UK: Conservatives predicted to win election with commanding majority

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Absolutely huge.

I’ve just read that 65 seats are classed as ‘too close to call’ in the exit poll. I’m not sure how it’ll play out.
 
Lou2U said:
Good for Johnson if true, and appalling for Corbyn.
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An absolutely dire campaign by Labour, I’m an ex-Tory and thus prejudiced about the worst Tory Government for many, many decades but a competently led Labour should have walked it.
 
Labour has known for several years now that Corbyn was electoral poison, but the unions and Momentum have been living in a fantasy bubble. The last two GEs, even under Ed Miliband, would have delivered Labour victory.
 
As a Catholic on a Catholic forum, I have to enjoy this result. I know a few things about Johnson where I’m very glad he won.

I’m not for a hard Brexit, I think it needs to be fine tuned some… but it should get done.
 
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Kaninchen said:
I hadn’t thought that being a philandering liar would be seen as such an asset by Catholics.
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I see his strong opposition to the US withdrawal from NE Syria as being an asset.

What you are discussing happened years ago.
 
Besides, what decides on how I vote is what is best for the country.

I mean, I could list Mr. Corbyn’s faults too.

So, what does one do? Not vote at all?
 
Corbyn will certainly have to go. I can’t see how he’ll last, at all. There are also suggestions Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem leader, could be at risk of losing her seat. I’m incredibly surprised given everything that the Lib Dem campaign was as bad as it was. I thought they would have done a lot better.
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What you are discussing happened years ago.
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Boris Johnson being a liar is very much current, unfortunately. He’s done so all the way through this election period.
 
Lou2U said:
Corbyn will certainly have to go.
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The thing is that the period of his election and subsequently has seen a huge rise in like-minded membership of the Party to such an extent that Corbynism is structurally ingrained.
 
Kaninchen said:
The thing is that the period of his election and subsequently has seen a huge rise in like-minded membership of the Party to such an extent that Corbynism is structurally ingrained.
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That’s very true. It is interesting to see that Labour ‘sources’ are coming out and saying the main issue for voters was Corbyn. I don’t know how much that will translate through to the Party membership though.
 
They’ll have to do something rather quickly because the ‘Singapore’ policies that the Tories will embark on (Asian-style economy, post-welfare society) will make Labour increasingly irrelevant.

It took 5 years to establish the Welfare society after the war, it’ll take less than that to demolish it. Without it, what will Labour be ‘about’?
 
I still think that Brexit will get messed with somehow. One would think things were as simple as they appear, but one would not have counted on the number of MP’s of both parties who opposed their own constituents. I am not very convinced that issue is dead with this election. Look for the Remainers’ last throw here.

Corbyn held Labour back in this go around. Seems a good portion of the pro-Tory vote wasn’t so much pro-Tory as it was anti-Corbyn. But he remains firmly ensconced. Dunno if the party can put someone else there anytime soon.
 
I read an article on this lady of Indian ancestry, they say perhaps down the line, she will become PM. I’m not making a statement she will, that’s what the article was about. Patel is a common Hindu name, I’m not sure if that was it. I only read the article in the last 2 weeks, I’ve seen her at other times too.

I don’t know who would be waiting in the wings for Labour.

The poor boy on the hospital floor laying on coats suffering from pneumonia, I kept up with that story. I keep up with a lot of the stories and was there in the 1990s. So, I just want what is best for the country. And in fact, I lean more against Brexit. I hope if something occurs it’s a soft Brexit. It’s a big issue to sort out.
 
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NI and Scotland independence? Nice thought, that. But I highly doubt either of them will be admitted to the EU on their own as that would set a precedent some other EU countries would rather not see. Spain, for instance, is repressing the Catalonian independence movement rather strenuously and will not accept any precedent anywhere else in the EU that might help the Catalonians toward their own independence. So that makes at least one sure no-vote against either Scotland or NI.

NI might get back into the EU via merging with the Irish Republic, but I don’t see that happening for another generation or two if it ever happens. Assuming of course the EU is still around then.

Scotland is stuck though. Going it alone without funding from Westminster and no hope of joining the EU is not going to be an appetizing prospect.
 
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