Understanding the Trinity

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It’s quite simple T2. The Trinity is clearly established as One God. Be still and at rest my friend. 🙂

“Truly my soul finds rest in God; my salvation comes from him.” :harp:

Trinity is a shining mystery: “As only three, each is contained in the other, so that there is only one light, given the intimate interpenetration” (St. John Damascene). 🙂

MJ
I’m talking about the new Revelations that come from Bahá’u’lláh, I understand the Trinity pretty well .🙂
 
This new Revelation should be even clearer than the Bible or the Koran,but I can’t make Heads or Tails of it.
It’s because you are reading the equivalent of RCIA graduation material without having attended the first 6 months of the program 🙂

There are no clergy in the Baha’i Faith because this is the Day of God, a Day where education and an ability to acquire knowledge is available to all.

There are jungle villagers in Vanuatu who understand this Revelation…

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This new Revelation should be even clearer than the Bible or the Koran,but I can’t make Heads or Tails of it.
The explanation is known and understood by many a Baha’i Child, so that is an interesting comment.

regards Tony
 
XXXII: That which thou hast heard concerning…

That which thou hast heard concerning Abraham, the Friend of the All-Merciful, is the truth, and no doubt is there about it. The Voice of God commanded Him to offer up **Ishmael **as a sacrifice, so that His steadfastness in the Faith of God and His detachment from all else but Him may be demonstrated unto men. The purpose of God, moreover, was to sacrifice him as a ransom for the sins and iniquities of all the peoples of the earth. This same honor, Jesus, the Son of Mary, besought the one true God, exalted be His name and glory, to confer upon Him. For the same reason was Ḥusayn offered up as a sacrifice by Muḥammad, the Apostle of God.

I don’t understand any of this. 🤷
 
XXXII: That which thou hast heard concerning…

That which thou hast heard concerning Abraham, the Friend of the All-Merciful, is the truth, and no doubt is there about it. The Voice of God commanded Him to offer up **Ishmael **as a sacrifice, so that His steadfastness in the Faith of God and His detachment from all else but Him may be demonstrated unto men. The purpose of God, moreover, was to sacrifice him as a ransom for the sins and iniquities of all the peoples of the earth. This same honor, Jesus, the Son of Mary, besought the one true God, exalted be His name and glory, to confer upon Him. For the same reason was Ḥusayn offered up as a sacrifice by Muḥammad, the Apostle of God.

I don’t understand any of this. 🤷
It has nothing to do with the Trinity Techno

Maybe you wanna start a new thread called “I can’t understand the Baha’i Writings”?
Or “Understanding the Baha’i Writings”??

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It has nothing to do with the Trinity Techno

Maybe you wanna start a new thread called “I can’t understand the Baha’i Writings”?
Or “Understanding the Baha’i Writings”??

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This part Does :

**Jesus, the Son of Mary, besought the one true God, exalted be His name and glory, to confer upon Him. **

He’s saying that Jesus is only the son of Mary.
 
I’m talking about the new Revelations that come from Bahá’u’lláh, I understand the Trinity pretty well .🙂
The Revelation was never new as it existed from the beginning of time The Trinity is a living Testament that we are experiencing everyday when we start pray ( the Salvation promised to us for our entry into Heaven) with the sign of the Cross, In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (the Person- firmly established at the Council of Constantinople) .

So that’s why I said to be at rest, when we are indeed resting in God. 🙂

Look nowhere else.

MJ
 
This part Does :

**Jesus, the Son of Mary, besought the one true God, exalted be His name and glory, to confer upon Him. **

He’s saying that Jesus is only the son of Mary.
No it didn’t say “ONLY the Son of Mary”
It said “THE Son of Mary”

Please also note the word “Son” has a capital S which in the Baha’i Writings denotes Divinity.

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More from the First Council of Constantinople (381): “This is the Faith of our baptism that teaches us to believe in the Name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. According to this Faith there is one Godhead, Power, and Being of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”****

MJ
 
The Revelation was never new as it existed from the beginning of time The Trinity is a living Testament that we are experiencing everyday when we start pray ( the Salvation promised to us for our entry into Heaven) with the sign of the Cross, In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (the Person- firmly established at the Council of Constantinople) .

So that’s why I said to be at rest, when we are indeed resting in God. 🙂

Look nowhere else.

MJ
I’m Talking about this Revelation :

“Revelation” writing

Bahá’u’lláh would sometimes recite with such rapidity that His secretary could barely keep up with the flow of His words. Afterwards, the secretary would occasionally be unable to read his own handwriting and would ask Bahá’u’lláh to help decipher the words.

Leaf from the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf (Lawh-i-Ibn-i-Dhi’b), in the "Revelation"handwriting of Mirza Aqa Jan, the secretary of Bahá’u’lláh.

bahaullah.org/tablets/revelation-writing
 
No it didn’t say “ONLY the Son of Mary”
It said “THE Son of Mary”

Please also note the word “Son” has a capital S which in the Baha’i Writings denotes Divinity.

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Show me where in Bahá’u’lláh’s Revelation writings that he, or the spirits speaking through him says Jesus is God… like the Catholic Church does ?
 
This part Does :

**Jesus, the Son of Mary, besought the one true God, exalted be His name and glory, to confer upon Him. **

He’s saying that Jesus is only the son of Mary.
Jesus is the only son of Mary. It is proven with scripture and Church teaching
 
I’m Talking about this Revelation :

“Revelation” writing

Bahá’u’lláh would sometimes recite with such rapidity that His secretary could barely keep up with the flow of His words. Afterwards, the secretary would occasionally be unable to read his own handwriting and would ask Bahá’u’lláh to help decipher the words.

Leaf from the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf (Lawh-i-Ibn-i-Dhi’b), in the "Revelation"handwriting of Mirza Aqa Jan, the secretary of Bahá’u’lláh.

bahaullah.org/tablets/revelation-writing
Yes indeed this is a miracle given the poetic beauty of His Revelation, isn’t it?

Sometimes the Revelation would flow continuously for hours at which time up to 8 secretaries were required to record it.
 
Yes indeed this is a miracle given the poetic beauty of His Revelation, isn’t it?

Sometimes the Revelation would flow continuously for hours at which time up to 8 secretaries were required to record it.
Abstract Poetry
 
Show me where in Bahá’u’lláh’s Revelation writings that he, or the spirits speaking through him says Jesus is God… like the Catholic Church does ?
"Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare: “I am God,” He, verily, speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto." - Baha’u’llah

But this does not mean that Jesus was the Essence of God, but it does mean He was the Word, and it is through the Word that Creation came into existence.

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I know that but Bahá’u’lláh doesn’t acknowledge that he is also the only begotten Son of God.
Excuse me sir. You should learn about the foundations of your religion!

According to the Torah there were other “begotten Sons of God”

Read read read brother 🙂
Blind faith is dead faith…

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"Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare: “I am God,” He, verily, speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto." - Baha’u’llah

But this does not mean that Jesus was the Essence of God, but it does mean He was the Word, and it is through the Word that Creation came into existence.

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Right, Jesus was just one of many " Manifestations of God " know big deal more will come along.
 
Right, Jesus was just one of many " Manifestations of God " know big deal more will come along.
I can count the Manifestations of God that we know of in all of history in my two hands.

It’s a massive deal.

There have been trillions and trillions and trillions of people who have roamed this earth, but only less than 10 Manifestations of God.

But only one Essence of God.

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