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Yes, Hamba…you look at the West as Christian. Our societies are based on freedom and people are not being forced to become Christian, and they are not killed if they desire to leave Christianity.

What you are witnessing is secular finance culture that has nothing to do with Christianity. There are financial laws that are in place that attempt to create and maintain fair commerce practices.
 
The other issue that hasn’t come up…I came across an article the other day clearing out old emails.

One is from a retired military captain that was dated in 2005 – from a military standpoint.

It regarded the problem of China manipulating its currency, it coming to light to the military and that it would lead to economic destruction. An associate of mine in the finance industry, however, told me that China likewise is about to implode.

I went to do a search this am for the particular article and will go back to find it…but this am, an article came up from this past year stating it was America’s fault for allowing China to violate international law, and not protecting our own economy from such strategic activities as China’s.

China has found ways to spy and steal on American companies’ marketing ideas. We are selling used steel to China that is in turn being used for military production. Most hackers attacking our computer systems is coming from China…

talking of peace but preparing for war, and in reference to the article shared by the military captain, China is already at economic war with us.

I will do some more searches to locate the 2005 article…
 
Yet, when we try to boost our savings rate, somehow “hoarding” gets dragged into the argument (as in the document under discussion).
That’s the demand-side analysis - boosting demand (spending more/saving less) causes economic growth. That becomes problematic when spending exceeds saving. Ultimately, some curtailing of spending is necessary, preferably not during a downturn.

Interesting to note that Keynesian macro theory - which is the rationale for most fiscal stimulus - holds that savings rate will adjust to equilibriate the market for loanable funds, such that household increases in wealth in the long run come from higher savings due solely to an increase in household income. Keynesian theory posits that the long-run savings rate is stable, so Keynesian theory cannot easily be applied to our situation (in which household income has decreased).

I think it’s only hoarding if you’re wealthy. For the rest of us shlubs it’s known as “defensive savings” because we might lose our jobs next month.
 
Sufjon:

Your posts are always a good read. I can never anticipate the directions you will take on a topic, but I have to say, you totally lost me here.

You are seeing a causal relationship between climate and unionization? And what is “not your thing”? The cold climate? (I totally agree with that, BTW) Where are you located?

Regards,

JHow
Hi JHow - it’s good to hear from you again. I based that on the fact that unionization in the US is concentrated most heavily in northern, industrial states. For instance, unionization is greatest in New York, Michigan, Alaska, New Jersey, and Washington, while unionization is lowest in North Carolina, South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi, Arizona, and South Dakota. - Union Membership Trends in the United States, Cornell University, 2004, Gerald Mayer Economic Analyst Domestic Social Policy Division.

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Sufjon
 
…I based that on the fact that unionization in the US is concentrated most heavily in northern, industrial states…
Ah, I understand you now. You are correct on geography of unionization in US, but it’s probably not really related to the climate but culture and history.
 
I think that Christians are missing the big picture here:

If one of your brethren becomes poor, and falls into poverty among you, then you shall help him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you. Take no usury or interest from him; but fear your God, that your brother may live with you. You shall not lend him your money for usury, nor lend him your food at a profit.(Leviticus 25:35-37)

And so, with regard to the literally millions of people worldwide who have lost their jobs due to the current financial crisis and subsequently have not only lost their ability to pay their various loans but have become so poor that they cannot afford to feed their families without welfare, what then would be the “Christian” thing to do to help them?

Why is the Church not demanding or at least requesting that the “too big to fail” banks do the “Christian” thing and forgo the interest payments on all loans?

Incidentally, the things which have created such devastation and havoc in the financial markets like ‘compound-interest’, ‘mortgage-baked securities’, ‘credit default swaps’ etc. are all considered forms and instruments of usury and so I really do not understand why anyone from the 99% of the population should be saying anything good about usury (which the 1% loves so much that they are totally unwilling to even consider forgiving the interest payments supposedly due to them from the other 99%).

Again I ask, what would be the “Christian” thing to do with regard to usury in order to help untold millions of people who have become poor as a result of the world’s financial crisis?.. And perhaps this answer can be relayed to the Pope and others in the Vatican.
Here are great reads about Usury from the Catholic prespective: frcoulter.com/presentations/usury/index.html & scripturecatholic.com/usury.html & newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm

Our position on Usury is clear as day, as you may go read Papal documents on the matter and those wonderful articles. Your concerns are well noted but the Church is handling much more important matters at the moment that deserve the full attention of the Magesterium concerning correct interpretation of Vatican II, reconciling fractured groups, getting people back to Mass, restoring the respect to the Sacraments and to the Mass lost in a lot of parishes, dealing with heretics, and proper education of new priests. Other words, trying to steer the world away from Usury is on the backburner at the moment but will come front and center in the future.

Concerning the topic of this thread, here’s Michael Voris on the issue.

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DBwRMFzexh0

You may now stop the fear mongering and return your hearbeats back to normal :rolleyes:
 
Ah, I understand you now. You are correct on geography of unionization in US, but it’s probably not really related to the climate but culture and history.
Oh yeah - you’re right. I was just saying that unions tend to be up north and I live in the south, because I don’t like cold weather. If I were an advanced practitioner of my faith, I could probably sit outside in the cold with no shirt on, but I am not on that level. 🙂

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Sufjon
 
Not Chick tracts per se, but my wife and I did find an anti-Catholic tract in a Methodist church at the very top of the most northerly island of the British Isles.
Interesting. Did you visit Britain’s most Northerly brewery too whlie you were there? Would be a pity to go that far and not see it too. 🤷
 
Not Chick tracts per se, but my wife and I did find an anti-Catholic tract in a Methodist church at the very top of the most northerly island of the British Isles.
Never will I forget when I read in the local paper that Ian Paisley was going to preach at a local Fundamental Methodist church. I couldn’t believe it, so I called them and asked if it was THE Ian Paisley, and they said, yes, it was.

I just couldn’t resist going to lay eyes on the man, so I went there, and sure enough, there he was. Mr. Orange Order himself. But what was interesting was that he started off preaching and, except for the accent, you would have thought the congregation had just gotten off the boat from Northern Ireland themselves. In no way was he different in the way he preached, and their reactions were the same as to their own preachers. Of course, the locals are pretty much Scots-Irish, so i guess I shouldn’t have been too surprised. But a 300 year separation and they’re still on the same wavelength? Wow!

Except, of course, that to the extent the locals still harbor anti-Catholicism, it’s pretty subdued. years ago, though, the KKK was big here. Orange Order/KKK. Mox nix in my book.

Oh yes, the topic! Uh, well, I very much doubt Ian Paisley would support anything any Cardinal said about anything at all.
 
First, you are to be congratulated for creating a business without having to borrow money. Few can do that.
Nah - I just like to start small and build.
Congratulations also for thinking of the soda bottle lighting thing. I’m sure it saves you money, and you have found a way to prevent their leaking, expanding, contracting or oxidizing. But you can’t melt aluminum that way, or extrude it to make windows or operate presses. You can’t process poultry, make alloys or shape steel or even haul, cut and plane timber, or ship to Canada or Mexico or China without using a good deal of energy.
The bottles have been holding up pretty well, but it would be somewhat easy to replace them.
I’m not sure the people I know are all that unimaginative. I know some who have developed entirely new processes for doing some remarkable things. Most people who can make a competitive product are not stupid people, nor do you have any particular reason to assume you are smarter than they are.
I don’t think I’m smarter. I just don’t blame my problems on the president or things outside of my control. Most everything is outside my control, like waves in the ocean. I don’t curse them - I ride them.
No, I’m not in a state where it’s cold 8 months of the year. More like one where it’s warm for about 8 months of the year. And that relates to unions how?
Unions are more prevalent in northern industrial states. Many states down south are right to work states. It is generally colder up north, hence the reference to climate.
If you have gotten the impression that farmers are the victims of Monsanto or Cargill, you don’t know very many successful farmers.
I could probably find more farmers who share my view than I could find farmers who have the view that they have benefited from the industrialization of our food supply. Aside from that, we have hardly any varieties of vegetables left. There were 30 varieties of tomato in 1975. Now there are three or four, and they are genetically engineered. Such is the case with much of our food supply. The out of control increases in weight of the average American corresponds directly to the advent of corn being subsidized and becoming the main staple in most everything people eat, right down to the animal carcasses they eat. You are what you eat, and people eat livestock fed entirely on corn. Most everything is sweetened with corn, and all of this leads to a fat population. Corn is one of the least healthy crops one can eat, and thanks to the industrialized food industry, that is mostly what people eat.

I
'm talking about real farmers.
I am greatly relieved to learn that the farmers in my state who are barely getting by are not real. One less thing to worry about.
I recognize that you are justly proud of the fact that you don’t borrow money.
Not proud. Came from a very poor family and watched our oven and refrigerator get repossessed while my mother stood there crying when I was 4. From this I learned to rely only on myself.
But if you are a small manufactory or a farmer, it’s extraordinarily difficult to expand without doing it. Borrowing for business purposes is an integral part of economies, and has been since before the memory of man runs.
Agreed.
Study it, you’ll see. That’s actually part of the skill; knowing when you can borrow and make the process pay for the borrowing. When your government promises to increase your costs arbitrarily and unpredictably, having nothing to do with the nature of the process itself, you don’t want to borrow because you can’t pencil out how to make the enterprise work. Additional taxes on such people come directly from their ability to repay principal obligations.
Government doesn’t make such decisions arbitrarily. Government is clicks to the heels of lobbyists, and the strongest lobbyists belong to large corporations. Those decisions always benefit large corporations and hurt the small guy.Everything is determined by corporate interests. Political decisions, what products alpha consumers want, mindsets on aging and beauty - all of these are decided by commercials, and commercials are driven by large interests. This is capitalism at it’s worst, and many catholic bishops have rightly labelled it an evil. The way I see it, there has to be a mix.
If you feel it’s the moral thing to do to pay more of your income to the government, then by all means do it. But it’s wrong to decree that everyone else can do it just because you feel yourself able to do it, because you can’t possibly know the circumstances of those others. And it’s just as wrong to condemn them as greedy for the sole reason that they are not just like you.
I believe that we should pay taxes for the common good. The aging roads, bridges, sewers, and other infrastructure that we depend on were built by government, Government is not bad. It is what advanced civilization. If you look at the state of the world without strong central governments during the dark ages, the proto-renaissance, and somewhat into the mid-renaissance, you see vile and cruel conditions that make modern society look like paradise.
And what in the world makes you think nobody but you has happy employees?
I only said mine were happy. I didn’t say that no one else’s were.
And you say you net more than $200,000/year. That’s good. Does everyone in your employ make $200,000/year?
Quite a few do. Some of them make more than me. It depends on their field, the fair market value for what they do, their contribution to the business and so forth. But a pay raise only makes an employee happy for an average of two weeks. Dignity, respect and genuine concern for their well being goes much further. Celebrating their accomplishments is helpful too.

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Sufjon
 
Nah - I just like to start small and build. Best of luck, sincerely.

The bottles have been holding up pretty well, but it would be somewhat easy to replace them. Same

I don’t think I’m smarter. I just don’t blame my problems on the president or things outside of my control. Most everything is outside my control, like waves in the ocean. I don’t curse them - I ride them.At some point we have to admit that politicians do make differences, and we need to oppose those who make negative differences. There is only so much “riding the waves” an economy can do, and right now, it’s not doing it very well.

Unions are more prevalent in northern industrial states. Many states down south are right to work states. It is generally colder up north, hence the reference to climate. I see. It can also vary within states, as is the case in my own.

I could probably find more farmers who share my view than I could find farmers who have the view that they have benefited from the industrialization of our food supply. Aside from that, we have hardly any varieties of vegetables left. There were 30 varieties of tomato in 1975. Now there are three or four, and they are genetically engineered. Such is the case with much of our food supply. The out of control increases in weight of the average American corresponds directly to the advent of corn being subsidized and becoming the main staple in most everything people eat, right down to the animal carcasses they eat. You are what you eat, and people eat livestock fed entirely on corn. Most everything is sweetened with corn, and all of this leads to a fat population. Corn is one of the least healthy crops one can eat, and thanks to the industrialized food industry, that is mostly what people eat.

I am greatly relieved to learn that the farmers in my state who are barely getting by are not real. One less thing to worry about.

Sufjon
I don’t know what state you’re in, but the farmers I know made money last year. Some made a lot of money. This year, many did not, because of the drought. Prices were very high, so some did. Those in the northern part of this state, which was not drought-stricken, certainly did. And the ones who did well are the ones who keep up on superior products and methods. Ranchers definitely made money even though there was a drought. At $1.35/lb and up for feeders, you almost can’t fail to make money if you have any idea at all what you’re doing and aren’t overstocked. It isn’t always that way, and not everywhere, but it is now and here. But land, of course, is very expensive, and farmers and ranchers have to pay for it out of after-tax income, which isn’t good every year.

Poultry and hogs are raised entirely on grain and grain byproducts, but it isn’t all corn. Most cattle are not, and most of those that are (feeders) are fed mostly grain byproducts like brewers’ grain, cottonseed and rice hulls and wheat fines. Corn is too expensive for most feed outs and, besides, it has little protein in it. They used to supplement with soybean meal, but since China now buys 40% of the crop, they have been forced to find substitutes. They are fed “grain” for 80-120 days only. That’s the “prime” stuff. Those grain-feeding days are shortening, though, because of the cost of grain, and feedlots “upstream” more of the growout back to the ranchers or backgrounders. That’s done on grass, sometimes on early wheat fields. But that’s okay, because they pay for that extra weight.

Hogs’ diets are now more varied, but with poultry it does take a significant amount of corn as a percentage of their diet. Even “range chickens” are fed grain, so unless one gives up poultry entirely, one is going to eat grain-fed.

Corn is, indeed, subsidized. But more of it goes to ethanol now than goes into animal feed.

I don’t like “industrial tomatoes” either, and largely avoid them. I don’t know why people buy them. In season, I buy them at the farmers’ market where there are many, many varieties. Out of season, the few I eat come from Chile and they’re very good.

I am not sure what people are eating that has all that corn in it. Twinkies perhaps. Candy. Ready-made this or that. I don’t eat corn except in the summertime, and most definitely don’t eat corn syrup. I’m not persuaded yet that obesity is largely due to consumption of corn, but perhaps you can provide the studies demonstrating that.

Finally, at some point one has to admit that politicians’ actions affect peoples’ lives and can skew economies. One would have to be awfully dedicated to a government not to see those adverse consequences when they happen. You have presented a discourse on the terrible diets Americans have, and of which you at least suggest people are largely unaware. Are you not critical of the government for at least that, if it’s so? The “iron tomatoes” you dislike are largely grown on land that is irrigated through government subsidies. Are you okay with that too?
 
Government doesn’t make such decisions arbitrarily. Government is clicks to the heels of lobbyists, and the strongest lobbyists belong to large corporations. Those decisions always benefit large corporations and hurt the small guy.Everything is determined by corporate interests. Political decisions, what products alpha consumers want, mindsets on aging and beauty - all of these are decided by commercials, and commercials are driven by large interests. This is capitalism at it’s worst, and many catholic bishops have rightly labelled it an evil. The way I see it, there has to be a mix.

I believe that we should pay taxes for the common good. The aging roads, bridges, sewers, and other infrastructure that we depend on were built by government, Government is not bad. It is what advanced civilization. If you look at the state of the world without strong central governments during the dark ages, the proto-renaissance, and somewhat into the mid-renaissance, you see vile and cruel conditions that make modern society look like paradise.

Your friend
Sufjon
Possibly the corporations have the strongest lobbyists. Unions and government worker lobbyists are not insignificant either. Are you okay with this? Or do you think it appropriate to act politically insofar as you can, to oppose it? Are you okay with big contributors getting massive subsidies that get lost as was the case with Solyndra? Did you approve of the subsidies to the “too big to fails”?

Not only bishops have condemned commercial exploitation and consumerism. So has every Pope since Pope Leo XIII. They also condemned excessive dependency on government. They also promoted the individual and family acquisition of productive, inheritable assets. Are you on all fours with that? If so, then at what point is government or corporate pre-emption of those assets something you would criticize?

Frankly, I am not persuaded yet that strong central governments like that of imperial Rome had a lot to recommend themselves over the relatively weak governments of the high Middle Ages or the Renaissance. Nor am i yet persuaded that federal infrastructure programs are necessarily better than state and local ones. That’s particularly true when, as now, the federal authorities are proposing to provide yet another subsidy of union workers, allegedly to “build infrastructure” when the last time they told that one, it did nothing of the sort. And when I see my state and local authorities taking very good care of infrastructure, I can’t help wondering where you would draw the line on lobbyist-driven spending programs.

One assumes you know that government transfer payments reduce resources available for transfers within families, to charities and so forth. So, where do you, personally, draw the line on government pre-emption of peoples’ earnings?

And you never really did tell me whether all of your employees make as much as you do. Which ones don’t, and why?

Finally, have you yet found a way to reduce energy consumption in, say making metal alloys, like you did with overhead lighting in your place of business? If not, are you yet willing to grant that the prospect of unpredictable energy cost increases really does affect business decisions about incurring other costs such as the cost of labor?
 
Hogs’ diets are now more varied, but with poultry it does take a significant amount of corn as a percentage of their diet. Even “range chickens” are fed grain, so unless one gives up poultry entirely, one is going to eat grain-fed.
Corn is, indeed, subsidized. But more of it goes to ethanol now than goes into animal feed.
I am not sure what people are eating that has all that corn in it. Twinkies perhaps. Candy. Ready-made this or that. I
Corn has found it’s way into the following products, aided by the fact that it is cheap to buy:

Adhesives (glues, pastes, mucilages, gums, etc.)
Aluminum
Antibiotics (penicillin)
Asbestos insulation
Aspirin
Automobiles (everything on wheels)
xxx- cylinder heads
xxx- ethanol - fuel & windshield washer fluid
xxx- spark plugs
xxx- synthetic rubber finishes
xxx- tires
Bread,
Baby food
Batteries, dry cell
Beer
Breakfast cereals
Candies
Canned vegetables
Carbonated beverages
Cheese spreads
Chewing gum
Chocolate products
Coatings on wood, paper & metal
Colour carrier in paper & textile, printing
Corn chips
Corn meal
Cosmetics
C.M.A. (calcium magnesium acetate)
Crayon and chalk
Degradable plastics
Dessert powders
Dextrose (intravenous solutions, icing sugar)
Disposable diapers
Dyes
Edible oil
Ethyl and butyl alcohol
Explosives - firecrackers
Finished leather
Flour & grits
Frozen foods
Fructose
Fuel ethanol
Gypsum wallboard
Ink for stamping prices in stores
Insecticides
ice cream
Instant coffee & tea
Insulation, fibreglass
James, jellies and preserves
Ketchup
Latex paint
Leather tanning
Licorice
Livestock feed
Malted products
Margarine
Mayonnaise
Mustard, prepared
Paper board, (corrugating, laminating, cardboard)
Paper manufacturing
Paper plates & Cups
Peanut butter
Pharmaceuticals - The Life Line of The Hospital
Potato chips
Rugs, carpets
Salad dressings
Shaving cream & lotions
Shoe polish
Soaps and cleaners
Soft drinks
Starch & glucose (over 40 types)
Syrup
Tacos, tortillas
Textiles
Toothpaste
Wallpaper
Wheat bread
Whiskey
Yogurts

This is just a partial list. And most of those things listed as ingredients on the back of products that have 26 letters in their names? Big words for corn derivatives for the most part.

A recent study at the University of California-Berkeley has found what most Americans are made of – CORN. Scientists tested a strand of hair of an average American and the carbon in that hair was 69% from corn. basically, the hair was 69% corn. When they compared it to a strand of hair of an average European – it had only a 5% level of corn. My point is that you can trace the start of the obesity epidemic in the US to the advent of corn as a main staple in the making of food products.

Your friend
Sufjon
 
Poultry and hogs are raised entirely on grain and grain byproducts, but it isn’t all corn. Most cattle are not, and most of those that are (feeders) are fed mostly grain byproducts like brewers’ grain, cottonseed and rice hulls and wheat fines. Corn is too expensive for most feed outs and, besides, it has little protein in it. They used to supplement with soybean meal, but since China now buys 40% of the crop, they have been forced to find substitutes. They are fed “grain” for 80-120 days only. That’s the “prime” stuff. Those grain-feeding days are shortening, though, because of the cost of grain, and feedlots “upstream” more of the growout back to the ranchers or backgrounders. That’s done on grass, sometimes on early wheat fields. But that’s okay, because they pay for that extra weight.
Hogs’ diets are now more varied, but with poultry it does take a significant amount of corn as a percentage of their diet. Even “range chickens” are fed grain, so unless one gives up poultry entirely, one is going to eat grain-fed.
As of 2008, corn-fed cattle are the norm. While most cattle still begin their lives grazing on grass, the vast majority - an estimated three-quarters of them, are “finished,” or fattened for market, in feedlots. There, they spend three to six months (and most of their lives are only 11 months long in total) eating a diet composed of 70 to 90 percent corn. - U.S. Department of Agriculture. Of course, corn makes them sick, and this is why they are pumped full of antibiotics, and health officials are concerned that this is leading to problems such as antibiotic resistance in humans, as well as early puberty and early menopause.

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Sufjon
 
As of 2008, corn-fed cattle are the norm. While most cattle still begin their lives grazing on grass, the vast majority - an estimated three-quarters of them, are “finished,” or fattened for market, in feedlots. There, they spend three to six months (and most of their lives are only 11 months long in total) eating a diet composed of 70 to 90 percent corn. - U.S. Department of Agriculture. Of course, corn makes them sick, and this is why they are pumped full of antibiotics, and health officials are concerned that this is leading to problems such as antibiotic resistance in humans, as well as early puberty and early menopause.

Your friend
Sufjon
Explain why they get sick! 😛 Corn fed cattle develop acid in their stomach which allow e coli to thrive and get passed on to the consumer. Glad I watch Alton Brown and his advice on what to choose at farmer markets. Grass fed all the way 👍
 
Okay, so Vatican/Central Bank. The Wall Street Journal actually commented on the announcement, which is rare I think. The commentator is Robert Sirico of the Acton Institute.

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203554104576655052604890180.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

The salient points are:
  • Applause for recognizing financial market deregulation, the dropping of the gold standard and an increase in credit for creating conditions leading to multiple crises
  • Condemnation of central banks as being able to solve the current problem
  • While stopping short of calling for a return to a gold standard (he only gives minimal exploration to the topic) the opinion writer speculates that the document will stimulate debate, but laments that the document might give moral justification to government-centered solutions.
Food for thought.
 
I first read this on foxnews. They even worded the title to say something along the lines of the “Vatican calls for New Financial World Order”. And phrasing it that way, all the average ignorant american will see is “new world order” and then as the comments below said article had instantly proven, ignorant and arrogant attacks by evangelical protestants speaking about things they couldn’t possibly understand. “The Bible says this” “The Bible says that”. What they won’t ever admit is the fact the Catholic Church made the Bible. Sorry protestants. Attempting to use the Bible to discredit the Catholic Church makes as much sense as trying to use God the Son to discredit God the Father. You simply can’t.

I don’t know why in america its such a phenomenon. The truthers movement that won’t shut up about 9/11 and government involvement. There’s people still hunting bigfoot. People claim to be abducted by aliens all the time. And while those are mostly isolated elements (minus the truthers), this is just icing on the cake for all these conspiracy theorists. The Catholic Church, God’s Church and physical authority on Earth. Somehow satan has twisted people’s minds to see the Church God Himself created and promised the gates of hell would never prevail against, and somehow made people believe it was evil and the whore of babylon. Obviously I’m not worried because I have faith in Christ and I trust His word so I know the Catholic Church will never fall. And while it won’t be in my lifetime, eventually all the wayward christians will eventually learn for themselves they aren’t getting the full truth in their churches and they will come home to God’s Church in Rome. Christ left a Church behind Him when he left, not a book. Christ promoted unity. Therefore if Christ only made one Church and wants for all his children to be united in said Church, following Christ but denouncing God’s Church is as foolish as claiming to be Christian but worshipping satan.
 
Explain why they get sick! 😛 Corn fed cattle develop acid in their stomach which allow e coli to thrive and get passed on to the consumer. Glad I watch Alton Brown and his advice on what to choose at farmer markets. Grass fed all the way 👍
You’re right. If you eat meat, you should go for grass fed if you can find it.

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Sufjon
 
A recent study at the University of California-Berkeley has found what most Americans are made of – CORN. Scientists tested a strand of hair of an average American and the carbon in that hair was 69% from corn. basically, the hair was 69% corn. When they compared it to a strand of hair of an average European – it had only a 5% level of corn. My point is that you can trace the start of the obesity epidemic in the US to the advent of corn as a main staple in the making of food products.

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Sufjon
let’s have real scientific studies proving that the human body is 69% made of corn. I’ll check back later.
 
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