Unamerican Secret Trial presided by Democrat Adam Schiff

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Maximus1 said:
The new Catechism will have sin that is environmental. So get ready.
Authoritarian I none of the things you mentioned. I guess you oppose them so it is as good as any other word. As long as you avoid definitions.
Personally, I will stay on the Catholic side of these issues.
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Sorry, but this doesn’t make any sense.
 
Hillary’s debate questions only saves Trump on Hannity. Just like the other irrelevancies you raised.
Trump is unfit and must be impeached. Ambitions are not relevant.
 
That is not authoritarian. In a Constitutional Republic the citizens can vote for it.
Individuals are free to vote laws and other things. Sorry.
Trump is not environment friendly. So stop right there.
 
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The GOP is hiding, but they will have to admit quid pro quo. After that only you and Hannity will be able to deny.
 
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Personally, I will stay on the Catholic side of these issues.
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Government dictated healthcare will
Include abortion on demand, abortifacients, eventually euthanasia and assisted suicide. That’s an odd definition of the Catholic side of things.
 
All of the world’s advanced Capitalist Democratic nation’s with representive government) already have universal care. So they can outcompete those who do not. We are the only advanced industrial nation that does not have it.
And they don’t all have your list of fear issues.
 
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Hiding means GOP Senators are avoiding all substance. But they cannot forever. Pelosi I going to put them on the record.
Schiff hiding till Thursday make me chuckle. Expiring Trump defenses.
 
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What can you proove about the Whistleblower. Lol. He was incredibly accurate in his entire report. Besides, you cannot put a witness on ( like Schiff only to impeach him. Which is what you are trying to do).
There is no defense to quid pro quo. Even though quid pro quo is not necessary to impeach.
 
JonNC (here)
. . . Authoritarian is the Green New Deal.
Authoritarianism is what progressivism becomes.
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Maximus1 talking to JonNC about the Green New Deal (from a prior post again, here is that link showing JonNC’s comments) . . . .

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Maximus1 . . .
The new Catechism will have sin that is environmental. . . .
Authoritarian I (sic) none of the things you mentioned. . . .
. . . Personally, I will stay on the Catholic side of these issues.
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To the readers here.
  1. Notice how the Green New Deal morphs into the “Catechism” and “environmental sins”, which morphs into “Catholicism” (“the Catholic side of these issues”).
This is a distortion of some truths.

It is the fallacy of equivocation.
  1. The other thing it does is artificially melts politics and religion.
The CCC warns us of this political messianism in CCC 675-676.

Maximus1.
  1. The other issue I have here is the implication of somehow Jon is missing out spiritually on THIS ISSUE (the environmental issue here) somehow because he is not agreeing with you.
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I disagree on all three issues raised.
 
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Maximus1 on him attempting to pass off The Green New Deal as Catholicism . . .
A distortion why?
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If you can’t see why, a pep talk from me isn’t going to help.

You will just have to take it or leave it I guess.
 
Great explanation.
And I didn’t attempt to pass on the Green New Deal as CATHOLOCISM.
First, we have been given a heads up that there will be environmental/ conservation teachings from the church. And sin was mentioned. That is what I referred to. But we don’t know what those teachings will be yet.
AOC cannot be compatible with CATHOLOCISM is a new fallacy. The Hannity/ Fox fallacy.lol
 
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Maximus1 . . .
there will be environmental/ conservation teachings from the church. And sin was mentioned. That is what I referred to. But we don’t know what those teachings will be yet.
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There are ALREADY environmental sins.

People (even Churchmen) cannot add to the deposit of faith. You know that.

Yes they can develop what we already have.

But then WHY suggest @JonNC would be out of touch with that regarding his faith life? (“Personally, I will stay on the Catholic side of these issues.”)

And all of this in the context of the Green New Deal, which right now is only a nebulous set of rapidly changing musings.

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The Hannity/ Fox fallacy.lol
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To other readers here.

I rest my case.
 
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The green New deal came up in the context of a claim that it was totalitarianism.
I said it was not totalitarian. Protection of the environment is not totalitarian and I gave a general reference to the Churches environmental affinity.
Environmentalism always costs money or expenditure of some resource or choice not to exploit a resource. For example, " fix the Amazon " in some fashion.
It is a good question. Should have maybe asked it initially?
 
Maximus1 . . .
The green New deal came up in the context of a claim that it was totalitarianism.
I said it was not totalitarian. Protection of the environment is not totalitarian
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The equivocation here goes from the Green New Deal. . . . to “protection of the environment”.

They are not equivalent.

The degree of totalitarianism that comes associated with the ENFORCEMENT of one of the Green New Deals would be a discussion in and of itself.
 
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The claim I addressed was a claim that the green New deal is totalitarianism. I said it was not. Along with other examples that are not. Like universal health care. An interloper(?) then began a different discussion about the distinctions between CATHOLOCISM and the GND.
I have no idea what degree of totalitarianism you speak of.
I guess if a dictator imposes it that is one thing. If it is instituted via representive government, that is another thing.
All lawis binding. That does not make it totalitarian.
 
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Maximus1 said:
The GOP is hiding, but they will have to admit quid pro quo. After that only you and Hannity will be able to deny.
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You may want to pay attention to Sydney Powell’s filings on behalf of General Flynn that the FBI (specifically Lisa Page) altered the 302 after the fact and in direct contradiction to the investigator’s notes on the interview. There is also evidence from emails/texts that she did so with intent.


This has the potential to blow completely open the entire Spygate fiasco. I wouldn’t go around declaring too much, you might end up eating a great chunk of humble pie.
 
Maximus1 said:
The green New deal came up in the context of a claim that it was totalitarianism.
I said it was not totalitarian. Protection of the environment is not totalitarian and I gave a general reference to the Churches environmental affinity.
Environmentalism always costs money or expenditure of some resource or choice not to exploit a resource. For example, " fix the Amazon " in some fashion.
It is a good question. Should have maybe asked it initially?
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Well, my friend, if the taxpayers of America knew precisely how much of their money is currently and simply being transferred to others as “transfer income,” they may want to consider seriously who they vote for.

https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/...ams-transfer-income-projected-hit-record-fy20

We are nearing a critical point in society when more than half of actual voters are more inclined to want benefits than to pay in support of them. At that point, society will fall into a Venezuela type of economic down-spiral that will be disastrous for everyone who is not part of the ruling elite.

Totalitarianism isn’t something that people agree to, it is an inevitable part of the socialist program that just comes about at some point.

Careful what you wish for.
 
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Maximus1 (talking about civil law, not Divine Law) . . .
All lawis binding.
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This is an example of the religion of secular humanism in my opinion. (We all pick up bits and pieces of this sort of thinking in our culture today. Don’t fall for it Maximus1.)

This is false and illustrates just what I said about political messianism.
CCC 675 Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.
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CCC 676 The Antichrist’s deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the “intrinsically perverse” political form of a secular messianism.
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Bold mine.

Lex iniusta non est lex – St. Augustine
 
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