Two openly gay principals hired in same town: a first!

[MikeinSD]

Homosexual behavior in unhealthy, immoral, and personally and socially destructive. Anyone choosing this behavior (lifestyle) has no place in a school setting where they can influence children to follow their example, period!

Have you considered moving to another country where free citizens, exercising their civil rights under rule of law, will not offend you? The People’s Republic of China very much disapproves of gay men. No doubt an openly gay man would not be a principal in that dictatorship. You may also have to give up some freedoms, like that of freedom of worship, but at least you will not be offended by gay men.

Openly gay citizens are a fact of life in the US. Something you’ll get used to.

 

[iceman]

MikeinSD:

Homosexual behavior in unhealthy, immoral, and personally and socially destructive. Anyone choosing this behavior (lifestyle) has no place in a school setting where they can influence children to follow their example, period!

Have you considered moving to another country where free citizens, exercising their civil rights under rule of law, will not offend you? The People’s Republic of China very much disapproves of gay men. No doubt an openly gay man would not be a principal in that dictatorship. You may also have to give up some freedoms, like that of freedom of worship, but at least you will not be offended by gay men.

Openly gay citizens are a fact of life in the US. Something you’ll get used to.

I am not offended by gay men or women. I have no interest in what they do in private providing it is legal. It is true that I do not appreciate the nature of their behavior but I firmly believe in the need for tolerance within society. I am offended, however, at the persistent imposition of homosexuality in society in general and particularly on our young. Full acceptance and promotion of homosexuality, and the corresponding destruction of the institutions of marriage and the family have been the true goals of the organized homosexual movement, along with certain other movements. This is not acceptable.

I live in a free society with free speech which was built upon Judeo-Christian values. I intend to exercise my free speech and practice and promote my Judeo Christian values. These values do not include the acceptance and public promotion of destructive homosexual behavior, nor do I have to “get used to” this unfortunate phenomenon which exists at the moment.

Escalating resistance to the blatant promotion of homosexuality in Western society is now a fact of life you may have to get used to.

 

[GloriaPatri4]

MikeinSD:

Have you considered moving to another country where free citizens, exercising their civil rights under rule of law, will not offend you? The People’s Republic of China very much disapproves of gay men. No doubt an openly gay man would not be a principal in that dictatorship. You may also have to give up some freedoms, like that of freedom of worship, but at least you will not be offended by gay men.

Openly gay citizens are a fact of life in the US. Something you’ll get used to.

We shouldn’t have to get used to it. We don’t all approve of the homosexual lifestyle. it’s wrong to use our tax dollars to employ people who will negatively influence our children the future of our country just as it is wrong to use tax dollars to pay for abortions. We are forced to support these immoral behaviors.

I’m surprised by some of the posts on CAF. Are you Catholic? Do you people sleep during the homilies or are you just not hearing what you should be hearing from your priests?

From Considerations Regarding Proposals…

1. There are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family. Marriage is holy, while homosexual acts go against the natural moral law. Homosexual acts “close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved”.****(4)

Sacred Scripture condemns homosexual acts “as a serious depravity… (cf.* Rom* 1:24-27;* 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim *1:10). This judgment of Scripture does not of course permit us to conclude that all those who suffer from this anomaly are personally responsible for it, but it does attest to the fact that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered”.(5) This same moral judgment is found in many Christian writers of the first centuries(6) and is unanimously accepted by Catholic Tradition.

Where the government’s policy is* de facto* tolerance and there is no explicit legal recognition of homosexual unions, it is necessary to distinguish carefully the various aspects of the problem. Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

 

[Liberalsaved]

T.A.Stobie:

Simple proof that child abuse is on the rise in Newton, MA

Since most child abuse is done by parents, we better ban heterosexuality, too.

 

[MikeinSD]

“Escalating resistance to the blatant promotion of homosexuality in Western society is now a fact of life you may have to get used to.”

It’s a free country. Say what you want. Organize, petition the government – exercise yr civil rights. I’ll do the same. One of the beauties of living in the US.

 

[Bella3502]

So if we don’t want them to be school principals, then what jobs should we “allow” them to have?

The military is out.
Teaching is out.
The Priesthood is off limits.

If you can’t be trusted around children, you should be automatically excluded from many professions.

 

[GloriaPatri4]

Bella3502:

So if we don’t want them to be school principals, then what jobs should we “allow” them to have?

The military is out.
Teaching is out.
The Priesthood is off limits.

If you can’t be trusted around children, you should be automatically excluded from many professions.

The reasons I don’t believe gays should be in the military are different than the reasons I have for them not being teachers. I don’t think gays should be in the military for the same reason I don’t think they should be priests. If men attracted to men are living with men and working/fighting with them side by side, day by day I think those temptations would get in the way of their job. You don’t hear about men and women living in the same room on a military base or ship just as you don’t see or hear about heterosexual priests living in a convent with nuns.

I can’t speak for the other people on this thread but the reason I don’t think that active homosexuals should be teachers is the example they are setting for the children. It’s not because I don’t trust them with children. I had an assistant principal at a school I attended who was actively gay I did not find out until years later. I’m sure that none of the students knew and only a handful of the faculty knew about it.

 

[Liberalsaved]

GloriaPatri4:

The reasons I don’t believe gays should be in the military are different than the reasons I have for them not being teachers. I don’t think gays should be in the military for the same reason I don’t think they should be priests. If men attracted to men are living with men and working/fighting with them side by side, day by day I think those temptations would get in the way of their job. You don’t hear about men and women living in the same room on a military base or ship just as you don’t see or hear about heterosexual priests living in a convent with nuns.

I can’t speak for the other people on this thread but the reason I don’t think that active homosexuals should be teachers is the example they are setting for the children. It’s not because I don’t trust them with children. I had an assistant principal at a school I attended who was actively gay I did not find out until years later. I’m sure that none of the students knew and only a handful of the faculty knew about it.

Since most child abuse is perpetrated by parents, what do you think of my proposal to ban heterosexuality so that child abuse stops?

 

[GloriaPatri4]

Liberalsaved:

Since most child abuse is perpetrated by parents, what do you think of my proposal to ban heterosexuality so that child abuse stops?

I haven’t see the data to back this up but gee while were at it why don’t we just ban all humankind so we won’t have any more problems in the world?

 

[Libero]

The reasons I don’t believe gays should be in the military are different than the reasons I have for them not being teachers. I don’t think gays should be in the military for the same reason I don’t think they should be priests. If men attracted to men are living with men and working/fighting with them side by side, day by day I think those temptations would get in the way of their job. You don’t hear about men and women living in the same room on a military base or ship just as you don’t see or hear about heterosexual priests living in a convent with nuns.

I can’t speak for the other people on this thread but the reason I don’t think that active homosexuals should be teachers is the example they are setting for the children. It’s not because I don’t trust them with children. I had an assistant principal at a school I attended who was actively gay I did not find out until years later. I’m sure that none of the students knew and only a handful of the faculty knew about it.

You seem to be of the opinion that homosexual men are somewhat less capable of resisting their temptations, and choosing to ignore their orientation on occassions. Why? They have grown through life learning to adapt with their orientation, from school and gym changing rooms, to coping in a work environment.

Even Cardinal O’Brien agrees that homosexuals should not be banned from being teachers (and he was talking about Catholic schools too)

 

[TarAshly]

What on earth do you think they are going to do?!?!? wear rainbow suits to school and march up and down the halls chanting “Gay’s the way! Straight just aint!” gimme a break! they will be a principal and do their job, if not they should be fired like any other professional.

 

[TarAshly]

Hold on, I am southern and I dont use the word “fags” nor do I hate them. I am right on par with you as far as volunteering if the gov’t steps in to decide who can work where, but the church comment…ouch…and the southern comment…double ouch…

Troy7:

Um…did people think gays didnt have to work for a living? They’re so magical… if they dont have jobs in movies, broadway or as hairstylists, they pick their money off of trees…

The day America decides what career gay people can and cant have is when I will begin voluneering for every gay activist group I can find. I dont condone the practice of homosexuality but God chose to be ambiguous as to how to treat them in society…and I dont buy into Paul’s shun them from society approach…different times and culture. And if anyone brings up Old Testament sayings be prepared to explain why we dont still stone people to death for adultry or a host of other such nonsense in the OT.

And I dont buy into the worry about the gays telling kids about them stuff…thats treating their minds as being perverted and always thinking about sex…last I checked…theres WAYYY more hetero teachers having sex with students…not gays…thats reserved for the church mostly…odds are in todays classrooms there are kids from same sex families. Its a fact of life. Having gay teachers aint gonna make them gay,if anything they wont devlop some weird backwoods southern hate of all them “fags”

 

[iceman]

TarAshly:

What on earth do you think they are going to do?!?!? wear rainbow suits to school and march up and down the halls chanting “Gay’s the way! Straight just aint!” gimme a break! they will be a principal and do their job, if not they should be fired like any other professional.

Do you mean like groups of homosexuals currently do inside and outside Church services, and in gay parades in almost every major city, at which perverse behavior is thrust at the public including children and covered by the media?

Great Britain study says 43% of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have a mental disorder

Is this the conduct (lifestyle?) we want modelled and promoted almost daily to children/students in schools?,

 

[Libero]

Great Britain study says 43% of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have a mental disorder

Results Of the 1285 gay, lesbian and bisexual respondents who took part, 556 (43%) had mental disorder as defined by the revised Clinical Interview Schedule (CIS - R). Out of the whole sample, 361 (31%) had attempted suicide. This was associated with markers of discrimination such as recent physical attack (OR=1.7, 95% CI 1.3-2.3) and school bullying (OR=1.4, 95% CI 1.1-2.0), but not with higher scores on the CIS-R.

Conclusions Gay, lesbian and bisexual men and women have high levels of mental disorder, possibly linked with discrimination.

Taken from the research, which I have to say did not impress me, the research team is very small, the researchers do not seem to be that great experts, and the size of the research was small - i.e. not many participants.

Britain has done the entire “ban the gay teachers and schooling” ideas in the disastarous Section 28 farce.

I had a gay teacher - didn’t affect me…

 

[TarAshly]

Well like I said in another thread, homosexuality is not contagious, they are God’s children, they deserve the same rights we have, we have no right to treat them like monsters and leave them on the outskirts of society. people need to GET OVER the homophobia.

iceman:

Do you mean like groups of homosexuals currently do inside and outside Church services, and in gay parades in almost every major city, at which perverse behavior is thrust at the public including children and covered by the media?

Great Britain study says 43% of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have a mental disorder

Is this the conduct (lifestyle?) we want modelled and promoted almost daily to children/students in schools?,

 

[iceman]

TarAshly:

Well like I said in another thread, homosexuality is not contagious, they are God’s children, they deserve the same rights we have, we have no right to treat them like monsters and leave them on the outskirts of society. people need to GET OVER the homophobia.

There is no such word as homophobia. It is a homosexual fabrication to place society on the defensive with regard to the homosexual agenda, and serves to confuse one emotion (disgust) with another (fear).

Many homosexuals fully intend to “spread” their conduct by indoctrinating the young into believing that homosexuality is simply another healthy lifestyle choice of equal societal and moral value to heterosexual marriage. This is why homosexuality is being forced on children in sex education classes, and why gay marriage in being promoted nationally in many Western countries. Perhaps it is time people **like you ** woke up and openned their eyes to what is happening around you.

 

[bones_IV]

TarAshly:

Well like I said in another thread, homosexuality is not contagious, they are God’s children, they deserve the same rights we have, we have no right to treat them like monsters and leave them on the outskirts of society. people need to GET OVER the homophobia.

the political correctness bug has bitten you.

 

[siamesecat]

I can understand why people don’t wany their children asking questions about sexuality in general or thinking this is okay…however, are the principals blatantly talking about their orientation? I wouldnt want to hear about my principal’s sex life, gay or straight, nor would I think it appropriate for a principal to tell kids what to believe in. As long as they are doing their job as a principal and not trying to teach kids about sexuality I have no problem with it. Barring people who do not directly harm anyone (some may disagree with this but theyre not molesting anyone) from jobs would open up the door to all kinds of discrimination. Some parents might not want their kids taughted by a Mormon, other won’t want their kid taught by a woman, a Republican, etc.

 

[Bella3502]

GloriaPatri4:

The reasons I don’t believe gays should be in the military are different than the reasons I have for them not being teachers. I don’t think gays should be in the military for the same reason I don’t think they should be priests. If men attracted to men are living with men and working/fighting with them side by side, day by day I think those temptations would get in the way of their job. You don’t hear about men and women living in the same room on a military base or ship just as you don’t see or hear about heterosexual priests living in a convent with nuns.

I can’t speak for the other people on this thread but the reason I don’t think that active homosexuals should be teachers is the example they are setting for the children. It’s not because I don’t trust them with children. I had an assistant principal at a school I attended who was actively gay I did not find out until years later. I’m sure that none of the students knew and only a handful of the faculty knew about it.

How come no one ever brings up the fact that there are just as many gay women teaching, and in the military, and in the convent as there are men…???

 

[melbourne_guy]

I wouldnt let a stripper babysit my kids, just as i wouldnt want there principal to be gay.