Vatican blocks Caroline Kennedy appointment as US ambassador

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I support life.Obama supports the culture of death,i.e. abortion.Who REALLY is the hater?
 
TracyJ said:
Do you think it would be better if he got rid of the medal? And do you think that she won’t
protect him?
Abortion is ONE issue, there are many issues
Social justice being one of them.HOWEVER:
If you feel that this is a ministry that you are called to I don’t think it serves your ministry to insult our president.
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Abortion is THE issue.The deliberate state sanctioned murder of pre-born children to solve personal problems supercedes ALL else.All other issues become supremely irrelevant once this "choice"is supported.One effectively disqualifies oneself from further consideration.It is akin to saying other than the slaughter of 6 million Jews and other innocents Naziism wasn’t all bad.I can’t believe that you have the guff to label others who defend life as haters.You should be ashamed of yourself.

PLEASE look up Isaiah 5.
 
TracyJ said:
I heard Pat Buchanan say that in the fifties 75 percent of Catholics attended Mass,
but now that’s down to 25 percent. I attribute that to the lack of charity that some
Catholics have no shame in displaying.

. The best thing about the Catholic Church is that it embraces ALL people.
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I am confused by your comments. It is a shame that the level is at 25% but to say it is because someone was not charitable leads me to wonder if they had faith because your faith should not be based on someone being charitable. Staying in the church sould not be effected by that don’t you think?
 
TracyJ said:
I don’t think that Caroline is especially suited to being an Ambassador to the Vatican, but Kerry Kennedy might be. And the fact is that Mrs Shriver is one of the most tireless Catholics that I have ever experienced.
Judging an entire family on the few who are celebrities isn’t fair in my opinion.

Although it’s interesting to think of who a good ambassador would be for the Vatican, since
it’s not really a place that’s known for being at odds with America I can’t see the need of an Ambassador there anyway.

Caroline would do well as an Ambassador to Ireland.
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Sorry Tracy; both Kerry Kennedy and Maria Shriver are well-known as pro-choice; and that’s unacceptable as an ambassador to the Vatican. I’m not quite sure what a “tireless” Catholic is, but Maria Shriver is widely quoted as saying she is indeed a “cafeteria Catholic” - and I believe the ambassador should be anything but that. Let’s put the Kennedys aside as possibilities - they have done absolutely nothing to merit consideration. There are plenty of Catholics who are faithful to the Church’s teachings who would be fine ambassadors.
 
TracyJ, I don’t believe that anyone on this thread, or the other thread about the White House forcing Georgetown University to cover up the name of Jesus before Obama would speak there, is joking.😦

And I am not so sure that calling Obama the new anti-Christ is far from the mark.

He really does believe himself to have been elevated to the position as the leader of the whole world and he is not going to let even Jesus usurp that spot.:mad:

Another thing Tracy, why in the world do you believe Caroline Kennedy to be appropriate as the Ambassador to Ireland. Why would we foist a pro-abortion catholic on Ireland. They have enough trouble with the secular element in that country. If she must be given an ambassadorship send her to a protestant country or Iraq or India or China.

:knight1:
 
I’m confused. There are some people on here who claim to be Catholic but voted for Obama. From what I’ve seen and read he seems to be so anti-Catholic it’s not funny. How can anyone be Catholic and pro-choice? The Church teaches that abortion is wrong, Obama is for abortion, so Obama must also be wrong. God help this country if we can’t find anyone to lead us who values life.
 
I have never understood that acceptability of a diplomat depended on the diplomat having the same religious values as the state to which he or she was being sent. The Kennedy family has a tremendous amount of influence with the Church in Massachusetts. Somehow I doubt if Caroline would be so quickly turned away.
 
OriginalJS said:
I have never understood that acceptability of a diplomat depended on the diplomat having the same religious values as the state to which he or she was being sent. The Kennedy family has a tremendous amount of influence with the Church in Massachusetts. Somehow I doubt if Caroline would be so quickly turned away.
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ahh yes , The church of Massachusetts…now that explains it…they formed their on version of church. :hypno:
 
pigtown, you are correct.

One cannot be a Catholic if one voted for the abortionist. You may call yourself Catholic but it would need to be a lower case c - a pick and choose catholic. And Mr. Biden’s photo ops with ashes on the forehead do not fit the bill.

If one is nominated to be Ambassador to England, I would think it would be a help if that person spoke English - likewise to Spain, knowledge of the Spanish language would be useful. In fact, I’ll bet if an Ambassador were sent to a country and they did not understand the language of that country it would be considered an insult.😦

Likewise the appointment of an Ambassador to the Holy See. How could anyone be a representative to the Vatican when they are at odds with Catholic beliefs - even if they do call themselves catholic.🤷

And I wonder. Do the Kennedys really have all that much influence and power in Massachusetts. After all the years of embarrassment from Ted Kennedy, I would think they would have had enough. :amen:
 
TracyJ said:
Do you think it would be better if he got rid of the medal? And do you think that she won’t
protect him?
Abortion is ONE issue, there are many issues
Social justice being one of them.HOWEVER:
If you feel that this is a ministry that you are called to I don’t think it serves your ministry to insult our president.
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You mean the way some here have been SO respectful of Bush?

I feel fine insulting the current president’s ideas of socialism and abortion on demand.
 
He may not be THE anti-Christ but he certainly is AN anti-Christ.His actions to date have been the antithesis to Christ.This man is attempting to radically and fundamentally change the nature and values of the American nation.All those Catholic and non-Catholic idiots who voted for this Trojan Horse of the Culture of Death will ultimately rue their vote.

For the sake of that nation and my American cousins I pray that he is a one term wonder.The Republicans had BETTER get it in gear.
 
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