UK -Tommy Robinson Driven Into Exile by Arson Attack; Suspects BLM

[gam197]

Not sure what they are, sound nasty. Might want to have a doctor look at that.
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No deflection. No sarcasm. The man stands to go to jail for 2 years on hearsay and also faces a lawsuit by the family.and monetary loss.

 

[gam197]

Racism is thrown out so easily today so it is difficult to tell. Words get taken out of context, hearsay becomes fact and that is why we have the courts and lawsuits.

The teenager’s family are seeking £100,000 in damages in the case, and Robinson would also be forced to pay substantial legal costs if he loses.

 

[gam197]

The two years in prison is for filming men (who sexually exploited young girls) outside a courthouse.

Tommy Robinson is facing a prison sentence after being found in contempt of court for “aggressively confronting and filming” defendants outside a criminal trial.

Two High Court judges ruled he had breached reporting restrictions by livestreaming footage of men accused of sexually exploiting young girls at Leeds Crown Court in May last year.

 

[gam197]

By filming two men outside of a courthouse. These are men who have been accused of sexually exploiting young girls.

Watch out press when it come to Ghislane Maxwell.

 

[_Ruby]

The two years in prison is for filming men (who sexually exploited young girls) outside a courthouse.

Tommy Robinson is facing a prison sentence after being found in contempt of court for “aggressively confronting and filming” defendants outside a criminal trial.

Two High Court judges ruled he had breached reporting restrictions by livestreaming footage of men accused of sexually exploiting young girls at Leeds Crown Court in May last year.

Tommy was found in contempt of court because there were a number of linked trials taking place in the case of girls who had been sexually exploited and abused.

There were restrictions on the media outside the court during the trials, because trials for some of the group were taking place whilst juries were deliberating on the verdict for the others accused.

As you know, a jury needs to be as impartial as possible and should only be influenced by the evidence presented in court. The reporting restrictions were put in place to try to preserve impartiality as much as possible since several trials were going on at the same time regarding the same gang.

If the jury can not be impartial, the defendants will walk free whilst the case is abandoned and then the whole process needs to start again. But Tommy didn’t actually care about getting justice through due process, he cared more about getting views on social media.

It is a joke to claim he was so concerned with making sure the men got punishment, and yet he was deliberately putting the whole trial at risk for the sake of his ego.

As it was reported:

‘’During the 2018 case at Leeds Crown Court, reporting restrictions had been put in place postponing the publication of any details until the end of a series of linked trials involving 29 defendants.

However, Robinson, 36, from Luton, broadcast footage from outside the court on 25 May 2018, while the jury in the second trial of the series was considering its verdict.

The video lasted an hour-and-a-half and was viewed online 250,000 times, after being live-streamed on Facebook.‘’

 

[gam197]

’During the 2018 case at Leeds Crown Court, reporting restrictions had been put in place postponing the publication of any details until the end of a series of linked trials involving 29 defendants.

However, Robinson, 36, from Luton, broadcast footage from outside the court on 25 May 2018, while the jury in the second trial of the series was considering its verdict.

The video lasted an hour-and-a-half and was viewed online 250,000 times, after being live-streamed on Facebook.‘’

So there were twenty nine (29 )defendants, again 29 defendants in a trial involcing underage girls, that sounds like was a major trial yet nothing was reported in the news in America.

To think we have one Epstein and it is everywhere. Who were these 29 defendants, how long of a trial and jail time did they get for sexually exploiting and abusing underage girls?

Really there has been nothing in the news here on this trial. That I find very odd. Why no press when it involved young girls? This should have been a major national news story. Not only that but a movie would also follow.

Why would Tommy Robinson feel the need to video tape the trial? I never ever heard of the story so maybe that is why, he felt no press was even covering the trial. And why was that? Has no one in the Uk heard of the #metoo movement?

 

[_Ruby]

So there were twenty nine (29 )defendants, again 29 defendants in a trial involcing underage girls, that sounds like was a major trial yet nothing was reported in the news in America.

Irrelevent.

To think we have one Epstein and it is everywhere. Who were these 29 defendants, how long of a trial and jail time did they get for sexually exploiting and abusing underage girls?

Really there has been nothing in the news here on this trial. That I find very odd. Why no press when it involved young girls? This should have been a major national news story.

Yes, Epstein is a high profile American, not random men from the UK, it is no surprise he gets more attention in your press.

The story of the UK underage girls was massive here and dominated the news for months and months, the repercussions of the way the police etc handled it are still being discussed today.

A quick google would have answered all your questions. 20 men were convicted of rape and abuse against 15 girls in October of 2018. The men were convicted of more than 120 offences against 15 girls, and jailed for a total of 221 years

Not only that but a movie would also follow.

This is extremely crass.

Why would Tommy Robinson feel the need to video tape the trial? I never ever heard of the story so maybe that is why, he felt no press was even covering the trial. And why was that?

Gam, you didn’t hear the story because you live in another country thousands of miles away. It was ALL over the UK press for months and months and months. Robinson’s need for media attention meant that he didn’t care that we was jeopardising the other trials, all he cared about was bringing his profile up.

Has no one in the Uk heard of the #metoo movement?

This is a silly question.

 

[EmilyAlexandra]

The appeals court in the UK has said the at buffer zones are fine and now there are 4 counties that have buffer zones and more to be added.

Do you have a source for these exclusions zones existing in four counties? I am aware of exclusion zones in the London Borough of Ealing, the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames, and the city and metropolitan borough of Manchester. Ealing and Richmond upon Thames are part of the county of Greater London, and Manchester is part of the county of Greater Manchester. So that would be three exclusion zones in relatively small areas of two counties (for example, Ealing accounts for about 3.5% of the total area of Greater London).

 

[PickyPicky]

So there were twenty nine (29 )defendants, again 29 defendants in a trial involcing underage girls, that sounds like was a major trial yet nothing was reported in the news in America

This Is unsurprising. American news outlets seem to think Americans are uninterested in news from outside America. And, do you know, they might just be right.

It may well be that Europeans are ignorant about American affairs — I’m hardly in a position to judge. But certainly it is a commonplace on these forums that many Americans hold very strong views about European matters, frequently based on a remarkable degree of ignorance.

But holding Tommy Robinson to be a sadly misunderstood victim just about takes the cake.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Sounds akin to Gish Gallop.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

I am asking what the legal codes are for deflamation cases. I have no idea of legal rights to social media or paypal in the UK or in the USA for that matter. No court cases have come up but I am sure they will.

In the USA, corporations have the rights of persons. This has no implication of the rights of corps in any other countries.

 

[gam197]

gam197:

So there were twenty nine (29 )defendants, again 29 defendants in a trial involcing underage girls, that sounds like was a major trial yet nothing was reported in the news in America .

Irrelevent.

Not irrelevant. Who are these 29 men who attacked young girls?

Yes, Epstein is a high profile American, not random men from the UK, it is no surprise he gets more attention in your press.

The story of the UK underage girls was massive here and dominated the news for months and months, the repercussions of the way the police etc handled it are still being discussed today.

A quick google would have answered all your questions. 20 men were convicted of rape and abuse against 15 girls in October of 2018. The men were convicted of more than 120 offences against 15 girls, and jailed for a total of 221 years

Well it never made the news here. I have no idea who these men are? Epstein yes, Weinstein though not underage, still a predator, yes.

gam197:

Not only that but a movie would also follow.

This is extremely crass.

No it is not. That is what is on Netflix. Have you heard of Ted Bundy. Have you heard of Columbine? They make movies about people like Epstein and a gang of 29 convicted girl child sexual predators, yes a movie.

Gam, you didn’t hear the story because you live in another country thousands of miles away. It was ALL over the UK press for months and months and months. Robinson’s need for media attention meant that he didn’t care that we was jeopardising the other trials, all he cared about was bringing his profile up.

Have you heard of Epstein? Have you hears of Harvery Weinstin?

gam197:

Has no one in the Uk heard of the #metoo movement?

This is a silly question.

.Well I am glad you think it is silly. This case of twenty nine men who were caught abusing young girls and nothing.

 

[gam197]

Not US news. We do get news from the UK on our tv’s and I assure something like 29 men abusing young girls especially after ther metoo movement should have been covered but it was not, so I have to question why was this not a highly publicized case in the US.

Again I don’t want to get off topic but if Tommy Robinson did some video, I have not seen it and I am sure others have not. I am having no problem with him taking videos of these evil people. How old were these girls and how did they come by them?

We had a case of Robert Kraft seeking a prostitute and the age os the girl became big news, whether she was over age 18.

 

[Kaninchen]

But holding Tommy Robinson to be a sadly misunderstood victim just about takes the cake.

Perhaps a case of: “he only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases!”

 

[gam197]

The point is he nearly derailed the case - do you simply not grasp that or understand what that would have entailed?
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No I cannot. I cannot grasp sending a man to jail for video taping 29 girl child molesters. I cannot grasp Epstein or Maxwell.

I get they think he may have caused a derailment in the case but why would video taping outside a courthouse derail anything. Thousands of photos of Epstein and Maxwell will be out there. Maxwell will be all over the internet on just about every social platform. No one is concerned about video taping outside a courthouse.

When I have time, I will look up your case but I cannot understand it at the moment. It overwhelms me to think you having problems with Tommy Robinson’s video taping and yet fail to name the men who did all this horrible stuff.

 

[Kaninchen]

I wasn’t talking about Yaxley-Lennon

It’s not really fair of me, I suppose, since I only see half of the conversation (your interlocutor being one of the people on my ignore list, I don’t see what you’re responding to).

 

[gam197]

He may be but what are the names of the 29 men who did horrible crimes to girls, you have not mentioned. I will reserve judgement until I get time to research it.

 

[gam197]

gam197:

The appeals court in the UK has said the at buffer zones are fine and now there are 4 counties that have buffer zones and more to be added.

Do you have a source for these exclusions zones existing in four counties? I am aware of exclusion zones in the London Borough of Ealing, the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames, and the city and metropolitan borough of Manchester. Ealing and Richmond upon Thames are part of the county of Greater London, and Manchester is part of the county of Greater Manchester. So that would be three exclusion zones in relatively small areas of two counties (for example, Ealing accounts for about 3.5% of the total area of Greater London).

These were mentioned in a video that was posted on one thread. The video was in parliament and one member of parliament asked each member of parliament if their area would also be using exclusion zones and they all replied yes. I will find video and post. Yes there are 4 major areas where pro lifers are having their freedom of speech taken away by using much larger buffer zones than the US. We had 35 feet buffer zones while you have 100 to 330 buffer zones.

 

[gam197]

Again I will look at it and do some research but not currectly. Twenty men who are NOT blokes but ABUSERS of little girls. This is so sick. Disgusting. Overwhelmed by the topic. I will get back later.

 

[_Ruby]

Well it never made the news here. I have no idea who these men are? Epstein yes, Weinstein though not underage, still a predator, yes.

Have you heard of Epstein? Have you hears of Harvery Weinstin?

Its a ridiculous comparison. 29 general members of the public in the UK are not on the same publicity level as Epstein or Weinstein.

Well I am glad you think it is silly. This case of twenty nine men who were caught abusing young girls and nothing.

It is silly. A high profile UK case made the news for a long time in the UK and you are claiming it was ‘nothing’ because it didn’t make your news.

Jharek has given you the links to educate yourself on the case. We are again at an impasse where further engagement on this topic is fruitless because you wont read the information provided to you.