US Presidential Election Debate #1

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Andrew Sullivan at the “Daily Beast”, Chris Matthews on PBS, Bill Maher, who recently donated a million dollars to Barack’s campaign, Michael Moore, James Carville, why is the liberal media viciously backstabbing President Barack Obama over one (1) debate? Not only that, they are lavishing praise on Mitt Romney, as with Chris Matthews, formerly a tingly-legged supporter of Barack looking like a Mitt syncophant with, “Mr. Romney, I thought your performance last night was masterful, if not brilliant.” Maybe this isn’t a debate question, maybe this is a backstabber question. What factors predisposed gung-ho supporters to use this one (1) debate as an excuse for the “Night of the Long Knives”?

Al Gore suggests that Barack had altitude sickness, a real possibility given the tendency for Africans to have a range of anemias, with the mile-high thin oxygen in Denver possibly starving already depleted red blood cells. Are these wealthy pundits getting allergic to the idea of ponying up if the Democrats win and the Bush tax cuts are not extended? I noticed Barack supporter Barbara Streisand dropped off the Democrat radar after the “tax the rich” rhetoric got heated. After kicking Romney to the curb, why is the liberal media now throwing Barack under the bus? Jim Lehrer, the senior statesman at PBS, was excoriated for his alleged Mitt-friendly moderating. Lehrer makes a million dollar annual salary at PBS. Is Barack’s “tax the rich” policy dividing the limousine liberals? The only ones not to pile on are Oprah Winfrey and Martha Stewart–although Stewart is actually having knife problems, getting sued over her bogus cutlery…
 
Andrew Sullivan at the “Daily Beast”, Chris Matthews on PBS, Bill Maher, who recently donated a million dollars to Barack’s campaign, Michael Moore, James Carville, why is the liberal media viciously backstabbing President Barack Obama over one (1) debate? Not only that, they are lavishing praise on Mitt Romney, as with Chris Matthews, formerly a tingly-legged supporter of Barack looking like a Mitt syncophant with, “Mr. Romney, I thought your performance last night was masterful, if not brilliant.” Maybe this isn’t a debate question, maybe this is a backstabber question. What factors predisposed gung-ho supporters to use this one (1) debate as an excuse for the “Night of the Long Knives”?

Al Gore suggests that Barack had altitude sickness, a real possibility given the tendency for Africans to have a range of anemias, with the mile-high thin oxygen in Denver possibly starving already depleted red blood cells. Are these wealthy pundits getting allergic to the idea of ponying up if the Democrats win and the Bush tax cuts are not extended? I noticed Barack supporter Barbara Streisand dropped off the Democrat radar after the “tax the rich” rhetoric got heated. After kicking Romney to the curb, why is the liberal media now throwing Barack under the bus? Jim Lehrer, the senior statesman at PBS, was excoriated for his alleged Mitt-friendly moderating. Lehrer makes a million dollar annual salary at PBS. Is Barack’s “tax the rich” policy dividing the liberals?
By time the next debate rolls around, the liberal media will be fully supportive of their darling Barack Obama. He is liberal, diverse, and Democratic. The liberal mainstream media will be on board the Obama Campaign Train within days. Just watch.
 
Dear Whoopi and Company.

I know you are distressed with Big Bird being thrown out of the nest.

By my calculations Big Bird is over 18 years old.

He has received, from his adoptive parents ( US Taxpayers ), ALL the tools, in fact, more tools then the average teen, to be successful out in the free market - of real American society.

Indeed, he will not be thrown out on his ear, as he benefits handsomely now from corporate sponsorship and retail sales.

As he is geared to an age restricted clientèle ( 3-4 years of viewing ), might I suggest, if this is so distressing and the most important message you took out of the Presidential debates, you could, with your wealth, privately sponsor 10 years of reruns.

Thank you for your concerns of, what you feel, are most pressing issues debated.

I however, think Big Bird having to get a job - is not as pressing as say, Americans trying to find one.

kimmie
 
How did he contradict himself? That’s the spin Obama himself gave on it.
My impression listening to him was, “please… We know what your plan is.”

The is the first time that he has said, as far as I know, that he would not have any tax cuts which would increase deficit spending. Common sense and history show this to be an unlikely claim.his explanation of how it would work showed the claim to be disingenuous. We know from recent history that tax cuts are not offset in total revenue by increased economic activity. It’s a false premise.

His first order of business will be to cut taxes. He will claim that this will boost the economy so much that it will result in a net tax revenue increase. Then he will be unable to cut spending, as usual. And there we will be, with worse deficits than ever.

I think Mr. Romney is smart enough to know better. But he is repeating the party line which has failed with two presidents now. As they say, insanity is repeating the same thing over and over, while expecting a different result.

To my knowledge, this is the first time he has voiced the plan to keep the existing Medicare benefits in place along side a voucher system. I question his sincerity on that. I suspect he was only saying it because of the backlash from seniors and those who are not rich, yet have elderly relatives and friends.

I have only managed to get through the first hour of the debate. I had to turn it off after the first 20 minutes. Then went back to listen to as much as I could stomach.

The biggest problem for me is that NEITHER of them seem to have a clue that the world economy and labor markets have fundamentally changed due to technology. They are harping on taxation policy and entitlement programs, as if doing something in that area will make a bit of difference. It won’t. Both of their stated platforms are useless, in my opinion, to address our long term economic issues.
 
Obamacare was never about getting more affordable healthcare. It was about more government control of this sector. They knew a “one payer” system would never fly on the first pass so they are boiling frogs, trying to inch into control piece by piece.

Your question would make sense if there were actual logic to Obamacare. You can see the same plan in operation with the closure of Catholic adoption agencies because they refused to put same sex couples on the same level as married couples. You can see the same plan in operation with respect to Catholic operation of sexual slavery charities. Because the Church does not allow these women to be pushed to abortion clinics or given contraception/Plan B, sterilization the government pulled its funding. This even though by all accounts the Church’s work in this area was most effective and less expensive.

The government like most organisms wants power and influence above all. We can try to put a happy face and say they THINK they know best. Or we can look at other times in history where government took over.

Didn’t work then, won’t work now
Lisa
That is carzy…how can you possibly prove that President means something other than what he has told all Americans? You must be a Republican hack.

Oh wait…

youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE
 
Yes, of course poverty is relative. However, in the US, the cost of living is generally higher than in third-world countries, with variations between rural regions and urban centers as well as geographical locations.
In America, one of the biggest risk factors for health problems in the poor is obesity. This is a far cry from other countries where the poor are undernourished or even starving. In addition, the average household which is classified as poor in America has a color TV and almost 70% of the time they own 2, they own at least one car, and a cell phone. Again, this is a stark difference from what poor is in other countries.

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...b2575/b2575_chart2600px.ashx?w=600&h=581&as=1

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...1/07/b2575/b2575_table1.ashx?w=500&h=425&as=1

Please don’t get me wrong. We need to help those who need it. We need to see Christ in them. However, we also need to be honest. My wife is from Brasil. When people talk about the poor in the news or comments are made by political candidates, she laughs. According to her, America is the only country where the poor drive to pick up their unemployment check in their own car, and while waiting in line, check facebook on their iPhone. Having been overseas extensively myself, I am inclined to say her basic point is sound.

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...5/b2575_appendix_table1.ashx?w=500&h=784&as=1

Only 0.4% of households in America report not having enough food to eat. Obviously, we need to consider the homeless, etc. but this is not nearly the problem that some would make it out to be.

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...1/07/b2575/b2575_chart7.ashx?w=500&h=591&as=1
 
Jason, Your chart shows some of the poor owning jacuzzis. These people need further entitlements like free medical care, no tax bills, food stamps, free college educations, housing subsidies, etc.?
 
One picture = 1,000 words, no?



I bet the President really doesn’t like it when she gets angry.
 
Dear Whoopi and Company.

I know you are distressed with Big Bird being thrown out of the nest.

By my calculations Big Bird is over 18 years old.

He has received, from his adoptive parents ( US Taxpayers ), ALL the tools, in fact, more tools then the average teen, to be successful out in the free market - of real American society.

Indeed, he will not be thrown out on his ear, as he benefits handsomely now from corporate sponsorship and retail sales.

As he is geared to an age restricted clientèle ( 3-4 years of viewing ), might I suggest, if this is so distressing and the most important message you took out of the Presidential debates, you could, with your wealth, privately sponsor 10 years of reruns.

Thank you for your concerns of, what you feel, are most pressing issues debated.

I however, think Big Bird having to get a job - is not as pressing as say, Americans trying to find one.

kimmie
So why can’t Whoopi and all of other left-wingers get together and give enough to PBS to keep it going?

Why do they always, always need other people’s money?
 
So why can’t Whoopi and all of other left-wingers get together and give enough to PBS to keep it going?

Why do they always, always need other people’s money?
Luigi,

OPIUM is addictive as in OPM…other people’s money. The Left always seems to want to use this drug to keep its self feeding programs moving. So much easier to play Lord or Lady Bountiful if you don’t have to actually dig into your own pocket.

Apparently the marketing of stuff from Sesame Street which has been around how many years…40 or something like that, makes gazillions. This product/concept could easily finds sponsors. Other Leftist ideas like the funding of questionable art are similar. There is no role IMO for government in funding artists or art. Funding museums via tax deductions for charities, OK that’s fine because it’s our own money we are using. But dont’ take MY tax dollars to put a Crucifix in urine or spread dung on the Mother of God.

Maybe someone on the Left can tell me why the Federal Government should support an adult cartoon character or the P*** Christ.

I thought Romney’s standard…it better be so important we need to borrow money from China was superb. We need to apply it to the bloated pig in Washington DC

Lisa
 
I think he is probably a good father and husband, so I will not attack Obama on his personal family values. My complaints are limited to his political views. I wish the Obamas a happy anniversary with many more to come.
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In America, one of the biggest risk factors for health problems in the poor is obesity. This is a far cry from other countries where the poor are undernourished or even starving. In addition, the average household which is classified as poor in America has a color TV and almost 70% of the time they own 2, they own at least one car, and a cell phone. Again, this is a stark difference from what poor is in other countries.
Sad but true. Read The Economist and see how much of the world lives. While we clearly have poor in this country the difference between our poor and those of Subsaharan Africa or Afghanistan, Haiti or NoKo for that matter is that our poor are not victims of natural disasters (droughts, earthquakes) or tin pot dictators, but are generally there due to lifestyle choices. Sadly too these choices have become generational and ingrained. I suspect many poor in this country do not understand how their choices and their parents’ choices have put them in their situation.

Our system of simply handing the poor money obviously doesn’t work and has added to the problem by fostering this attitude of helplessness and dependence, which soon becomes entitlement. Trust me, I’ve even seen this in my own family as well as in volunteering for various social services and charities serving the poor.

But as several have pointed out, when you compare the poor in this country to those in other countries, it can be almost laughable. I had personal contact with many of our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. They told me how much of those people live, truly without sufficient food, clothing or medical care. Our charity did a Christmas box drive for kids in Afghanistan and they were thrilled with a pair of sox or a tee shirt.

What’s the answer? I think the only thing that might work is tough love so to speak but no way we have politicians brave enough to suggest such a thing.

Lias
 
By time the next debate rolls around, the liberal media will be fully supportive of their darling Barack Obama. He is liberal, diverse, and Democratic. The liberal mainstream media will be on board the Obama Campaign Train within days. Just watch.
They’ve been on that train for more than 4 years, Dave. You haven’t heard the full truth about anything in all that time on the evening news.
 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Europeans don’t vote in our election, so their opinion doesn’t mean much to me… They hated Reagan; one of our best presidents.
Not me, I liked Ronald Regan, then again I’m Irish before European, being european doesn’t mean a whole lot to me, they’re over there and I’m over here, just the way God laid it out, me happy:egyptian: with that arrangement. :shamrock2:
 
They’ve been on that train for more than 4 years, Dave. You haven’t heard the full truth about anything in all that time on the evening news.
Do ya think? 🙂 They sure were panicked after the debate. It tickled my fancy greatly!
 
You can’t blame Michelle Obama for her disappointment. As a wife, I’m certain she loves and supports her husband, so his pathetic debate performance must hurt her personally.
My big brother would like to play cards with you - If you think that is “disappointment” she’s expressing.🙂 AND who she’s directing it to.
 
My big brother would like to play cards with you - If you think that is “disappointment” she’s expressing.🙂 AND who she’s directing it to.
She’s worried she won’t be able to get anymore fancy vacations.
 
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