U.S. bishops’ relief agency gives $5.3 million to major contraception-providing charity

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Personally, I have a great deal of difficulty with any Catholic organization simply being a conduit of funds to some secular organization that engages in activities that might be deemed to be socially useful. If they can’t manage to deliver actual services themselves, then they ought to just shut down. There are real Catholic charities who do, and organizations that see their role as “conduits” are taking funds from the faithful that could actually be used by truly Catholic charities.

I’ll bet there isn’t one Catholic in 100,000 who has any idea that when they donate to CRS, they’re actually giving money to CARE. My goodness, if Catholics want to donate to CARE, they can do it directly. But they would probably find out first what kind of organization CARE is. To me, this whole thing is a betrayal of trust.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Being ideological is great for a group of believers in a religious institution, prayer group and such.

However, being ideological as a self-described news source, discredits their objective reporting. This is especially evident after they’ve been caught presenting misinformation so often.

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This news reporting agency is one of the few places we can yet go to receive news that impacts us as faithful Catholics. If they follow the idealogical viewpoints of our faith, then I want to read what they have to say. I still do not understand how you can discredit a Catholic news reporting agency for reporting the news as it applies to Catholics. If we don’t get news there, who will report? Name a source that you view as credible?
 
Ridgerunner said:
Personally, I have a great deal of difficulty with any Catholic organization simply being a conduit of funds to some secular organization that engages in activities that might be deemed to be socially useful. If they can’t manage to deliver actual services themselves, then they ought to just shut down. There are real Catholic charities who do, and organizations that see their role as “conduits” are taking funds from the faithful that could actually be used by truly Catholic charities.

I’ll bet there isn’t one Catholic in 100,000 who has any idea that when they donate to CRS, they’re actually giving money to CARE. My goodness, if Catholics want to donate to CARE, they can do it directly. But they would probably find out first what kind of organization CARE is. To me, this whole thing is a betrayal of trust.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your summation here. I do feel betrayed and have donated almost exclusively to CRS at a national level, while everything else I just supported locally here where I live and through my parish.
 
Used2beSherryG said:
This news reporting agency is one of the few places we can yet go to receive news that impacts us as faithful Catholics. If they follow the idealogical viewpoints of our faith, then I want to read what they have to say. I still do not understand how you can discredit a Catholic news reporting agency for reporting the news as it applies to Catholics. If we don’t get news there, who will report? Name a source that you view as credible?
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There are credible sources for Catholic News. Zenit is one that comes to mind.

We also have Catholic publications. My dioceses has the Catholic Free Press.

Jim
 
Used2beSherryG said:
I agree wholeheartedly with your summation here. I do feel betrayed and have donated almost exclusively to CRS at a national level, while everything else I just supported locally here where I live and through my parish.
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Well, Used2beSherryG, since you are from the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas, you are necessarily a person worth listening to. (Oh, okay, I’m from the Ozark Mts of Mo, so I have a prejudice in your favor…welcome to CAF by the way.)

You know, we got a new bishop not too long ago, and he encourages donation to the diocesan Catholic Charities of Southern Missouri, which he started, as an alternative to the USCCB entities. The diocesan program provides direct aid to individuals in need. A person really needs to be careful nowadays when it comes to donating to charity.
 
april32010 said:
f i may add yet another DING,DING,DING.
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Do you own any Microsoft products? How about the browser on your computer ? If so , then by your logic you are supporting the Gates Foundations ability to contributes millions to contraceptive and abortion services. DONG!
 
Ridgerunner said:
Personally, I have a great deal of difficulty with any Catholic organization simply being a conduit of funds to some secular organization that engages in activities that might be deemed to be socially useful. If they can’t manage to deliver actual services themselves, then they ought to just shut down. There are real Catholic charities who do, and organizations that see their role as “conduits” are taking funds from the faithful that could actually be used by truly Catholic charities.

I’ll bet there isn’t one Catholic in 100,000 who has any idea that when they donate to CRS, they’re actually giving money to CARE. My goodness, if Catholics want to donate to CARE, they can do it directly. But they would probably find out first what kind of organization CARE is. To me, this whole thing is a betrayal of trust.
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But actually we’ve been doing this for quite a while now. And it’s just messed up. I agree with you.

The Church has been donating to these agencies to do work for us, and counting (naively I think) on their assurances that they’re not violating Catholic principles. Money is indeed fungible. And unless they have a 100% different staff providing our set of services as opposed to the abortion/birth control “services” that they also provide eagerly, then it’s a BIG problem. I’m pretty sure they’re not operating 2 distinct businesses with 2 distinct groups of people staffing them, with no overlap. Frankly, from their point of view, that wouldn’t make any either as a matter of business or as a matter of ideology.
 
zab said:
Do you own any Microsoft products? How about the browser on your computer ? If so , then by your logic you are supporting the Gates Foundations ability to contributes millions to contraceptive and abortion services. DONG!
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I didn’t donate the money. I bought a product. Big difference.
 
iloveangels said:
But actually we’ve been doing this for quite a while now. And it’s just messed up. I agree with you.

The Church has been donating to these agencies to do work for us, and counting (naively I think) on their assurances that they’re not violating Catholic principles. Money is indeed fungible. And unless they have a 100% different staff providing our set of services as opposed to the abortion/birth control “services” that they also provide eagerly, then it’s a BIG problem. I’m pretty sure they’re not operating 2 distinct businesses with 2 distinct groups of people staffing them, with no overlap. Frankly, from their point of view, that wouldn’t make any sense either as a matter of business or as a matter of ideology.
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iloveangels said:
I didn’t donate the money. I bought a product. Big difference.
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Why do people boycott certain products and businesses. By buying the product you were supporting the company enabling them to continue with their philanthrophy.
 
zab said:
Why do people boycott certain products and businesses. By buying the product you were supporting the company enabling them to continue with their philanthrophy.
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Still comparing apples and oranges.
 
zab said:
Why do people boycott certain products and businesses. By buying the product you were supporting the company enabling them to continue with their philanthrophy.
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By applying this to the CRS situation, you would also be justifying a grant to Planned Parenthood for a morally-neutral or morally-good project. Either one cannot grant this money to either CARE or Planned Parenthood or one can grant the money to both CARE and Planned Parenthood. CRS says they cannot grant this money to Planned Parenthood. Given that, then the second portion of the reasoning must follow … one cannot grant money to CARE, either.
 
MHichborn said:
By applying this to the CRS situation, you would also be justifying a grant to Planned Parenthood for a morally-neutral or morally-good project. Either one cannot grant this money to either CARE or Planned Parenthood or one can grant the money to both CARE and Planned Parenthood. CRS says they cannot grant this money to Planned Parenthood. Given that, then the second portion of the reasoning must follow … one cannot grant money to CARE, either.
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MHichborn said:
By applying this to the CRS situation, you would also be justifying a grant to Planned Parenthood for a morally-neutral or morally-good project. Either one cannot grant this money to either CARE or Planned Parenthood or one can grant the money to both CARE and Planned Parenthood. CRS says they cannot grant this money to Planned Parenthood. Given that, then the second portion of the reasoning must follow … one cannot grant money to CARE, either.
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ding,ding,ding.
 
MHichborn said:
By applying this to the CRS situation, you would also be justifying a grant to Planned Parenthood for a morally-neutral or morally-good project. Either one cannot grant this money to either CARE or Planned Parenthood or one can grant the money to both CARE and Planned Parenthood. CRS says they cannot grant this money to Planned Parenthood. Given that, then the second portion of the reasoning must follow … one cannot grant money to CARE, either.
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ding
 
zab said:
Dong
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See my previous post. What one purchases or does not purchase is irrelevant to a provision of funds to an enemy of the Church by a Church agency. Exchanging money for goods is not the same as funding organizations whose philosophy towards the poor is that the best way to eliminate poverty is to prevent poor folks from reproducing.

Think of it this way … would you be upset if you found out that CRS gave a $5.3 million grant to the KKK for some stated “good” project?
 
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