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U.S. Bishops Call for Prayers, Pledge to Work for Comprehensive Immigration Bill
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JimR-OCDS
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He actually didn’t say this but rather, the US was drawn into WWII because France and Great Britain, had an alliance with Poland. When Hitler invaded Poland, France and Great Britain declared war on Germany, even though both countries did not have the means to fight a war with Germany. Great Britain turned to the US for help, which we gave them, and that eventually led up to the US getting sucked into the war. Buchanan’s issue is that the problem is with alliances between nations, such as the alliance Great Britain and France had with Poland. When Hitler invaded Poland, it fell in three days. Hitler was moving east into Russia. Had France and Great Britain not declared war on Germany, Hitler would’ve continued on into Russia and gotten himself bogged down in a costly war. Meanwhile, France and Great Britain could’ve built up militarily. Then Hitler would not have had the means to go into France.kellicouch
He once stated that America should not have entered into World War II, and he was promptly labelled as a “Nazi Apologist”.
This is also why Buchanan is against increasing the size of NATO, beyond Post WWII. As he says, alliances are nothing more than military agreements. Should American soldiers be forced to die for Belarus ?
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Senate Bill threatens America
By Senator Aubyn Curtiss
for eco-logic/Powerhouse magazine
June 01, 2007
Though Montana is far removed from the Mexican Border where thousands of illegal persons enter our country daily, the current immigration bill, although having strong bi-partisan support, has the potential to forever change our future. Both Congress and the U.S. Senate have immigration legislation under consideration, as pressure has been mounting to enact some regulations on the federal level to deal with ever growing problems of states and communities.
Those monitoring action in the nation’s capitol, however, have grave concern about the Senate Bill proposing the most significant policy changes in 41 years. President Bush is almost guaranteed to sign the bill, which would grant quick legal status to millions of illegals already in our country. The bill would also allow as many as 400,000 new migrants into the country each year. It does not take much imagination to visualize the impact this influx of foreign nationals would have on our society and our politics. Adding to that the militancy of the “Latinos” who consider that our border states were stolen from them, and are obsessed with the desire to take them back, our federal policymakers are considering actions which present serious risks to our very security and way of life.
Illegal immigration: A sovereignty issue
Actions taken by cities and states across the country evidence the grave concerns which have necessitated devising means to deal with the negative impacts illegals are bringing to their communities. Information provided by the National Council of State Legislatures indicates that 570 pieces of immigration-related legislation were introduced in state legislatures around the country in 2006. Thirty-two states passed measures which dealt primarily with law enforcement, employment, legal services, public benefits, voting, education, Id/drivers licenses, and trafficking. Each was passed to address significant local problems presented by unrestrained immigration, and the burdens placed on their taxpayers by those coming uninvited. They come not only to enjoy the benefits of our society, but some come to prey upon the more vulnerable among our citizens. In some locales, law enforcement is stretched to the extreme to deal with connected crime and illegal drugs.
Not all fall within those categories, but to throw our borders wide open is to invite even more of the negative impacts, which have necessitated communities across the nation to pass laws of their own in order to deal with adverse situations created by undocumented immigrants. Some of these jurisdictions are already involved in lawsuits brought by the ACLU and advocates for the illegals. Statistics indicate that approximately 80 percent of Americans do not favor amnesty for people in our country illegally, nor making welcome the continued waves of illegal trespassers crossing our Southern borders. Still, communities, moving to protect their lawful citizens, are being placed in an adversarial position with our own federal government. Allowing millions more entrance will only compound the problems. Those who truly care about our country should be e-mailing our U.S. Senators and telling them a resounding “No” to placing extra burdens on our taxpayers, and further compromising the sovereignty of our states and our great nation.
Efforts in the past legislative session to forestall such problems in Montana were not successful, and the majority turned thumbs down on legislation to even make it a felony for illegals to vote. We will either learn from situations occurring elsewhere, or Montanans will be forced to join other jurisdictions forced to take protective action. As good citizens, we can express our concerns and help turn the flood - the flood which, unchecked, has the potential to dictate policy to us a short way down the road, when, by default, we have allowed those who made this country great to become the minority.
Senator Aubyn Curtiss is a Montana State Sentator.
freedom.org/news/200706/01/curtiss.phtml
By Senator Aubyn Curtiss
for eco-logic/Powerhouse magazine
June 01, 2007
Though Montana is far removed from the Mexican Border where thousands of illegal persons enter our country daily, the current immigration bill, although having strong bi-partisan support, has the potential to forever change our future. Both Congress and the U.S. Senate have immigration legislation under consideration, as pressure has been mounting to enact some regulations on the federal level to deal with ever growing problems of states and communities.
Those monitoring action in the nation’s capitol, however, have grave concern about the Senate Bill proposing the most significant policy changes in 41 years. President Bush is almost guaranteed to sign the bill, which would grant quick legal status to millions of illegals already in our country. The bill would also allow as many as 400,000 new migrants into the country each year. It does not take much imagination to visualize the impact this influx of foreign nationals would have on our society and our politics. Adding to that the militancy of the “Latinos” who consider that our border states were stolen from them, and are obsessed with the desire to take them back, our federal policymakers are considering actions which present serious risks to our very security and way of life.
Illegal immigration: A sovereignty issue
Actions taken by cities and states across the country evidence the grave concerns which have necessitated devising means to deal with the negative impacts illegals are bringing to their communities. Information provided by the National Council of State Legislatures indicates that 570 pieces of immigration-related legislation were introduced in state legislatures around the country in 2006. Thirty-two states passed measures which dealt primarily with law enforcement, employment, legal services, public benefits, voting, education, Id/drivers licenses, and trafficking. Each was passed to address significant local problems presented by unrestrained immigration, and the burdens placed on their taxpayers by those coming uninvited. They come not only to enjoy the benefits of our society, but some come to prey upon the more vulnerable among our citizens. In some locales, law enforcement is stretched to the extreme to deal with connected crime and illegal drugs.
Not all fall within those categories, but to throw our borders wide open is to invite even more of the negative impacts, which have necessitated communities across the nation to pass laws of their own in order to deal with adverse situations created by undocumented immigrants. Some of these jurisdictions are already involved in lawsuits brought by the ACLU and advocates for the illegals. Statistics indicate that approximately 80 percent of Americans do not favor amnesty for people in our country illegally, nor making welcome the continued waves of illegal trespassers crossing our Southern borders. Still, communities, moving to protect their lawful citizens, are being placed in an adversarial position with our own federal government. Allowing millions more entrance will only compound the problems. Those who truly care about our country should be e-mailing our U.S. Senators and telling them a resounding “No” to placing extra burdens on our taxpayers, and further compromising the sovereignty of our states and our great nation.
Efforts in the past legislative session to forestall such problems in Montana were not successful, and the majority turned thumbs down on legislation to even make it a felony for illegals to vote. We will either learn from situations occurring elsewhere, or Montanans will be forced to join other jurisdictions forced to take protective action. As good citizens, we can express our concerns and help turn the flood - the flood which, unchecked, has the potential to dictate policy to us a short way down the road, when, by default, we have allowed those who made this country great to become the minority.
Senator Aubyn Curtiss is a Montana State Sentator.
freedom.org/news/200706/01/curtiss.phtml
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kellicouch77
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Looks like that horrible is dead! I will personally wait for the autopsy photos to be released, but all sources are pointing at its death.
I do believe that there many Senators out there who put their careers at stake on this. For my fellow Texans, I ask you to seriously consider giving Kay Baily Hutchinson another vote next time. She was opposed to an “amendment” that would have forced the government to enforce existing laws.
Paleocons and Neocons need to remain united on this issue and support those Senators who held firm to the rule of law on this.
I do believe that there many Senators out there who put their careers at stake on this. For my fellow Texans, I ask you to seriously consider giving Kay Baily Hutchinson another vote next time. She was opposed to an “amendment” that would have forced the government to enforce existing laws.
Paleocons and Neocons need to remain united on this issue and support those Senators who held firm to the rule of law on this.
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Minnesota_Mary
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Yes, by all means we need to unite on immigration and support the good Senators who held firm. Numbers USA should be posting their names soon.
How do we get Bush & Company to enforce our existing immigration laws now that the suicide bill has been stopped for the time being?
I’ll bet the USCCB and its operatives are hopping mad tonight. MN Mary
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GrandpaD
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It looks like we the people won this round. It really does help to call and write your senators. I did it and so did millions more Republicans, Democrats and all the people got together to protest this bill, and we won, it is defeated. I think the Bishops had better rethink who’s side they are on. The illegals or the USA.
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Minnesota_Mary
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It’s kind of funny, but Bush always claimed to be a " uniter not a divider" when he was running for office. He wound up dividing this nation like never before, but alas he has finally united both Democrats and Republicans across the country against that awful amnesty bill!
I phoned my senators, but I don’t know how they voted yet. They were on the wrong side before, so I am assuming they didn’t change their positions. Norm Coleman (R) and Amy Klobuchar (D) were for the bill. MN Mary
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Minnesota_Mary
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Google up 'NAFTA Super Highway by Phyllis Schlafly" to read what she says about it. MN Mary
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rlg94086
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The bill is not dead yet, so you are a little premature in your revery.
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,279213,00.html
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,279213,00.html
Yes, by all means we need to unite on immigration and support the good Senators who held firm. Numbers USA should be posting their names soon.
How do we get Bush & Company to enforce our existing immigration laws now that the suicide bill has been stopped for the time being?
I’ll bet the USCCB and its operatives are hopping mad tonight. MN Mary
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GrandpaD
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Mary, Your senator Coleman switched to the right side and voted against the bill and Klobucher voted for it. So at least one of the senators made the right choice and voted with the people.
Bush should take a lesson from this and know he is not always right in the direction he goes, especially when he sides with the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. My state split too, with a big surprise Barbara Boxer voted against and of course Feinstein stayed with the losers in voting against the will of the people.
They will bring it up again, but for now it is dead. Now, we know we can win even against the Bishops. If we can only get them to enforce the laws on the books now and close the borders to more illegals. Make them come in like the law abiding people, we don’t need anymore criminals here. Do you know that a great protion of the people who crossed the Mexican border were from Communist China, and many were even from Iraq and Iran. Maybe, if the people who are coming here illegally find the door closed they will pressure their own goverments to change for the better. They need to make changes in their own countries, and stay home.
The Catholic Bishops should work together with the Bishops of Mexico and other countries to affect change and support the people in their efforts for a better life in their own countries. That would make better sense than encouraging them to come and take over our country.
I just called Mastercard to activate my new card and was told to press 1 if I wanted to speak English. That is what makes me mad, Spanish speaking people should have to press 1 to speak Spanish. If I go to Mexico they do not even ask if I want to speak English on the phone. They assume I am in Mexico, so I must speak Spanish or not make a phone call.
Bush should take a lesson from this and know he is not always right in the direction he goes, especially when he sides with the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. My state split too, with a big surprise Barbara Boxer voted against and of course Feinstein stayed with the losers in voting against the will of the people.
They will bring it up again, but for now it is dead. Now, we know we can win even against the Bishops. If we can only get them to enforce the laws on the books now and close the borders to more illegals. Make them come in like the law abiding people, we don’t need anymore criminals here. Do you know that a great protion of the people who crossed the Mexican border were from Communist China, and many were even from Iraq and Iran. Maybe, if the people who are coming here illegally find the door closed they will pressure their own goverments to change for the better. They need to make changes in their own countries, and stay home.
The Catholic Bishops should work together with the Bishops of Mexico and other countries to affect change and support the people in their efforts for a better life in their own countries. That would make better sense than encouraging them to come and take over our country.
I just called Mastercard to activate my new card and was told to press 1 if I wanted to speak English. That is what makes me mad, Spanish speaking people should have to press 1 to speak Spanish. If I go to Mexico they do not even ask if I want to speak English on the phone. They assume I am in Mexico, so I must speak Spanish or not make a phone call.
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rlg94086
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Besides, support by the people for the content of this bill is stronger than some think…
apnews.myway.com/article/20070608/D8PKJ5K00.html
In fact, as John McCain put it recently, the status quo is a silent amnesty.
apnews.myway.com/article/20070608/D8PKJ5K00.html
What that tells me is that “amnesty” is a rallying cry, but it means different things to different people. Obviously, the 62 percent don’t believe that a path to citizenship is the same as amnesty.
In fact, as John McCain put it recently, the status quo is a silent amnesty.
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Grandpa D, I agree with everything you have said. Thanks for letting me know about how my senators voted. I called both of them. I think Coleman must have felt some pressure since he is up against a tough re-election bid.
I am really alarmed at how many people don’t care what happens to this country. Even Billy Crystal said that this bill would destroy the Republican Party and make this nation a one party system.
They put up thousands of units of subsidized housing in my town, and now I am frightened by the people that have moved here. I keep seeing scary, grungy looking people wherever I go now. There is a huge increase in old, beat up cars that don’t look safe to be on the road. I am afraid of going to the grocery store as I have been panhandled in the parking lot as well as in the store. I heard that only one tenth of the home burglaries get reported because people want to sell their houses before the word gets out that they have been burglarized. I’ve been warned to never go to Walmart at night. I love my home, but I am afraid that if I don’t sell and get out it too will lose its value. My town is getting seedier and seedier looking. Some Mexicans bought a well kept house that was painted a nice sage green. They put one coat of pink paint over it and sheets of plastic over the windows, and it looks like hell. Now they are trying to sell it. It has hurt the value of the other houses around it.
It is really hard for me to see my church leaders working for an immigration bill that is going to destroy the decent standard of living in America and bring it down to the level of a third world country. They apparently want to spread the poverty equally all over the world. MN Mary
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kellicouch77
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William Kristol is correct on his assumption about the Republican party being made inconsequential over this. The Dems only want to bring in a new lower class of society to subjugate and make instant Democrats.
All conservatives need to remember where our officials stood on this issue, and vote accordingly next time around. Many of those same politicians think we are too dumb to figure out what they do, and we need to show them that just isnt the case.
All conservatives need to remember where our officials stood on this issue, and vote accordingly next time around. Many of those same politicians think we are too dumb to figure out what they do, and we need to show them that just isnt the case.
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Yup!
I heard on the radio this afternoon some Sentors couldn’t get any work done this last week for the phone calls, faxes and people dropping by voicing their dislike of this bill!
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mary_bobo
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That is true. And I do not think it will get any better.
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mary_bobo
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I’m sure the vote is posted by now. A consultant friend sent it to me this afternoon, complete with marks of those senators running in '08, who changed their minds, etc. A number voted no to closing the debate because they promised when running that they would vote against amnesty. Some of them were Dems. There were others who voted for or against amnesty last year who changed their votes this year. Motto: don’t believe anything a politician says. I have the great feeling that some of them are going to be in trouble come election time.It’s kind of funny, but Bush always claimed to be a " uniter not a divider" when he was running for office. He wound up dividing this nation like never before, but alas he has finally united both Democrats and Republicans across the country against that awful amnesty bill!
I phoned my senators, but I don’t know how they voted yet. They were on the wrong side before, so I am assuming they didn’t change their positions. Norm Coleman (R) and Amy Klobuchar (D) were for the bill. MN Mary
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Minnesota_Mary
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Kellicouch, when my friends told me that “Billy Crystal” had said that the amnesty bill would be the end of the two party system, I thought they were talking about the movie star. Of course it was William Kristol. LOL!!!
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rlg94086
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I was going to tease you about that one, but I saw kellicouch’s post thought “naw, she’ll read that and see the error.”
The two Crystal/Kristols definitely aren’t similar in style or substance. But, I do admit to having laughed at both of them at some point.
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BobP123
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And where did you mention changing the 14th Amendment that currently makes EVERYONE born here a legal citizen, regardless of his mother’s status? Don’t you think that should be included on your list of grievances?
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Holly3278
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I agree with the bishops and will pray.
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