Trump Uses Mount Rushmore Speech to Deliver Divisive Culture War Message

[JonNC]

LeafByNiggle:

Systemic racism is more like cancer than a scab.

How about defining what you mean by systemic racism and citing what you think are its most glaring examples?

Of note why you wait the response. Virtually all “systems” In the United States are controlled by progressives.

Nearly all of the media.

Virtually all of social media and tech.

Virtually all of the education system- high ed, US and most state Departments of education, large city school systems and teachers unions.

Most federal departments, despite who a Republican President appoints secretary - State, DoJ, EPA, etc.

Virtually all large city governments including their police departments.

Entertainment.

Did I miss any?
If there is “systemic” racism, and essentially all of the systems are controlled by progressive Democrats, it is obvious who is at fault.

 

[Ender]

Of note while you wait the response.

I had previously challenged two posters who equated the “far right” with the “far left” to identify what they considered politically relevant far right positions (as distinguished from simply “right” positions). I’m still waiting for those responses. It is easy to assert things. The difficulty is in substantiating the claims one makes.

 

[PaulinVA]

If there is “systemic” racism, and essentially all of the systems are controlled by progressive Democrats, it is obvious who is at fault.

Yeah, people.

Why the need to make political points instead of just admitting there is systemic racism and we need to work towards eliminating it?

 

[Ender]

Why the need to make political points instead of just admitting there is systemic racism and we need to work towards eliminating it?

Because actual examples of systemic racism originate from the left, not the right, and it is important to make that point. Here are some examples:

• NBC Universal chairman Cesar Conde has just said that the percentage of white employees will be reduced from its current number (74%) to 50%. White men will be reduced from 38% to 25%, and while their number will be permitted to fall below that value, it will not be permitted to rise above it.
• Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology is in trouble because it admits so few black and Hispanic students (below 3%). The problem for those who object to this is that it is not whites who are filling up the school, but Asian Americans. The issue is not the lack of minorities, but the lack of the right minorities.
• In 1996 a California referendum added this to the state’s constitution:
  “The State shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.”
  The Democrat assembly, however, finds this non-discrimination approach objectionable and has added a referendum to the upcoming November ballot to repeal it.

So I guess we have to admit that systemic racism does exist, and it is fostered by those who profess most loudly that they disapprove of it.

 

[JonNC]

Yeah, people.

Why the need to make political points instead of just admitting there is systemic racism and we need to work towards eliminating it?

Where are they painting “Black Lives Matter” on the streets? In front of Biden’s house? Pelosi’s mansion? Cuomo’s mansion? The mayor’s office in Minneapolis?

No. In front of Trump Tower and the WH. Why do you think that is, Paul?
I’m thinking the left is trying to make “political points”. Don’t you?

How is falsely accusing Trump working toward eliminating it?

 

[PaulinVA]

NBC Universal chairman Cesar Conde has just said that the percentage of white employees will be reduced from its current number (74%) to 50%. White men will be reduced from 38% to 25%, and while their number will be permitted to fall below that value, it will not be permitted to rise above it.

Some things are just over the top, aren’t they?

That would be racial dlsrminiation, in my book.

Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology is in trouble because it admits so few black and Hispanic students (below 3%). The problem for those who object to this is that it is not whites who are filling up the school, but Asian Americans. The issue is not the lack of minorities, but the lack of the right minorities.

TJ has had this problem for a while. People come from Korea with their children for the sole purpose of going there. Admission is score-based, and, well, the asian students do better on the tests. Harvard has a similar problem.

So I guess we have to admit that systemic racism does exist, and it is fostered by those who profess most loudly that they disapprove of it.

I really don’t care who perpetuates it. It just needs to stop.

 

[PaulinVA]

Where are they painting “Black Lives Matter” on the streets? In front of Biden’s house? Pelosi’s mansion? Cuomo’s mansion? The mayor’s office in Minneapolis?

No. In front of Trump Tower and the WH. Why do you think that is, Paul?
I’m thinking the left is trying to make “political points”. Don’t you?

I was actually referring to posters here, not in real life.

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

Where are they painting “Black Lives Matter” on the streets? In front of Biden’s house? Pelosi’s mansion? Cuomo’s mansion? The mayor’s office in Minneapolis?

No. In front of Trump Tower and the WH. Why do you think that is, Paul?
I’m thinking the left is trying to make “political points”. Don’t you?

I was actually referring to posters here, not in real life.

Do you think Democrat/ progressive posters have spent this entire situation trying to make political points?

 

[PaulinVA]

Do you think Democrat/ progressive posters have spent this entire situation trying to make political points?

I was referring to this:

If there is “systemic” racism, and essentially all of the systems are controlled by progressive Democrats, it is obvious who is at fault.

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

Do you think Democrat/ progressive posters have spent this entire situation trying to make political points?

I was referring to this:

If there is “systemic” racism, and essentially all of the systems are controlled by progressive Democrats, it is obvious who is at fault.

It is an accurate statement. I find it curious that you won’t apply your plea for not trying to score political points against the left.
Trump is being blamed for Minneapolis, for Atlanta, etc. he had nothing to do with it.

 

[JonNC]

I really don’t care who perpetuates it. It just needs to stop.

It won’t stop if one is unwilling to identify those behind it.

 

[PaulinVA]

It is an accurate statement. I find it curious that you won’t apply your plea for not trying to score political points against the left.
Trump is being blamed for Minneapolis, for Atlanta, etc. he had nothing to do with it.

Ah, here you got me.

Trump isn’t directly responsible for Minneapolis. But, he is directly responsible for clearing protesters from Lafayette Park so he could stand in front of a church with a Bible.

 

[JonNC]

Ah, here you got me.

Trump isn’t directly responsible for Minneapolis. But, he is directly responsible for clearing protesters from Lafayette Park so he could stand in front of a church with a Bible.

So, for that, the entirety of the riots and looting is Trump’s fault?
You say I got you there, but you still didn’t apply your plea to the left.

By the way, Trump isn’t responsible for Minneapolis indirectly, directly, or at all.

 

[MikeInVA]

But, he is directly responsible for clearing protesters from Lafayette Park so he could stand in front of a church with a Bible.

I have no problem with the president clearing unruly people (I actually don’t think that he had any say one way or the other. That was accomplished by his protective service folks).

As I remember it, he was forced to stand outside the church because the bishop denied him entry.

 

[JonNC]

As I remember it, he was forced to stand outside the church because the bishop denied him entry.

Well, that and it was burned the day before by rioters.

 

[Ender]

I really don’t care who perpetuates it. It just needs to stop.

If you want it to stop then you should condemn those (and only those) who engage in it, and not accept the implication that this is a (politically) equally shared sin.

 

[PaulinVA]

If you want it to stop then you should condemn those (and only those) who engage in it, and not accept the implication that this is a (politically) equally shared sin.

Calling for an end to viewing an endemic issue through a political lens by looking at the solution through a political lens is…strange.

 

[Ender]

Calling for an end to viewing an endemic issue through a political lens by looking at the solution through a political lens is…strange.

If racism is systemic one would think it exists in…systems, organizations that need be altered. If those organizations are political, like the California Democrat party, then a political solution is necessary. It is not clear what can be done about the racism at NBC other than call it out and condemn it, but, inasmuch as politicians have a powerful megaphone, it would seem appropriate to enlist them in that effort.

To change from “systemic racism” to “endemic racism” seems itself unhelpful. It implies what cannot be claimed, as a specific claim would require actual evidence, which so far appears to exist solely in the minds of those who levy the accusation. In any event, the charge being contested was the existence of systemic racism, which, where it can be identified, seems to come entirely from the left.

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[LeafByNiggle]

Trump is being blamed for Minneapolis, for Atlanta, etc. he had nothing to do with it.

You are right about this much. The problem that led to the murder of George Floyd (Minneapolis) and the killing of Rayshard Brooks (Atlanta) were festering long before Trump came to power. There are plenty of other things to blame Trump for without throwing in this one.

 

[MikeInVA]

Trump came to power.

I believe what you meant to say was, “was lawfully elected to the office of the president.”