Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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I understand what you are saying but I don’t se it that way, I see three women who were willing to take money instead of bringing criminal charges against Cain. Do you really do that if the person if guilty, on three occasions? If they brought criminal charges against Cain, couldn’t they of received a bigger pay out if he was found guilty?
That rationale would apply if the women somehow got together and decided to bring charges, but do we know that to be the case? If all incidents, accusers and charges were separate, I don’t see how they do anything but raise serious questions about his behavior or at the very least, his judgment.
 
Newt might be able to give him some helpful advice. This is an area he knows something about.
New Gingrich of course is one man who would like personal lives to be left out of politics entirely. “Experience is a good teacher, but the fees are high.” So said Heinrich Heine.
 
I understand what you are saying but I don’t see it that way, I see three women who were willing to take money instead of bringing criminal charges against Cain. Do you really do that that if the person if guilty, on three occasions? If they brought criminal charges against Cain, couldn’t they of received a bigger pay out if he was found guilty?
It is also possible for an actual victim of a crime to settle with the perpetrator for money outside of the criminal justice system. Victims can also be greedy (or perhaps simply value monetary reward more than the punishment of their alleged assailant, to put it more objectively). No assumptions, but it is possible.
 
That rationale would apply if the women somehow got together and decided to bring charges, but do we know that to be the case? If all incidents, accusers and charges were separate, I don’t see how they do anything but raise serious questions about his behavior or at the very least, his judgment.
Well Cain is an easy target isn’t he, he is a rich guy.
 
Well Cain is an easy target isn’t he, he is a rich guy.
I suppose that is true, but without more details I couldn’t say either way. The accusers are not necessarily poor either and in any case the money wasn’t coming directly from him, to my knowledge.
 
New Gingrich of course is one man who would like personal lives to be left out of politics entirely. “Experience is a good teacher, but the fees are high.” So said Heinrich Heine.
Are you talking about THE Heinrich Heine who had the youthful indiscretion?
 
Well Cain is an easy target isn’t he, he is a rich guy.
He’s also a former executive. My experience with executives is that us ground-level employees gossip negatively about them and any of us unfortunate enough to be grouped with them in a social function (like a company dinner) are uncomfortable. We also let them win at golf, laugh at their jokes that aren’t funny, and feign rapt attention when they tell boring stories.

He’s also an easy target because he’s apparently under an N.D.A…
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I suppose that is true, but without more details I couldn’t say either way. The accusers are not necessarily poor either and in any case the money wasn’t coming directly from him, to my knowledge.
I don’t know who the money came from.

Cain said:

“I have never sexually harassed anyone, let’s say that. Secondly, I’ve never sexually harassed anyone, and yes, I was falsely accused while I was at the National Restaurant Association, and I say falsely, because it turned out, after the investigation, to be baseless. The people mentioned in that article were the ones who would be aware of any misdoings, and they have attested to my integrity and my character. It is totally baseless, and totally false, never have I committed any sort of sexual harassment,”

realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/31/cain_on_sexual_harassment_charge_totally_baseless_and_totally_false.html

What investigation was done?
 
I don’t know who the money came from.

Cain said:

“I have never sexually harassed anyone, let’s say that. Secondly, I’ve never sexually harassed anyone, and yes, I was falsely accused while I was at the National Restaurant Association, and I say falsely, because it turned out, after the investigation, to be baseless. The people mentioned in that article were the ones who would be aware of any misdoings, and they have attested to my integrity and my character. It is totally baseless, and totally false, never have I committed any sort of sexual harassment,”

realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/31/cain_on_sexual_harassment_charge_totally_baseless_and_totally_false.html

What investigation was done?
Cain said in an interview with Greta van Susterin that an investigation had been conducted.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#2012_presidential_candidacy

The last sentence of the article. Not sure if the NRA has confirmed having investigated the incidents.
 
If it was investigated by the NRA and the claim(s) found to be ‘baseless,’ then what is the problem?
I haven’t read of the investigation anywhere else to verify that it did indeed take place. There is also the question of why thee NRA settled if they found the claims to be baseless.

Hopefully, the NRA has made or will make public whatever investigation it did conduct and what its conclusions were, and settle this matter.
 
I haven’t read of the investigation anywhere else to verify that it did indeed take place. There is also the question of why thee NRA settled if they found the claims to be baseless.

Hopefully, the NRA has made or will make public whatever investigation it did conduct and what its conclusions were, and settle this matter.
Exactly, NRA need to confirm that it has been investigated and that would corroborate with what Cain has said, and this can be settled.
 
I haven’t read of the investigation anywhere else to verify that it did indeed take place. There is also the question of why thee NRA settled if they found the claims to be baseless.
That’s actually not much of a mystery. It’s pretty much standard procedure. If someone burns their bridges within the company by coming up with a complaint that doesn’t measure up to the standards of actionable harassment you can’t use them anymore. However, if you terminate them directly you can be sued for retaliation.

S.O.P. is you cut them a severance package and a letter of recommendation so they can move onto a new position at another company.
Hopefully, the NRA has made or will make public whatever investigation it did conduct and what its conclusions were, and settle this matter.
I doubt it. They don’t have anything to gain and their CEO is a Romney contributor.
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Rasmussun poll: South Carolina: Cain 33% Romney 23% Gingrich 15%

The survey was conducted on Tuesday night following two days of media coverage concerning allegations of sexual harassment against Cain.

Among these South Carolina voters, 75% were able to correctly identify Cain as the candidate who was accused of sexual harassment in the 1990s. Only nine percent (9%) mistakenly thought it was some other candidate, while 16% are not sure.

Just nine percent (9%) think it’s Very Likely that the charges against Cain are serious and true. Another 19% think it’s Somewhat Likely. Fifty-eight percent (58%) consider it unlikely, but that includes only 19% who say that it is Not at All Likely. This suggests that Republican voters are generally willing to give the candidate the benefit of the doubt while recognizing that more information might change their perception.

Fifty-one percent (51%) believe it’s at least somewhat likely that the allegations were leaked by one of the other Republican campaigns. Among those who support Cain, that figure rises to 61%.

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/south_carolina/election_2012_south_carolina_republican_primary
 
More like Clinton. Does anyone remember how the media wished to white wash the allegations made about him?
I remember it more like all hell breaking loose. I had to keep shutting off the news lest I was asked for an explanation from my children. It was everywhere, including the front page of all the newspapers. I remember well. That was probably the beginning of the end as far as any restraint or tact being employed.
 
More like Clinton. Does anyone remember how the media wished to white wash the allegations made about him?
What about McCain?

Nearing primary season last time around… The media was flooded with free publicity about his infidelity. Didn’t hurt his nomination any. The banksters are playing the voters as fools.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the women involved were to suddenly receive a sizable second payoff, and publicly recant.

While the media circus distracts with the tried and true clown acts…

The bankster media fails to report just how much a failure at business Cain actually was. He closed many of his ill gotten 2nd rate pizza stores, costing people jobs. Herman Cain never created a job in his life.

He was also a embezzler, look up “Aquila”, costing people their retirements.

He is a chicken hawk who dodged the draft yet is willing to sacrifice American lives for foreign interests…
Yet the media also downplays his plans to tax the poor for foreign wars.

How can Catholics support one who claims to be pro life but will not actually document it?
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