UK Has Record High Abortions

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It is the highest number since the Abortion Act was introduced. The official annual report shows that the abortion rate was highest for women aged 22​

( Evangelical Focus ) In 2019, there were 207,384 abortions of women resident in England and Wales, the highest number since the Abortion Act was introduced in 1967.

The figures have been made public by the UK Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC).
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The monarchy(William and Harry) are alway concerned about the environment and population growth.

When asked about conservation did not Prince Phillip say in an interview if he could come back in reincarnation, he would come back as a deadly virus(to reduce population).
 
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They are the younger members of the monarchy and speak publicly on limiting family size and the environment.

Maybe it comes from the grandfather’s views.
 
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UK has a problem with abortion rates rising. Maybe you don’t see there is a link but it can’t help.
 
Constitutional monarchy is a very strange thing for those who don’t live under one.
“The monarch reigns but doesn’t rule” can be a bit of a headscratcher at first glance.
 
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Are we really trying to pin the reason for the increase in abortions to the royal family rather than ACTUAL issues like socioeconomic circumstances or relationship stability?
 
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Are we really trying to pin the reason for the increase in abortions to the royal family rather than ACTUAL issues like socioeconomic circumstances or relationship stability?
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No but it doesn’t help when respected members of the monarchy take on a cause and it is population control and the environment. They do get press coverage.

I will say I have never heard the queen bring up population control. It is mainly William and Harry.
 
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The details of the stats show abortion rates indeed, just like in the US, are higher in minority communities, though the US really has disparities. Progressive-ism on the march.
 
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Are we really trying to pin the reason for the increase in abortions to the royal family rather than ACTUAL issues like socioeconomic circumstances or relationship stability?
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No but it doesn’t help when respected members of the monarchy take on a cause and it is population control and the environment.

I will say I have never heard the queen bring up population control. It is mainly William and Harry.
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It makes zero difference what they do or don’t think. A woman finding herself pregnant is not going to be thinking ‘jeepers! I would probably keep this baby, but Prince Harry is a bit worried about the rainforest, so better not’.

In the real world, they worry about their jobs, their finances, the roof over their heads and affordable childcare.

The stats themselves show the biggest increase has been in the age 30-34 group. Something is fuelling the rise, and it’s not a royal family we keep for tradition and sake of appearance.

For starters, statutory maternity pay is only £600ish pounds a month. You don’t tend to care about ‘the environment’ when You literally can not afford to live on such a paltry amount.
 
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It makes zero difference what they do or don’t think. A woman finding herself pregnant is not going to be thinking ‘jeepers! I would probably keep this baby, but Prince Harry is a bit worried about the rainforest, so better not’.

In the real world, they worry about their jobs, their finances, the roof over their heads and affordable childcare.

The stats themselves show the biggest increase has been in the age 30-34 group. Something is fuelling the rise, and it’s not a royal family we keep for tradition and sake of appearance.

For starters, statutory maternity pay is only £600ish pounds a month. You don’t tend to care about ‘the environment’ when You literally can not afford to live on such a paltry amount.
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It is not helping that William and Harry both have taken this as a cause.
There has been a whole movement by environmentalist that do not want children so they can save the planet.

 
They are ‘not helping’ in the same way that hot Summer weather or not being able to eat soft cheese is ‘not helping’ when women are pregnant - the impact those things have on a woman’s decision making process are so small and insignificant, it’s not worth much conversation.
 
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They are ‘not helping’ in the same way that hot Summer weather or not being able to eat soft cheese is ‘not helping’ when women are pregnant - the impact those things have on a woman’s decision making process are so small and insignificant, it’s not worth much conversation.
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No it is not. Take a fashion symbol, have Kylie Jenner wear it on her outfit, next day everyone has to have it.

The Monarch are people of influence and not just in the UK but othe places as we can see by the amount of press we get on them here. The Queen understood that and I would imagine that William and Harry both understand their role of influence.
 
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No it is not. Take a fashion symbol, have Kylie Jenner wear it on her outfit, next day everyone has to have it.
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Im sorry, but the LIFE CHANGING decision on having a child or not is in no way comparable to buying an outfit. Quite how you came to think that was an appropriate example is very puzzling to me.
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The Monarch are people of influence and not just in the UK but othe places as we can see by the amount of press we get on them here. The Queen understood that and I would imagine that William and Harry both understand their role of influence.
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The American appetite for trash and gossip has nothing to do with actual abortion stats in the UK. If you want to solve the issue of abortion, i’d suggest spending your time looking into factors that actually have merit.

Lack of affordable housing, low statutory maternity pay, relationship instability, the cost of living, the cost of childcare, the lack of proper paternity leave, lowering of child benefits etc etc are actual problems contributing to abortion figures.

There are enough concrete, real life problems causing abortions, we don’t need to be looking for spurious ones to add to the list.
 
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No it is not. Take a fashion symbol, have Kylie Jenner wear it on her outfit, next day everyone has to have it.
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Im sorry, but the LIFE CHANGING decision on having a child or not is in no way comparable to buying an outfit. Quite how you came to think that was an appropriate example is very puzzling to me.
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The issue is do people of influence whether the are Kylie Jenner or William and Harry have an effect on the culture.

William and Harry have taken on the climate change, environment issue. Their grandfather said he’s like to come back in reincarnation as a deadly virus(to wipe out the population).

Their extremism on population has help bring about a group of people who are getting sterilized to protect the planet. It is not just innocent dialogue.

The rates of abortion are way up in the UK,. There is no culpability, no call to look at the issues and reduce the rate.
 
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There is no culpability, no call to look at the issues and reduce the rate.
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I am not at all knowledgeable about prolife causes in the UK. I admit that it is an ignorance on my part, I have only paid attention to abortion laws and prolife causes in the US. Are you knowledgeable about abortion laws and prolife causes in the UK? I’m curious, on what are you basing this statement that you have made?
 
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I can’t believe the problems are much different, lack of money, support etc.

They may not look at Phillips remarks but they do hear William and Harry’s. At a minimum, keep quiet on the effects of population on the planet.
 
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I am not at all knowledgeable about prolife causes in the UK. I admit that it is an ignorance on my part, I have only paid attention to abortion laws and prolife causes in the US. Are you knowledgeable about abortion laws and prolife causes in the UK? I’m curious, on what are you basing this statement that you have made?
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From BBC Octover 2019,

What is the abortion law in England, Scotland and Wales?​

Abortions can take place in the first 24 weeks of pregnancy in England, Scotland and Wales.

However, they have to be approved by two doctors. They must agree having the baby would pose a greater risk to the physical or mental health of the woman than a termination.

Abortions were illegal before the the introduction of the 1967 Abortion Act, which initially allowed them to take place up to 28 weeks. This was reduced to 24 weeks in 1990.

Abortions after 24 weeks are allowed only if:
  • the woman’s life is in danger
  • there is a severe fetal abnormality
  • the woman is at risk of grave physical and mental injury
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Apparently 210,000 women in the UK fit this.
 
My question had 2 parts. UK Abortion law AND prolife causes. Can you address the second part of my question?
 
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