Unamerican Secret Trial presided by Democrat Adam Schiff

[dvdjs]

heir facts, but in actual facts.

How do you discern which among the facts that have been contested on this thread are “actual”?

 

[dvdjs]

how people feel about Trump outside of his rallies,

This is sorry spectacle, but a good reminder to those who tout Tump’s rallies as being indicative of his great popularity.

 

[PickyPicky]

How do you discern which among the facts that have been contested on this thread are “actual”?

Well, zippedee doo-dah, they’re the ones that are satisfactual, I imagine.

 

[dvdjs]

satisfactual

Perfect. …

 

[PaulinVA]

A Newsweek article about a baseball game in the DC area. Anecdotal at best.

Oh, Woody. Really? Do you think that saying Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in Syria yesterday is truthful news, or an anecdote?

Saying Trump was booed and chants of “lock him up” breaking out is truthful. There is actual evidence all over Twitter and news web sites. Here’s one below that has an actual video of the event.

Really, when you think about it, we are taking Trump’s anecdotal word that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed, when we actually can see Trump being booed.

Trump booed at World Series and chants of "Lock him up!" break out

Some fans held signs saying "VETERANS FOR IMPEACHMENT" AND "IMPEACH TRUMP"

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Woodyl57]

Actually all I am saying is @JonNC should keep up his argument. All you said was basically the same stuff you criticized him others for. We have the facts, your just repeating yourself, his rally sizes don’t matter.

You can still be a trump “disliker” (don’t want to use H word and get banned) and not ignore the facts. Especially your ‘satisfactual’ ones. Perfect… Lol.

 

[JonNC]

But they will. A full hearing and an impeachment vote is coming.
They are not allowing a circus.

They are a circus.
Once they have a vote. Once they turn it over to the senate, integrity will prevail over the narrative of lies by the Democrats and the MSM (but I repeat myself).

 

[Maximus1]

They are a circus?
The secret investigation precludes that( it was approved by the court a few days ago)
Once impeached, the HOUSE MANAGERS will prosecute in the Senate.
Roberts will preside.
Schiff looks like one of the prosecutors. He is quite capable.
They have enough to convict, but the continued Investigation should bring ramification to Senators who vote. Significant enough to affect the election

 

[HarryStotle]

As soon as I saw the headline for this thread, I knew that any corresponding “article” would be from Breitbart or some other discredited hyper-partisan outfit. It’s sad that a Catholic forum permits this type of unseemly propaganda.

Name a NOT “hyper-partisan” outfit that ought to be used.

Might I suggest RealClearInvestigations?

Highlights: RealClearInvestigations' Original Coverage | RealClearInvestigations

Major news media today are advancing ideologically shaped narratives across major areas of public interest -- government, the economy, culture, education, science, biology. Because of the resulting...

www.realclearinvestigations.com

 

[Cathoholic]

Mulligan2 . . . .

As soon as I saw the headline for this thread, I knew that any corresponding “article” would be from Breitbart or some other discredited hyper-partisan outfit

And went on to refer to it as “unseemly propaganda”.

Yet just 18 hours ago you were appealing to trumpgolfcount.com to derive national security “information”.

Statement from the President on the Death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi World News

The raid, as reported, took place at 3:30 PM Washington time. According to the website www.trumpgolfcount.com, Trump didn’t leave his golf course until 3:33 PM. The supposed photo from the White House situation room that the WH photographer posted, as shown in the camera IPTC data, was taken at “17:05:24”. So Trump was at the golf course during the raid, and then afterwards had the photographer take and post a staged photo. But as Trump himself says starting around the 1:30 mark of the following…

 

[HarryStotle]

I am sorry, I cannot dignify your post with a response.

And after stating such you “dignify” my post with a response. Too funny.

So just watching the OJ trial makes you more capable of understanding jury nullification than most? Also too funny.

We do not have the transcript, just a hypnotic form of fraud?

I suppose the Mueller Report was not the report either, just another form of fraud. Perhaps Mueller was also a Russian asset like Tulsi Gabbard or Jill Stein?

Yeah the Dems are always “forced” to do stuff.

They were “forced” to attack Kavanaugh, Schiff was “forced” to lie about the whistleblower, the DNC was “forced” to give Hillary debate questions beforehand, the DNC were “forced” not to turn over their hacked server to the FBI, etc., etc.,

Perhaps the Dems quest for power at all costs merely makes their options appear to be “forced” when if they had the actual good of the people in mind rather than their own interests, the compulsion they feel wouldn’t be so determinative for them.

 

[JonNC]

They are a circus?

Yes. They are.

Once impeached, the HOUSE MANAGERS will prosecute in the Senate.
Roberts will preside.
Schiff looks like one of the prosecutors. He is quite capable.

He would be the first witness I would call in defense of the president. I would subpoena every paper, text, email regarding his contact with the whistleblower. I would put him under oath, as well as every one of his staffers.

They have enough to convict, but the continued Investigation should bring ramification to Senators who vote. Significant enough to affect the election

They have zero to convict on. Nothing. There was no quid pro quo. There is absolutely nothing.

 

[HarryStotle]

Schiff looks like one of the prosecutors. He is quite capable.

Too funny.

 

[JonNC]

If you really want to know how people feel about Trump outside of his rallies, here’s an example:

So now impeachment is about feelings?
Hold your feelings to the election. That’s when you can exercise your feelings, though that not my approach.
Personally, if the last election was about how I felt about the candidates, i wouldn’t have voted at all. I voted based on who I believe will best defend my individual rights. I think Trump has proven it to be the best choice.

I’ve stopped responding to your posts on this thread because you are just saying the same things over and over again, and they are just partisan rants.

Give me a break. I have to say the same truths to respond to the same propaganda.

I realize you a fervent Trump supporter, but you can still support Trump while acknowledging the truth.

That’s where you are wrong. Trump was no where near my first choice. I just don’t want to see my vote stripped from me by those who didn’t like the outcome.

 

[JonNC]

It is to bad some cannot accept the truth.

I’m sure you might in time.

This was an unforced error on Trump’s part, so to speak.
Who in America didn’t know a president cannot ask a foreign president to help with election issues after Russia?

So, you have those words. Trump said to Zelensky he had to help with the election. I haven’t seen those words. The transcript says absolutely nothing like that. There has been no source saying that. But you know.
Sure you do.

You say his accusers are lying, but I see only testimony under oath, transcripts, admissions and action.

So much for a secret inquiry.
Truth: there has been nothing of the sort.

 

[JonNC]

Maximus1 to Cathoholic . . .

Stop carrying water for Putin.

It’s all they’ve got, Cathaholic. If you’re not a racist you’re carrying water for Putin.

The danger is how successful will he be consolidating authoritarian power in 4 years. BECAUSE HE IS NOT STOPPING OR SLOWING DOWN

Authoritarian?
Authoritarian is government dictated healthcare and making private insurance illegal.

Authoritarian is promising to confiscate, by force if necessary, the arms of the law abiding citizen.

Authoritarian is using government power to isolate an organization dedicated to the individual rights of Americans.

Authoritarian is the Green New Deal.
Authoritarianism is what progressivism becomes.

 

[Maximus1]

The new Catechism will have sin that is environmental. So get ready.
Authoritarian I none of the things you mentioned. I guess you oppose them so it is as good as any other word. As long as you avoid definitions.
Personally, I will stay on the Catholic side of these issues.

 

[Maximus1]

And today Pelosi removed the only GOP defense of procedure. There is no substantive defense.
I am sorry, the “I don’t see those words” defense won’t work. Many decades in courtrooms makes that clear. Only on the Levin or Hannity show. So far, no defense on the facts exist. All they can say is this:
Yes he had a quid pro quo to extort a public statement of investigating Biden plus two investigations, all to help me personally, or no money to fight Russia.
They will be forced to admit this. Then say it is not impeachable. THATS ALL THEY HAVE!
And there is no transcript. It is a summary, allegedly. Today the guy who will enlighten on that subject was hidden. But he will be coming. This is impeachment.

 

[Maximus1]

Picking juries for 30 years. OJ was an example for your benefit.

 

[JonNC]

The new Catechism will have sin that is environmental. So get ready

Taking care of our world has always been important. The GND is a political device to increase government power, not protect the environment.

Authoritarian I none of the things you mentioned. I guess you oppose them so it is as good as any other word.

Of course they are. Authoritarianism limits individual rights in favor of government power. All of the things I mentioned fo exactly that.

As long as you avoid definitions.

Here’s the definition.

favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom: