US Presidential Election Debate #1

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Of course Pat is warming to Romney. Despite his fallings out, Pat still follows “The Buckley rule”.

At this point, Paul is not electable for POTUS, while Romney is. His failings aside, he’s light years better than President Obama.
Popeye is light years better than Obama. Bluto is another question…
 
Pat Buchanan just wrote an excellent article on Romney’s debate performance, titled “Folks, We Have a Brand New Ballgame.” He writes, "Mitt Romney on Wednesday night turned in the finest debate performance of any candidate of either party in the 52 years since Richard Nixon faced John F. Kennedy, with the possible exception of Ronald Reagan’s demolition of Jimmy Carter in 1980. But where Reagan won with style and quips “There you go again” and his closing line, “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” Romney crushed Obama on both substance and style…

You can read the rest here: buchanan.org/blog/folks-we-have-a-brand-new-ballgame-5266

I on the fence with Romney, but Buchanan seems to be warming to him which is even more remarkable given the fact that Buchanan’s foreign policy is closer to Ron Paul’s than to Romney’s.

I don’t know though. I still need some convincing to get on board. It’s not just that Romney and Obama have the same interventionist foreign policy strategy, but I also feel that this type of strategy not only makes us less safe in the long run but actually hurts the overall economy to the benefit of a few companies in the military-industrial complex, thus cancelling out any gains made by Romney’s domestic economic policies.

And then you have Romney’s exceptions on rape and incest. I would have thought that by now Paul Ryan would have pointed out to Romney the glaring inconsistency and fallacy here. I mean, if you are pro-life and understand the “science of life” you could not possible have an exception for rape and incest where there is direct, intentional killing going on.

Like I said, I am on the fence with this election. It seems to be another Catch 22.
I understand your concerns, but consider this:

If Obama gets re-elected, freedom of religion will basically mean freedom of worship…except of course for Islam.

We will also see a massive contraction in the economy, perhaps the biggest since 1929-31 if not bigger.

Energy prices will go sky high.

Old people in inner cities will be freezing to death or dying of heat stroke.

There are already signs being posted in California gas stations saying OUT OF GAS.

Remember those days under Carter?

I also don’t see how private bond holders will keep buying or why China would lend us money. Vladmir Putin has been on their case about it for some time already.

Interest rates, which are now in the 1-3% range will rise to over 20%, the value of dollar will plummet, the money supply is already too large and has doubled maybe tripled since Pelosi got the gavel in 2006 and its value will plummet.

Americans will be glued to their TVs and radios taking a crash course in real world economics wondering how this could have happened and Barack H Obama and the Democrat party will have successfully cut down America to size to show all those successful straight white male businessmen what it’s like and they had it coming.

I suspect that those voted for Gary Johnson, Virgil Goode wrote in Ron Paul or were on the fence with Mitt will regret it to the day they die, which will probably be sooner rather later since health care rationing will go into effect.

Just remember, though, in October 2012 you stood on your principles.
 
Then big bird is beefing over nothing but a pay cut. He might have to go on one of those White House recommended school lunch diets.
She says “let them eat snacks”.,

For many kids, the school lunch IS their main meal of the day - If they can’t afford regular meal…how do you buy snacks?:(:(😦
 
She says “let them eat snacks”.,

For many kids the school lunch IS their main meal of the day If they can’t afford regular meal…how do you buy snacks?:(:(😦
She’s rich. She went to Haaaavaaaaad. Nobody I know could afford to go to Harvard. Most people around here scrounge for student loans to go to community colleges. So what does she know about “poor?” Same thing for Barack. He’s never been poor a day in his life.

The biggest joke in this election is Obama calling Romney rich. They’re both loaded because everybody in politics at that level is loaded. Obama’s net worth, the last time I read, was $16 million dollars and increasing fast. Please, spare me the irony of that.
 
She’s rich. She went to Haaaavaaaaad. Nobody I know could afford to go to Harvard. Most people around here scrounge for student loans to go to community colleges. So what does she know about “poor?” Same thing for Barack. He’s never been poor a day in his life.
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BUT but but…they have no problem telling the poor how they should live:mad:
 
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It’s a “debate” because it’s “unscripted” responses - Obama folks
Well, Bill Maher did say he needed his teleprompter. Today, Joe Scarborough questioned Obama’s “depth of understanding” of the political issues discussed at the debate. Wow.
 
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It’s a “debate” because it’s “unscripted” responses - Obama folks
ROFLOL. These must be the same people who simultaneously think Michelle Obama is poor and think that Obama is going to personally pay their rent at the end of the month.

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Al Gore said that Pres. Obama did bad because of the altitude! Denver is upper ground!!!:rolleyes:
 
We have limited use for manual labor, limited use for low-level skills, a finite use for restaurant and hospitality workers. Most importantly, the workers who will be phased out the fastest in the 21st century are those workers who continue a family tradition of insufficient education. That fact is not obvious to most immigrants from Latin America; it simply is not.

So, as a country, we need to Man Up and Woman Up. Democrats, if you’re going to continue to enable illegal immigration by providing absorption programs, amnesty programs, and traditional assistance programs, you are killing the economy, not to mention jeopardizing the futures of those immigrants, by not also demanding Tough Education into the reality of modern America. “DREAM” Acts only go so far, because they do not address a majority of illegal immigrants.

Republicans, you need to show how things can be different than a cycle of welfare by being aggressive: alliances with high schools and businesses, which mirror the Co-op College model (combining academic education simultaneously with technical education + job training) is the most concrete way to show the younger generation that the only way to surpass their parents’ poverty, and to keep from reproducing it, is to become prepared. Representatives from businesses need to go into the schools on a regular, programmed basis, within the mandated curriculum, to show students that only the candidates who can write a resume will even be considered. I’m hoping that the next charter school efforts are those which fall in the definition of Co-op Charter Schools, combining the rigorous requirements which many charter schools already have, with mandatory experience (internships and paid) with employers. That’s my own version of Tough Love. We need the economic equivalent of a Scared Straight movie which accurately predicts the result of a personal economic future without the tools for individual prosperity. I think anything less is highly irresponsible and the opposite of charity.

(end of rant, Lisa. ;))
In full screaming agreement with you. But again how to implement this? A couple of thoughts, one is that the elite in Washington have to get off the objective of “making college affordable” as a major goal. Much as I laud education, as Bill O"Reilly commented these people need to quit chasing leprechauns. College is not needed for many many well paying, steady jobs. Further does it occur to anyone that it is patently unfair (fair share being Barack’s favorite class warfare mantra) to divert tax money to a small, select and frankly not always deserving segment of students to pursue what might be a totally unmarketable degree? Is the same support available for technical jobs or skilled trades? I don’t think so, or if it is BHO wants to keep it a deep dark secret.

Step one is to make high school mean something, with opportunities to not only focus on a college track but also a skilled trade. My ex husband attended a “Polytechnical” high school in the 1970s. Although he was on a college track and the academic program was also outstanding, the school offered several years of training in carpentry, electrician, plumbing, home building, automotive and at the time “electronics” building and repair. Of course in those days it was TV sets and 8 track tapes 😃 but of course this school has moved forward with the computer and other similar technology. A degree from this high school is well respected in this community and young people not going to college can easily enter apprentice programs or other skilled trades programs if not enter into the workforce with, what a novel idea, a MARKETABLE skill!

Why aren’t these kind of schools all over the country? Why isn’t there CHOICE in education? This is one of my favorite crusades because as you said, education in actual life skills IS a matter of life and death and becoming more and more important. But what is the concern of schools today? Making sure there is “diversity” and we learn which homosexual was leading an army into battle or which transgendered person explored the Amazon.

There is, in my opinion no possible reason not to have the dollars follow the child into whatever school for which he/she is most suited. Does anyone not pandering to teacher’s unions have an idea why this is so hard fought?

I get a lot of info from former education secretary Bill Bennett. His radio show often features experts in education from all areas. One of the most impressive was an interview with a Catholic priest who was operating a school for low income students. They have a co op with local businesses to give the students actual work experience, one day a week at area businesses. Unfortunately I don’t recall this particular school but found one with the same program:

sjdchs.org/index.cfm?load=page&page=7

FWIW the wages earned by these students is used to help the school offset the expenses not paid via tuition (parents cannot afford the actual amount) and according to the priest the students LOVE the program, are delighted to have the chance to help pay for their own education.

This is, IMO, what we need. Thus one of the best lines Romney spoke during the debate was support of school choice.

In contrast, with the stranglehold the teachers’ unions have on the Democrat party, one of Obama’s first acts was to dismantle a program in Washington DC that allowed poor children to escape the horrible public schools. Is the irony of this lost on ya’ll? HE can afford Sidwell Friends for HIS precious girls. But for the rest of you great unwashed…

Lisa
 
Al Gore said that Pres. Obama did bad because of the altitude! Denver is upper ground!!!:rolleyes:
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What happens if Obama gets the “3AM call” and he happens to be in Denver, or in an airplane (which is higher, duh) or someplace else that doesn’t agree with his delicate constitution?
 
Please give Obama his teleprompter, that way Mitt can say “Hey don’t vote for Obama if you agree with him, vote for the teleprompter” :p:D
 
Please give Obama his teleprompter, that way Mitt can say “Hey don’t vote for Obama if you agree with him, vote for the teleprompter” :p:D
Really? I kind of like to watch him squirm. He has this set of “poker tells” when he gets into trouble or he’s about ready to let a whopper fly, ever notice?
 
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