Below is contact info from the Arlington Diocese website. I think I’ll leave a message.Arlington diocesan spokeswoman Joelle Santolla said parishes skipping the CCHD collection would be “followed up” for future collections.
emailed tonightJoelle Santolla, Director of Communications
Tel: 703-841-2517
Reporters on deadline may contact:
571-215-8731
E-mail address: j.santolla@arlingtondiocese.org
Hello Joelle,
I was reading the Washington Times and noticed the following quote:
“Arlington diocesan spokeswoman Joelle Santolla said parishes skipping the CCHD collection would be “followed up” for future collections.”
When you follow up with the parishes, will you please congratulate the pastors and deacons involved? Their courage and good discernment is inspiring.
It is so good to see these men taking a stand against sin and scandal. Please convey my greetings and this message to your bishop.
In Christ,
George --------
You’re welcome, but must admit it wasn’t much of a “find.” I was there when the statements were made at St. Mary’s and when I saw the headline on the frontpage of the paper the other day, knew what was coming . . .Thank You, for posting that Washington Times article. A great find.
That is the problem. Many of these bishops have had sex scandals in their dioceses. Any bishop who was not able to attend to his sheep and see such a thing should have resigned and gone to a monastery. In corporate America executives in place when such a scandal took place would have been gone in a NY minute.I tore up the envelope for the CHD collection. How can I trust the Bishops after this?
You have to remember Rome moves at a snail’s pace, but the current pope, in spite of his age, seems to be more of a mover and shaker. It will be interesting to see how down the collection will be this year due to the many controversies. I’m sure the explanation will be less than honest. The economy will probably be blamed. I hope I’'m wrong.That is the problem. Many of these bishops have had sex scandals in their dioceses. Any bishop who was not able to attend to his sheep and see such a thing should have resigned and gone to a monastery. In corporate America executives in place when such a scandal took place would have been gone in a NY minute.
Shouldn’t bishops be held to a higher standard? Guess not. That Rome did not demand resignations is the biggest scandal of all IMO. The fallout just continues. I doubt any ecclesial heads will role because of this. You’ll get double speak as came from supposedly orthodox Russel Shaw on The World Over last Friday.
We have no idea just what those organizations do with that money. And I don’t have time or effort to research each one and ask them for an accounting. Just posting “education” or “housing” or “economic justice” doesn’t satisfy me. IMO there’s not enough accountability, and there is quite a bit of scandal and negativity surrounding this fund. Not worthy of my support.Anyone can go to CHD’s homepage and see what grants it made in 2007. The 2008 info is not up yet, but 2008 is also not over.
usccb.org/cchd/grant.shtml#recently
CHD does a lot of good work. Lot most large organizations, there will be some mistakes and there will be some projects you are not personally happy with. But it is a good organization and worthy of support.
Sorry - for the very few good ones on the list, it does not justify taking the risk that my donation may be used to help the poor get abortions, or aid in spreading marxist ideology!Anyone can go to CHD’s homepage and see what grants it made in 2007. The 2008 info is not up yet, but 2008 is also not over.
usccb.org/cchd/grant.shtml#recently
CHD does a lot of good work. Lot most large organizations, there will be some mistakes and there will be some projects you are not personally happy with. But it is a good organization and worthy of support.
Don’t be too hard on them - as Jesus would say, “Father, forgive them FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.”I did not give to the campaign. No way. In fact, now i will discern everything much more closely. I noticed that words are thrown around so seemingly benignly that one doesn’t question anything anymore. Like “community organizer.” Sounds innocent, but this nomenclature was designed and used by Saul Alinsky the socialist thinking educator. This stuff is dangerous and we lack proper education in it. The priest last Sunday asked if we wanted to contribute we still could if we missed the Sunday before. I know this priest. He doesn’t want to make waves. Good Grief! I’m losing my respect for priests now. They are so subservient that they show no backbone about anything. I SEE FEAR IN OUR PRIESTS. And their sermons stink as a result. And they’ve been stinking for a while. Who can stomach this sort of thing anymore?:twocents:
I’m currently re-reading “Screwtape Letters” by C.S. Lewis and our parish is invited to read and discuss in adult forum. The father of lies is making many in roads due to the complacency of clergy and laity. A mediocre religion is worthless. NOW is the time to stand up and hold those accountable for their heresies. We have become lazy and want everyone to like us at the expense of our souls. Yes, the younger clergy seem to be more orthodox but we can’t rest on our laurels. Speak up and don’t worry about being popular.Don’t be too hard on them - as Jesus would say, “Father, forgive them FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.”
Many middle aged priests have actually been poorly educated and we are seeing more and more foreign ones in our area as well. It should not make a difference if they received their Ordination in Africa or Nome, Alaska, but it does! We just left a parish because the priest was virtually uneducated as to the laws of the church and was permitting many things that by all rights would constitute a scandal. Add that to a very liberal diocese where things are blindly overlooked and add that to the fact that our clerics are suffering from secularism and relativism and every other “ism” you can think of - stir it with a LOSS OF FAITH and voila - it is a potent brew.
It is up to the laity to pray for these poor souls and to keep our ears and eyes open to the Voice of the True Shepherd only. If we pray for our own purification and keep studying our faith, we cannot go astray despite the terrible things we are seeing. Remember that all that is happening in the Church today was prophesied by many of the saints long ago. Perhaps we can alleviate the tribulation that is due to come for our unfaithfulness by our continued prayers for those who don’t seem to embrace the Truth!
And many of the young ones now coming from the good seminaries have true vocations and are obedient to Rome.
Oh, how I wish we had something like that in our parish! Something you could really get your teeth into.I’m currently re-reading “Screwtape Letters” by C.S. Lewis and our parish is invited to read and discuss in adult forum. The father of lies is making many in roads due to the complacency of clergy and laity. A mediocre religion is worthless. NOW is the time to stand up and hold those accountable for their heresies. We have become lazy and want everyone to like us at the expense of our souls. Yes, the younger clergy seem to be more orthodox but we can’t rest on our laurels. Speak up and don’t worry about being popular.
Tigg–Oh, how I wish we had something like that in our parish! Something you could really get your teeth into.
But how does one stand up to the USCCB? Because if they do not defend the true faith, how can we expect more than a mediocre church community? I e-mailed four different bishops regarding the CHD (bishops known to be defenders of the faith) and only one responded reiterating the fact that they were no longer supporting ACORN. A very weak defense! I wrote two different letters to the USCCB regarding their support of organizations known to have agendas contrary to the Church mission. Absolute silence! We know from experience it is rather futile to contact our own bishop about anything. He is very liberal and waiting for his replacement due to retirement.
Yet despite it all, we need to show respect for the very essence of the priesthood by virtue of the power that they hold by Holy Orders. There is a legend about St. Francis (I think that is the correct saint) that if he met an angel and a priest, he would bow before the priest.
So you see, it is not an easy situation to confront and challenge, yet hold respect. Whatever would St. Catherine do?
I think it is all a sign of the times and the general malaise that is affecting the clergy is affecting all mankind. These are times of darkness and perversion and only the pure of heart can see it!
Those with more are expected to do more and be more responsible.That is the problem. Many of these bishops have had sex scandals in their dioceses. Any bishop who was not able to attend to his sheep and see such a thing should have resigned and gone to a monastery. In corporate America executives in place when such a scandal took place would have been gone in a NY minute.
Shouldn’t bishops be held to a higher standard? Guess not. That Rome did not demand resignations is the biggest scandal of all IMO. The fallout just continues. I doubt any ecclesial heads will role because of this. You’ll get double speak as came from supposedly orthodox Russel Shaw on The World Over last Friday.
Raymond Aroyo has been critical of USCCB for a long time. He devoted most of his show "The WorldOver, which aired here (Iowa) on 11/21, to the latest gathering of this group. I believe you can purchase copies of the shows on EWTN. If I remember correctly, there was a bishop doing all kinds of side dances trying to explain how they no longer contribute to ACORN and even when they did, they were confident the money was being spent properly. Like others have said, ACORN is just the tip of the iceberg. They have a lot more explaining to do.What kind of stir did Raymond Aroyo make? Just curious. Don’t know where to go to read about it. Help.
Here is the other thread…lots of good links and comments are included…SPREAD THE WORD!What kind of stir did Raymond Aroyo make? Just curious. Don’t know where to go to read about it. Help.