Utah, USA: Uproar and apologies when public school teacher forced Catholic student to wipe Ash Wednesday cross off his forehead

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I’ll stick with warped…for the reasons you already said…
 
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I’m having a great day! Thanks for asking. And I’ve got two kids at home right now not being bullied around by the state prison workers!

Life is good …
 
Why would they be bullied by state prison workers? Do you think if they weren’t at home they’d be doing something causing them to be picked up by law enforcement?..🤷‍♂️
 
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I am glad you are doing fine.
I had a bad day yesterday, that is why I asked. This is paradise but there was a storm , light went off for over 16 hours , only to come back today and the road was too muddy to leave. No signal. I could call my husband for an SOS and he had to hear my ranting poor soul . I love him so…So yes, it felt like a cage.
But that would be off topic.
Have a great day and week ! ( with the good and the bad… it is life!)
 
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TC3033 said:
Why would they be bullied by state prison workers?
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Just like the OP illustrated. A kid was bullied by his teacher to take the cross off of his forehead.

Don’t pretend that bullying by the state prison workers doesn’t exist.
 
Kind of like when you have a job working for someone other than yourself and you have to obey the company rules and do the work and complete competencies (e.g., hospital workers) and you can’t just walk out the door anytime you want and you have to leave your family/children for several hours a day and you have to work in a cubicle or at a desk and you will probably (hopefully) work at that company for 30 + years and you have to obey your supervisor or boss or team leader and you have to be around other people even if they are not your idea of “quality” people and they don’t share your religion and you have to study work procedures that you really don’t enjoy and at times you will be confused because you aren’t naturally talented in certain areas (e.g., computer savvy) and so you have to humiliate yourself by asking for help…

Honestly, I am not a big fan of public schools. In our city, only 13"% of public school students achieve the MINIMUM math competency scores on standardized tests, and only 17% achieve the MINIMUM reading competency scores on standardized tests. I realize that these students come from appalling family situations, but surely the teachers KNOW this when they take the job of “teacher,” don’t they? Surely they don’t expect a whole classroom of Laura Ingalls Wilders, do they?

And as far as I’m concerned, teachers who strike have lost the right to teach. I work in a hospital, and things are sometimes not so good–but we don’t strike. We bargain and keep on working. Let them wear a protest armband on the job rather than hold the taxpayers hostage.

Finally, I hate the liberalism that pervades the schools and forbids singing Christmas carols and saying the word, “Easter.”

BUT…I have no problem with teachers, public or private or homeschool, making kids work hard and do things that they really don’t want to do like obey rules and take tests and study boring subjects because THAT"S real life as a grown up!
 
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That article was so dramatic.

The teacher apologised, wrote a note to the student and gave him a small gift.
Both the principal and teacher rang his main caregiver to apologise.

My guess is the teacher had NO IDEA about what ash Wednesday was and assumed the kid was being silly. Kids do silly things all the time.

Of course in hindsight she would realise it shouldn’t have happened that way. But not exactly a new worthy story.
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Seems it would make a better story on how they resolved the misunderstanding, without a lawsuit.

Heartfelt apologies by the principle and teacher is sufficient to put the issue to bed.
 
Lemuel said:
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TC3033:
Why would they be bullied by state prison workers?
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Just like the OP illustrated. A kid was bullied by his teacher to take the cross off of his forehead.

Don’t pretend that bullying by the state prison workers doesn’t exist.
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Are we talking about a stupid mistake by a school teacher or the prison system. You keep going back and forth and it’s getting confusing.

Ya, some teacher make dumb mistakes…I personally didn’t have any issues with bullying from teachers growing up, I never bullied anyone when I worked in schools and I’m pretty sure my wife doesn’t bully kids. The teacher in the story admitted making a stupid mistake, apologizing to the family and sounds like it’s water under the bridge now.

I find it pretty “tin foil hat” to continue comparing schools and educators to the US prison system though.
 
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Why should I have to? Why not just say “no thanks”?

With home school all of that nonsense is a non issue.
 
Lemuel said:
Kids are forced to be separated from loving families and put under the control of “teachers” who only do it for money.
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I’d like to respond to all your points, but it’s really not worth my time. So I’ll just respond to this one.

As someone who has family and friends who are teachers, both in public and private schools, I can say that this is absolutely not true. Every teacher that I know does it out of love, not for money. If they didn’t have a love for it, most of them would probably go crazy within a week. And, teachers are by far the most underpaid professionals, so they’re not exactly making the big bucks anyway.
 
Yeah? How many of these “underpaid” prison workers would do it for free?
 
A ridiculous question. Everyone has bills to pay basic living necessities to provide for themselves and their families. Would you ask a doctor or lawyer or police officer to work for free?
 
There’s no excuse. We live in an age where a google search would tell the educator everything she would need to know about Ash Wednesday and Lent. She can’t claim ignorance.
That said, I sincerely hope she doesn’t lose her job over this. It was a bad mistake but punishment would not be charitable at all.
 
Lemuel said:
Yeah? How many of these “underpaid” prison workers would do it for free?
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Seriously? Are you actually implying that it is impossible to be dedicated and love your work unless you are willing to impoverish yourself to do it?

Do you have any idea how much time and effort the average public school teacher puts in on a daily basis, and how much grief they get from ignorant and self-important parents who have absolutely no clue about what it actually takes to do the job?

They earn every penny they make and more.
 
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