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niceatheist
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Exactly, every war has been a regional war, many of which are proxy wars, but a large scale direct conflict between the nuclear powers is inconceivable. It won’t happen.
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Annie
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God does not want us to rely on His performing miracles… He gave us minds to use them.
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undead_rat
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And He gave us our marching orders: To love and trust in our Creator, and to love our neighbors. Building a nuclear bomb is a defiance of those orders.God does not want us to rely on His performing miracles… He gave us minds to use them.
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undead_rat
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Well, it has come very close to happening several times.Exactly, every war has been a regional war, many of which are proxy wars, but a large scale direct conflict between the nuclear powers is inconceivable. It won’t happen.
Furthermore, Scripture says that it will happen.
My opinion, based on a 1595 prophecy, is that WW III takes place in the 1st half of the 21st century.
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undead_rat
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The USA is a real democracy, and the politicians have to bow to the will of the people. So, if we all want our country to dismantle and destroy its nuclear weapons, the government has no choice but to comply with the decision of the electorate.Basically what I am saying is that nuclear disarmament is more or less unfeasible in our world.
Unilateral nuclear disarmament on the part of the USA would prevent the unprecedented catastrophe of global nuclear war.
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FirstFiveEighth
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No it wouldn’t. That is a fantasy. Moreover, the people of the United States will never vote to destroy every last nuclear warhead in our arsenal because Americans understand that they deter direct confrontation by other major powers. Pretending that the US getting rid of nukes will avert guaranteed nuclear war is nonsense. The biggest threat to nuclear war is somebody like Iran or Pakistan anyways.
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undead_rat
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but, as I have pointed out, Holy Scripture says otherwise. If you choose not to believe those warnings, that’s your own business.
You are right that the US electorate will not vote to eliminate the USA’s nuclear weapons. But that is because they continue to believe their government’s lie that our nukes are necessary for our safety when exactly the opposite is true.
For see how YHWH comes in fire,
His chariots like the tempest
to assuage His anger with burning,
His threats with brilliant fire.
For by fire will YHWH execute Judgement,
and by His sword against all mankind.
The victims of YHWH will be many.
That is not a fantasy, my friend. It is the reality of what we are really up against.
You are right that the US electorate will not vote to eliminate the USA’s nuclear weapons. But that is because they continue to believe their government’s lie that our nukes are necessary for our safety when exactly the opposite is true.
For see how YHWH comes in fire,
His chariots like the tempest
to assuage His anger with burning,
His threats with brilliant fire.
For by fire will YHWH execute Judgement,
and by His sword against all mankind.
The victims of YHWH will be many.
That is not a fantasy, my friend. It is the reality of what we are really up against.
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TheNoseKnows
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I have a gun to your head and you have one to mine, you say this situation is bad, I agree, but who will put their gun down first? Me? I should think not! If I put mine down, but you don’t I’m dead, you won’t put yours down for the same reasoning, and thus nukes will sadly always exist.
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undead_rat
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Yes, you should put down your gun first. That is your only chance for survival. BTW, the argument that the Russians would launch a nuclear strike against a non-nuclear USA does not really make sense. The Russians have their own nuclear force for the same reason that the USA does. fear of the other country’s nukes and not out of any insane desire to destroy another country on the opposite side of the world.
Nukes will not “always exist.” Unfortunately for the world, they are predicted by our Holy Scriptures to be used. That use will put an end to them and to most of humanity as well.
Nukes will not “always exist.” Unfortunately for the world, they are predicted by our Holy Scriptures to be used. That use will put an end to them and to most of humanity as well.
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FirstFiveEighth
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Sorry man, but your claim that the Bible prophesies nuclear war is just you reading your own bias into the text. That is no different than those who say they have deciphered the exact date of the end of days from Revelation. Obviously no one wants nuclear war. But i think you might want to step back from declaring the final judgement via nukes. It is constraining on God to claim you know that he will “destroy his enemies” with the man-designed nuclear warhead. And if you are right and the Bible does say that nuclear war will be the final judgment, then there is nothing you or I can do about it. It will be God’s will.
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Road-Worrier
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Scriptures don’t make predictions, they make prophesies which means, if your interpretation is correct, it’s going to happen.Nukes will not “always exist.” Unfortunately for the world, they are predicted by our Holy Scriptures to be used. That use will put an end to them and to most of humanity as well.
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Theo520
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Only if you are trying to be difficult.lives through deterrence.
It is not proven that nuclear weapons have prevented a world war. That is speculation. The world has experienced many regional wars since 1945.
Find me an expert on geopolitical history that claims they haven’t saved lives.
I’ve only seen them make the claim i shared
Don’t live in denial of basic facts
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niceatheist
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First of all, I don’t believe in the veracity of Scriptural prophecy. Second of all, there is nothing in what you have quoted that says nuclear weapons. It could just be flower metaphorical language.
If we were going to blow ourselves with nukes, we would have done it during the cold War, but we didn’t, because nations, however much they may thump their chests, are rational actors.
People have been invoking passages like this for 2000 years to prop up their doomsday cult predictions.
If we were going to blow ourselves with nukes, we would have done it during the cold War, but we didn’t, because nations, however much they may thump their chests, are rational actors.
People have been invoking passages like this for 2000 years to prop up their doomsday cult predictions.
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Dr_Meinheimer
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You needed our nukes to know that?
Which part of legalized abortion, gay “marriage” and pornography didn’t tip you off already?
Which part of legalized abortion, gay “marriage” and pornography didn’t tip you off already?
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upant
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so why waste your time arguing if they will be used. you will obviously not win the argument because if you did, they wouldn’t be used.Unfortunately for the world, they are predicted by our Holy Scriptures to be used. That use will put an end to them and to most of humanity as well.
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undead_rat
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According to Genesis it was mankind’s unrelenting propensity towards violence that motivated YHWH to send the flood to exterminate almost all humans. He promised that He would not do that again. This time He allows mankind’s obsession with violence to run its course, and that course ends in global nuclear war.
The sins that you mention are, of course, objectionable, but they have been around from antiquity and are not listed in Genesis as the motivating factor in YHWH’s decision to destroy humanity.
The sins that you mention are, of course, objectionable, but they have been around from antiquity and are not listed in Genesis as the motivating factor in YHWH’s decision to destroy humanity.
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Dr_Meinheimer
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Define violence. I’d say abortion qualifies, and has to date killed many more people than nuclear war. I am not sure that is the best argument.
And you talk about nuclear war in the affirmative, or almost past tense, as though it is a guarantee. Nothing is a guarantee, especially after decades of detente.
And you talk about nuclear war in the affirmative, or almost past tense, as though it is a guarantee. Nothing is a guarantee, especially after decades of detente.
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Annie
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Ninevah… certain prophecies tell us the direction we are headed in; if we repent and amend our ways, the prophesy doesn’t happen.
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undead_rat
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I agree. And in this case, amending our ways means getting rid of the extremely destructive devices that are so offensive to our Creator. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but no one around here wants our country to do that.Ninevah… certain prophecies tell us the direction we are headed in; if we repent and amend our ways, the prophesy doesn’t happen.
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upant
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because we live in a fallen world.I agree. And in this case, amending our ways means getting rid of the extremely destructive devices that are so offensive to our Creator. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but no one around here wants our country to do that.
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