Two more cardinals back Communion for divorced and remarried

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There are cases where a married Catholic couple would be allowed to get a civil divorce while retaining their sacramental marriage. This has happened in cases where physical abuse was an issue… But the Catholic Church does not allow the divorce of a sacramental marriage. The Church allows annulments, which means it was never a valid marriage to begin with.

You said the Church allows divorce. What did you mean?
The Church allows divorce, TEPO.

If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.CCC 2383

It does not allow divorce and remarriage.
 
The Church allows divorce, TEPO.

If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.CCC 2383

It does not allow divorce and remarriage.
sacramental marriages cannot be dissolved through divorce.
catholic.com/magazine/articles/did-jesus-allow-divorce

…in other words, once a Catholic couple becomes sacramentally bonded, their marriage can not be dissolved within this lifetime unless they get an annulment.
 
You said the Church allows divorce. What did you mean?
Which is correct:

A) The Catholic Church does not allow divorce.

B) The Catholic Church allows divorce.

The answer is: B.

That’s what I said in #739.

That’s what the Catechism says.

Lurkers may think that the CC professes that divorce is not allowed. I have corrected their misapprehension.
 
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Which is correct:

A) The Catholic Church does not allow divorce.

B) The Catholic Church allows divorce.

The answer is: B.

That’s what I said in #739.

That’s what the Catechism says.

Lurkers may think that the CC professes that divorce is not allowed. I have corrected their misapprehension.
Divorce isn’t allowed
 
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Divorce isn’t allowed
sigh

Buh-bye, TEPO.

Warning to Lurkers: do not read confuse what is being posted by TEPO as being actual teaching.

Divorce is certainly permitted. You can even receive communion if you are divorced, all other things being equal.

Divorce and re-marriage is not permitted.
 
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sigh

Buh-bye, TEPO.

Warning to Lurkers: do not read confuse what is being posted by TEPO as being actual teaching.

Divorce is certainly permitted. You can even receive communion if you are divorced, all other things being equal.

Divorce and re-marriage is not permitted.
Lurkers, please understand that even after civil divorce, a married couple will always be considered ‘one flesh’ in the eyes of God and the Church. The relationship does not end in this lifetime.
 
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Lurkers, please understand that even after civil divorce, a married couple will always be considered ‘one flesh’ in the eyes of God and the Church. The relationship does not end in this lifetime.
This lurker’s Enquiring Mind wants to know …

Whether or not they are considered “one flesh” by God, does the church prohibit Communion for them?

I see statements go by each other that supposedly counter each other but miss. Are we talking about eligibility to receive Communion? If so, then whether they are “one flesh” does not directly answer that.

I take status of lurker here because it’s a long thread and I have not read it. I jumped in near the end to see how it was panning out.

Plus I voted “yes” in the poll. If the Church accepts it, then who am I to oppose it? If she opposes it, then my willingness to have agreed to it does not constitute an accusation that they are wrong.

MS
 
This lurker’s Enquiring Mind wants to know …

Whether or not they are considered “one flesh” by God, does the church prohibit Communion for them?
If you married, became one flesh, divorced, then went to confession, you may receive Communion, as long as you have no other mortal sins on your soul.
 
An annulment can only declare that there was no marriage. It cannot be a “way out” for some who did contract a binding union of one flesh. The poster I was responding to was putting forth that the marriage was valid, but that one spouse was deserted. An annulment would not come into play in this hypothetical.
It’s a way out if the tribunal finds that one party was not truly believing of their vows. Most annulments are granted. I think I understand pretty well what annulment means and we are just going back and forth over semantics. 🙂
 
Plus I voted “yes” in the poll. If the Church accepts it, then who am I to oppose it? If she opposes it, then my willingness to have agreed to it does not constitute an accusation that they are wrong.

MS
i also voted yes for the same exact reason -the Church possesses the keys, and they have been given the authority to bind and loosen. People here have been throwing the term ‘sin’ around as if the Church cannot loosen the Canons. Apparently they know more than the Cardinals do. 😦
 
I don’t either…marriage 1 2 3 that’s ok with me, but 4, no more? Hmmmm…
I am very interested to know the reasoning behind this.
Mary.
Yep.

Orthodox Posters? What say you? What is the reasoning behind 2nd marriage = permissible. 3rd marriage = permissible. 4th marriage = prohibited?
 
If you married, became one flesh, divorced, then went to confession, you may receive Communion, as long as you have no other mortal sins on your soul.
So the confession would be for the divorce itself?

Or would this be if they went out and had unmarried sex after divorce – would that be the same sin as having unmarried sex before the first marriage? hmmm…

I never though about it much because I’m happy to have the experience of one long and fruitful marriage. My confessions would be primarily for the things I did before finally “doing the right thing.” :rolleyes:

MS
 
So the confession would be for the divorce itself?
Yes.
Or would this be if they went out and had unmarried sex after divorce
Also yes.
– would that be the same sin as having unmarried sex before the first marriage? hmmm…
I would think so.
I never though about it much because I’m happy to have the experience of one long and fruitful marriage. My confessions would be primarily for the things I did before finally “doing the right thing.” :rolleyes:
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I never though about it much because I’m happy to have the experience of one long and fruitful marriage. My confessions would be primarily for the things I did before finally “doing the right thing.” :rolleyes:
I’m taking psych classes. In one of them we are getting indoctrinated into the feminist mindset that all people should be androgynous. Femininity is traitorous in women and a sign of maturity for men. Masculin-ish behavior is Wrong on So Many Levels. I even identified myself as “an example of an androgynous individual” I had to describe “in detail” on last week’s quiz. (With this teacher, that can only be a good thing – and all she is to me is a “BS-to-class points” converter anyway. 😛 )

This makes me sensitive enough to notice that by allowing myself to use the “rolling eyes” smiley instead of an “ashamed” one, I have demonstrated my own failure to control my desire to dominate and manipulate women and savagely attack them verbally and emotionally at any chance. Not only that, I’m contributing to the culture of hatred and objectification of women that advances violent physical crime against them as well. :mad:

So I apologize to all who were seriously harmed by my use of the rolling eyes smiley, including all those women who are not yet enlightened enough to recognize the threat for what it is. Here is what I should have written in the first place, if I had ever learned anything about being a decent human being:

I never though about it much because I’m happy to have the experience of one long and fruitful marriage. My confessions would be primarily for the things I did before finally “doing the right thing.” :crying:

😃

Gosh if Church teachings can drive one mad, consider trying to reconcile Church teachings with getting a college degree these days. :rolleyes:
 
I’m taking psych classes. In one of them we are getting indoctrinated into the feminist mindset that all people should be androgynous. Femininity is traitorous in women and a sign of maturity for men. Masculin-ish behavior is Wrong on So Many Levels.

This makes me sensitive enough to notice that by allowing myself to use the “rolling eyes” smiley instead of an “ashamed” one, I have demonstrated my own failure to control my desire to dominate and manipulate women and savagely attack them verbally and emotionally at any chance. Not only that, I’m contributing to the culture of hatred and objectification of women that advances violent physical crime against them as well. :mad:

So I apologize to all who were seriously harmed by my use of the rolling eyes smiley, including all those women who are not yet enlightened enough to recognize the threat for what it is. Here is what I should have written in the first place, if I had ever learned anything about being a decent human being:

I never though about it much because I’m happy to have the experience of one long and fruitful marriage. My confessions would be primarily for the things I did before finally “doing the right thing.” :crying:

😃

Gosh if Church teachings can drive one mad, consider trying to reconcile Church teachings with getting a college degree these days. :rolleyes:
:D:p
 
Did you see my edit? I decided to “turn the other cheek” and self-identify as “androgynous” the other day on an essay quiz question.

So I guess I’m male only from a biological perspective now, and that can be fixed. 😉
 
Did you see my edit? I decided to “turn the other cheek” and self-identify as “androgynous” the other day on an essay quiz question.

So I guess I’m male only from a biological perspective now, and that can be fixed. 😉
Didn’t see it. Now I did. 🙂
 
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This makes me sensitive enough to notice that by allowing myself to use the “rolling eyes” smiley instead of an “ashamed” one, I have demonstrated my own failure to control my desire to dominate and manipulate women and savagely attack them verbally and emotionally at any chance. Not only that, I’m contributing to the culture of hatred and objectification of women that advances violent physical crime against them as well. :mad:
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I hope this is a facetious post. My head explodes when women think the way to make themselves stronger is by getting men to treat them better. If my strength as a woman depends on you, a man, controlling your desire to dominate and control me, I am still At your mercy. Women must be taught to empower themselves through strength of mind and courage. Women may be physically weaker than men, but that does not make them weak.

In the animal world, the alpha is not the physically strongest, the alpha is the one with Inner strength and force of will.

Is there any person in the bible stronger than Mary?
 
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