Two openly gay principals hired in same town: a first!

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RPConover:
Why on earth would you assume their sins would be anywhere near anyone’s kid?
The headline:

Gay principals soon take helm at both Newton high schools

Already their sexuality is an issue. Indeed, it is seen as cause for celebration.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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RPConover:
No it’s not common sense, since it’s a public school we’re speaking about. If you’re really that afraid of a gay principal then you can send your kids to a Catholic school. Done and done.

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Maybe I can’t afford Catholic school? So I have to have my kids exposed to avowed homosexual teachers and principals? Why? Because some people like to sin and want to teach other people’s kids that it is OK to sin? When did it become OK for teachers to advocate sin to kids in public school?
 
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gilliam:
Maybe I can’t afford Catholic school? So I have to have my kids exposed to avowed homosexual teachers and principals? Why? Because some people like to sin and want to teach other people’s kids that it is OK to sin? When did it become OK for teachers to advocate sin to kids in public school?
Your kids are going to be exposed to homosexuals no mater where they go. And actually all the principals want to do is run a school, not teach homosexuality. If you’re afraid your kids will “learn” homosexuality from being around a homosexual, you might want to keep them chained up in the house, because homosexuals are everywhere, I’m not condoning it, but this is reality.
 
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mlchance:
The headline:

Gay principals soon take helm at both Newton high schools

Already their sexuality is an issue. Indeed, it is seen as cause for celebration.

– Mark L. Chance.
Or maybe it’s making headlines because the media knows that it’s a subject that enrages people on both sides and they intend to take advantage of that.
 
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RPConover:
Or maybe it’s making headlines because the media knows that it’s a subject that enrages people on both sides and they intend to take advantage of that.
You mean to choke, choke, get people to buy their product? 😉
 
This is a tragedy. Anyone who believes that promoting homosexuals into positions of authority and influence over children does not send a message to these children that this “lifestyle” is healthy and morally acceptable is naive. How the students in the school feel about it is completely irrelevant. Their minds are still forming and are very susceptible to adult influence, in spite of what most students will admit (just check out any university campus to see how even much older students can be led by the nose by the opinion of faculty).

This is bad role modelling, to say the least.
A regrettable decision X 2.
 
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iceman:
This is a tragedy. Anyone who believes that promoting homosexuals into positions of authority and influence over children does not send a message to these children that this “lifestyle” is healthy and morally acceptable is naive. How the students in the school feel about it is completely irrelevant. Their minds are still forming and are very susceptible to adult influence, in spite of what most students will admit (just check out any university campus to see how even much older students can be led by the nose by the opinion of faculty).

This is bad role modelling, to say the least.
A regrettable decision X 2.
I don’t consider myself naive. As I said, my highschool principal was gay, and it never affected me or anyone I know in any way. No one ever mentioned it, thought about it or anything of the sort. I actually had totally forgotten that she was even gay until I read this topic. Either I’m really strong willed or your argument is a little far-fetched. Let’s not get over-imaginative, and give kids a little credit.
 
I should think of everything I wanna say so I can just do it in one post, huh? 😛 But I rememberfrom the age of 13 on I wanted as little as possible to do with middle-aged adults let alone middle-aged school facualty members. Maybe I was ust a bit rebellious, but a lot of teenagers are, and you couldn’t get me to listen to anything an adult said in the first place… then again I am pretty cool :cool:
 
Placing openly homosexual people in positions of authority, especially over children, is a Trojan horse that is blowing up in our faces. The intent is to present homosexual behavior as simply an equally healthy and socially positive alternative to heterosexual behavior and what better place to do this than in the school system. The affect is, at minimum, to influence individuals to be more receptive to this behavior, at least in others, and at worst, to encourage experimenting in this behavior possibly to the point of confusing same sex healthy attention with homosexual actions.

In spite of the plethora of homosexual and liberal left propoganda, there is no evidence to suggest that homosexuality is any more genetic than criminal behavior. Therefore, it is a choice like most of our behavior and an unhealthy - potentially fatal - one at that. Did the homosexual principals come with labels that their promoted lifestyle choice is harmful to your health (and spirit)?

It is time we recognized the important influence adults have on the lives of our children and the young and take steps to insure that very bad influences are, at least, minimized. Outlawing gay parades and expositions would be a good start and lessening their influence through the media would also help. There are things we can do. All we need are the will and courage to act. Speaking up is a good first step.
 
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gilliam:
Because they are “open” about being homosexual sinners. My guess is they are also “proud” about it. So if my kid was in their school, what do you think the chances are that they now have a role model, paid for by my tax dollars, to teach my kids that you can be “proud” of sinning.

Isn’t this common sense? :yup:
Yes, they quoted one of the new principals as saying he’s looking forward to working and marrying his partner in Massachusetts and being able to have his relationship acknowledged. He’s been vocal about his orientation and is speaking to the press about it - that makes a difference I think.
 
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RPConover:
Why on earth would you assume their sins would be anywhere near anyone’s kid? Do you talk up your sexuality at work?
The fact that their sexuality is in the newspaper means it’s already been talked up. This is highly inappropriate for the media to do. When a group identifies themselves primarily by their sexuality, it’s unwholesome and DISORDERED. They have rejected the dignity God endows them with and reduced themselves to nothing more than the sinful lifestyle they choose to engage in and thus have no business being around children. It doesn’t matter if it comes up in day to day conversation or not. The damage has been done with this news story. Conversely, when was the last time you ever heard of a heterosexual principal or teacher’ sexuality being splattered throughout the newspapers? Only when they do something wrong. Because it’s only news when it is wrong. Like in this case. :mad:
 
I remember that as a first year teacher there was a brouhaha about an unmarried teacher living with a guy. I needed a place to live and there was a shortage of apartments. I moved in with this woman and guy. He was gay and was an actor at a nearby theater. There were three bedrooms in this house, so it was all on the up and up.

We are not living in the 1800’s when the teachers had to live with families, light the wood stove, and stay spinsters if they wanted to teach. My goodness there were two gay teachers at my high school. Everybody knew it, but nobody was ever accosted by them. In fact, most people thought they were weird.

On the other hand, a married guy with two kids had a fling with a boy at the high school where I taught. He got fired and deservedly served some jail time.
 
Homosexuality is not contagious. Having a gay principal will not turn the students gay, anymore than getting a haircut by a gay person will somehow transfer “gay-ness” to the receipt of said haircut.

Live and let live. They haven’t hurt anyone (and probably won’t). My elementary school teachers never discussed their sexual lives with students - in fact, while I was in school, it was hard for me to imagine teachers as sexual beings at all.
 
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cheese_sdc:
Homosexuality is not contagious. Having a gay principal will not turn the students gay, anymore than getting a haircut by a gay person will somehow transfer “gay-ness” to the receipt of said haircut.

Live and let live. They haven’t hurt anyone (and probably won’t). My elementary school teachers never discussed their sexual lives with students - in fact, while I was in school, it was hard for me to imagine teachers as sexual beings at all.
You might be right but judging from the male principal’s comments about being proud to come to a state that will recognize his impending marriage, I’d be a wee concerned that that “proudness” will show up somewhere in his education philosophy.
 
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RPConover:
I don’t consider myself naive. As I said, my highschool principal was gay, and it never affected me or anyone I know in any way. No one ever mentioned it, thought about it or anything of the sort. I actually had totally forgotten that she was even gay until I read this topic. Either I’m really strong willed or your argument is a little far-fetched. Let’s not get over-imaginative, and give kids a little credit.
The fact that you keep saying that your principal was gay and you thought nothing of it is proof that it affects kids. You should think there is something wrong with it! It is sin! It should not be thought of as a normal thing that one can ignore and not even think much about.
 
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RPConover:
What on earth is wrong with that? Gay people aren’t allowed to have jobs?
I don’t think anyone is saying gay people shouldn’t have jobs or shouldn’t be able to support themselves. Gay people, that is sexually active homosexuals should not hold jobs where they are in a position of mentor or role model to impressionalble children or adolescents. I don’t believe they should hold these positions at colleges either.

How would you feel if ten years from now it was legal for men to marry underage boys (underage girls are allowed to get married) Should these men be allowed to hold positions in schools? Would you be saying "What, Pederasts aren’t allowed to have jobs?"


**Why do homosexuals feel the need to broadcast their sexual orientation? **
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RPConover:
Their sexual orientation really has nothing to do with the everyday running of a school… I wouldn’t worry about it affecting the students either, it’s not like the school principal is “cool”.
It’s not so much the everyday running of the school we need to worry about its the lasting impression these men will have on the students. Everytime one of these students thinks about homosexuality they will remember the one who was in the position of authority and was shown respect.
 
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RPConover:
Actually just to mention it, my highschool principal was gay also. It never came up or caused any problem. I can’t remember one single time that I even thought about it.
Just my thought. In the case of your highschool principal it more then likely never made the newspapers. So there was no perceived agenda except his/her job to do. IMHO When someone makes sure that there sexual orientation is made widely public there is a “cause” or “agenda” behind their actions.
(these are the people I don’t want teaching children in public schools as I don’t believe that they are there to teach)
 
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