohorts have helped create, views Trump’s talk of “rigged” systems and its subsequent validation and amplification by outlets like Breitbart as “dangerous.”
“There’s a sizable portion of his fan base that will believe these things, and it’s toxic to our democracy,” he continued. “You’re basically taking ideas and voices that have been on the fringes — justifiably — and Donald Trump is bringing them squarely into the mainstream and weaponizing them. This is something we’ve not had to confront before. At one time there were responsible voices that would have drawn some lines that would have kept these voices from dominating our discourse; and they don’t exist now.”
More at the link.
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Monte_RCMS
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LeafByNiggle
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Yes, give me a head start from my dad with $250-$300 million and I can eventually employ tens of thousands of people too. And Trump did not even do especially well in that either, according to this research.
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lmachine
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LeafByNiggle said eight years as an Illinois state senator and four years as a US senator. They are correct. I’m not sure what your issue with their post is.
Mary_Gail_36
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nytimes.com/2016/08/22/business/media/sean-hannity-turns-adviser-in-the-service-of-donald-trump.html?_r=0
Interesting article.
Here is a snippet:
Donald” TV show.
Truthfully, I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh. (in the car driving to pick up my kids). One can agree or disagree with Rush, but he is an entertaining speaker, he’s droll, he’s funny at times. He uses satire well.
Hannity’s show would follow. He’d have similar talking points, but none of the charm. I actually stopped listening to him after the “I’m a good Catholic, but birth control should be permitted” fiasco about 10 years or so ago.
Interesting article.
Here is a snippet:
I feel it is ironic that there is talk about media bias against Trump. Yet Hannity basically has the “I
Donald” TV show.Truthfully, I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh. (in the car driving to pick up my kids). One can agree or disagree with Rush, but he is an entertaining speaker, he’s droll, he’s funny at times. He uses satire well.
Hannity’s show would follow. He’d have similar talking points, but none of the charm. I actually stopped listening to him after the “I’m a good Catholic, but birth control should be permitted” fiasco about 10 years or so ago.
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Jeanne_S
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I haven’t listened to or watched Hannity for years.Actually,I haven’t watched Fox News since 2012.I do watch a sister station of Fox News that features Lou Dobbs ,different conservative hosts.Much more dialed back and easier to listen to and watch. Actually I have a,ways though of Sean Hannity as a bit of a lightweight.nytimes.com/2016/08/22/business/media/sean-hannity-turns-adviser-in-the-service-of-donald-trump.html?_r=0
Interesting article.
Here is a snippet:
I feel it is ironic that there is talk about media bias against Trump. Yet Hannity basically has the “I
Truthfully, I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh. (in the car driving to pick up my kids). One can agree or disagree with Rush, but he is an entertaining speaker, he’s droll, he’s funny at times. He uses satire well.
Hannity’s show would follow. He’d have similar talking points, but none of the charm. I actually stopped listening to him after the “I’m a good Catholic, but birth control should be permitted” fiasco about 10 years or so ago.
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Strydersroom
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The really sad thing about it
is that so many Trump supporters are so emotionally invested in him
that they can’t acknowledge, or even see, what he really is.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this:
If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth.
The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge,
even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken.
Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
Carl Sagan
is that so many Trump supporters are so emotionally invested in him
that they can’t acknowledge, or even see, what he really is.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this:
If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth.
The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge,
even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken.
Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
Carl Sagan
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Jeanne_S
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Wow,this definitely describes the die hard Dem base !
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oneofmany
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catholicvote.org/dear-archbishop-chaput-trump-is-clearly-better-than-hillary/
Dear Archbishop Chaput: Trump is Clearly Better than Hillary
Dear Archbishop Chaput: Trump is Clearly Better than Hillary
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Al_Moritz
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I suppose you don’t see the irony of your post, do you?
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Theo520
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What you describe are multiple branches to a tree, not one true church. If a Baptist or AOG thought the RCC was the true church, they would have become Catholic. They think the RCC is a diseased branch. I’d bet the Trump spokesperson was Baptist not Lutheran.
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ringil
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Ridgerunner
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From what little I have been told by Methodists or Lutherans, some literally think they are “one” with the Catholic Church, but just a sort of “misunderstood” sub-group. But I don’t think that’s anywhere near a majority belief.
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Thorolfr
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Yeah, for some reason, all the people who call Obama “Barak Hussein Obama”, don’t call Mr. Trump “Donald John Trump”. I wonder why that is since middle names seem to be so important to them? And I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone here in CAF call Clinton “Hillary Diane Clinton”, either.
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zz912
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Building a successful business that employs a lot of people is not a noble accomplishment worthy of praise? Why not?
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Michael68
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Just a reminder of how unchristian this man is. Its even in his name! He always supports Islam and and has called for Christian’s to be forced to go against their beliefs. That’s why I say Barak Hussein ObamaYeah, for some reason, all the people who call Obama “Barak Hussein Obama”, don’t call Mr. Trump “Donald John Trump”. I wonder why that is since middle names seem to be so important to them? And I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone here in CAF call Clinton “Hillary Diane Clinton”, either.
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Strydersroom
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Reported. sigh Obama is a Christian. He’s not forcing anyone to go against their beliefs, please stop.
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Monkey1976
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A Christian who praises and defends Islam at every turn. As for “not forcing anyone to go against their beliefs”, you might have missed that minor part of the ACA regulations - entirely decided by the Executive branch - which forces groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor to provide contraceptive coverage against their conscience.
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