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Yes, as there are today about Trump, and yet we see history repeating itself, only this time it is on the right side of the aisle.
I’d be much more concerned with voters espousing Christian values but voting for the likes of Hillary or Obama rather than worrying so much about Trump’s shifting stances on the issues, in the end, he was never in a position to legislate.
 
I agree, and never said numbers matters. I simply and citing the numbers to make a point. Rubio is for life in all instances and is against abortion in all cases. Santorum was too, but he got nowhere.
Yes, poor Santorum. I imagine this election cycle must have been quite a shock to the guy who came in second last time around. I thought Rubio had said he’d support legislation that allowed abortion in the case of the mother’s life?
 
Not all opinions are equal, nor are all even Christian. The problem is that now people feel free to use language and characterizations that speak to the ugliest and basest aspects of humanity – all in an attempt to reject political correctness. It would be wise for us not to chuck the baby out with the bath water.
That is what is so sad, speaking as a conservative who hates political correctness. Of course it dramatically overreaches into today’s society through media, education, business, law. I actually get where Trump voters are coming from, which makes it excruciating to watch this GOP suicide at their hands. A Trump nomination alienates so many concerned voters on this issue, right and left. And the GOP has so many good quality options (Rubio; Cruz; Kasich) to get a more conservative White House and Supreme Court, to start to responsibly shift our country’s culture to the center - we all coexist; we don’t sue each other about baking cakes; we go to another baker. (to quote Kasich)

We all reject racism, xenophobia. Trump hurts the GOP brand to no end; he opens the door to extremism; it doesn’t matter what he believes, he irresponsibly feeds this frenzy because it motivates his voting demographic. It is unethical. (to me that alone is a ‘disqualifier’)
 
I’d be much more concerned with voters espousing Christian values but voting for the likes of Hillary or Obama rather than worrying so much about Trump’s shifting stances on the issues, in the end, he was never in a position to legislate.
Why would a voter trust a candidate who speaks on policies he can’t possibly enact and issues over which he has little to no control?
 
Yes, poor Santorum. I imagine this election cycle must have been quite a shock to the guy who came in second last time around. I thought Rubio had said he’d support legislation that allowed abortion in the case of the mother’s life?
Rubio did say that because he feels any possible chance at saving even one life is worth taking–but he personally wants a ban on all legal abortions. Imagine that.
 
That is what is so sad, speaking as a conservative who hates political correctness. Of course it dramatically overreaches into today’s society through media, education, business, law. I actually get where Trump voters are coming from, which makes it excruciating to watch this GOP suicide at their hands. A Trump nomination alienates so many concerned voters on this issue, right and left. And the GOP has so many good quality options (Rubio; Cruz; Kasich) to get a more conservative White House and Supreme Court, to start to responsibly shift our country’s culture to the center - we all coexist; we don’t sue each other about baking cakes; we go to another baker. (to quote Kasich)

We all reject racism, xenophobia. Trump hurts the GOP brand to no end; he opens the door to extremism; it doesn’t matter what he believes, he irresponsibly feeds this frenzy because it motivates his voting demographic. It is unethical. (to me that alone is a ‘disqualifier’)
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That is what is so sad, speaking as a conservative who hates political correctness. Of course it dramatically overreaches into today’s society through media, education, business, law. I actually get where Trump voters are coming from, which makes it excruciating to watch this GOP suicide at their hands. A Trump nomination alienates so many concerned voters on this issue, right and left. And the GOP has so many good quality options (Rubio; Cruz; Kasich) to get a more conservative White House and Supreme Court, to start to responsibly shift our country’s culture to the center - we all coexist; we don’t sue each other about baking cakes; we go to another baker. (to quote Kasich)

We all reject racism, xenophobia. Trump hurts the GOP brand to no end; he opens the door to extremism; it doesn’t matter what he believes, he irresponsibly feeds this frenzy because it motivates his voting demographic. It is unethical. (to me that alone is a ‘disqualifier’)
I agree regarding Trump’s damaging of the GOP brand. I think he’s giving the impression that the old stereotypes about Republicans are actually true.
 
A Trump nomination alienates so many concerned voters on this issue, right and left.
How can you say that when there is voter turnout on the republican side the like of which has never been seen? Trump is winning more votes in the primaries than the total number of voters in 2012 in some instances.

Romney lost, twice! Trump is going to win.
 
You hope pro-life Catholics won’t be firm in their conscience and won’t want to support the promotion of the nation’s largest abortion provider? It’s called “non-negotiable” for a reason.
If they took out abortion from Planned Parenthood, they would not be America’s largest abortion provider would they? I don’t like Planned Parenthood either, however, every step in the pro-life struggle is often fighting for one little thing and making compromises.
 
People like to take the stance that Romney lost it himself. It was we the people, the very ones that are so angry this time, that caused Romney’s lost. He was a good candidate and a hundred levels better than Obama, but Republicans did not vote in enough numbers for him.

People like to blame Romney for what was THEIR failure–we the people let ourselves down by not electing Romney.
So it’s the people’s fault for not voting for a candidate that did nothing to inspire them, so they are going for a candidate that actually inspire them and that’s a problem why?
 
So it’s the people’s fault for not voting for a candidate that did nothing to inspire them, so they are going for a candidate that actually inspire them and that’s a problem why?
Not only this, but there are actually Obama voters on this forum who criticize catholics who vote Trump. How funny!
 
How can you say that when there is voter turnout on the republican side the like of which has never been seen? Trump is winning more votes in the primaries than the total number of voters in 2012 in some instances.

Romney lost, twice! Trump is going to win.
I’ve mentioned a few times, the number Trump is drawing, it be Dallas, UCF or wherever.

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There is such a picture, we have not seen a candidate draw these kinds of crowds, consistently at least in a very long time if ever.
 
So it’s the people’s fault for not voting for a candidate that did nothing to inspire them, so they are going for a candidate that actually inspire them and that’s a problem why?
Yes, because too many people on the right search for the perfect candidate, rather than voting for a good candidate. Democrats don’t do that–they fight over who they want as a nominee, but then during the general election they come together because they have one single laser focus–to beat the Republicans. For years the Republicans have been far more divided than the Democrats.

Can any rational person on the right argue that we would not have been better off with Romney as President these last three years+?
 
Yes, because too many people on the right search for the perfect candidate, rather than voting for a good candidate. Democrats don’t do that–they fight over who they want as a nominee, but then during the general election they come together because they have one single laser focus–to beat the Republicans. For years the Republicans have been far more divided than the Democrats.

Can any rational person on the right argue that we would not have been better off with Romney as President these last three years+?
I kind of figured he would be horrible, so I guess I would. But I’m not one of those people that take Fox News for gospel and see generally positive trends in the economy and foreign policy under President Obama’s administration.
 
Yes, all true, and he is a huge celebrity. Americans love celebrities.
No he’s drawing the crowds because Americans are patriots. Whenever there is protestor in the crowd, people shout “USA, USA, USA!”

Why not give credit where credit is due? Obviously Trump is opposite of Obama on many things. you guys say Trump can’t win, and when we show Trump’s support numbers, you say he’s just a celebrity like Obama. Trump can never do anything right by you. You are concerned hillary will beat him, and then you are concerned he’s too much of a celebrity like Obama because he’s popular.
 
So it’s the people’s fault for not voting for a candidate that did nothing to inspire them, so they are going for a candidate that actually inspire them and that’s a problem why?
I guess it all comes down to what one is inspired BY. I can only speak for myself, but I bet others feel the same way–I look at this other than fiery speeches, invective, and promises I know they can’t keep. I look for a candidate with substance and sometimes they do not have the flamboyant personality, but rather a sense of quiet confidence.
 
Yes, all true, and he is a huge celebrity. Americans love celebrities.
In Texas? South Carolina and Louisiana and Florida? That I don’t buy; in fact, in the end, if I can say it, Trump is very much a Yankee. This is just a convenient excuse.
 
I guess it all comes down to what one is inspired BY. I can only speak for myself, but I bet others feel the same way–I look at this other than fiery speeches, invective, and promises I know they can’t keep. I look for a candidate with substance and sometimes they do not have the flamboyant personality, but rather a sense of quiet confidence.
Is there any Republican Presidential candidate left with substance? I don’t see it if there is. There certainly isn’t a President Reagan or Senator Goldwater.
 
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