Thank you!
Good idea. Thanks!
That phrase came from the article you posted.
Don’t you think this is just a little bit excessive hyperbole? Are you aware that there are already congregations of sisters that have declined membership in the LCWR and formed their own association of Major Superiors precisely because they object to the heterodoxy tolerated and encouraged at LCWR?
Yes, but what happens to the individual congregations is not what this statement from the Holy See is about. That report is yet to come.Yes, I’m aware of all that. The point I was making (and that you agree with) is that what happens to this umbrella organization may or may not affect the groups under it. Then within the individual order/congregations/etc. not every person has to make the same decision.
Farther up this thread is an example of a few sisters who did leave one dissenting group and were invited into a different diocese to try and start a new congregation there. It can be done, even if it is difficult.
The Church as a whole does not want to just shut down order (short for all the various flavors) and send the women out to fend for themselves. They will work with each sister or groups of sisters to make sure they have a home if it comes to suppressing an order.
Nod and nod. Like many stories out there right now, we wait and see. But many of us are not too patient!
I knoooow many people aren’t patient. And I wonder how many people really only think they have a dog in this fight, when they really don’t. Interesting, no?Nod and nod. Like many stories out there right now, we wait and see. But many of us are not too patient!
Google Fr. Hans Kung and Fr. Matthew Fox. Those examples just spring to mind for starters.
No. And we’ll probably all hear about it. There are historical reasons for this that have rather little to do with prejudice between men’s and women’s orders though.
Hans Kung is a theologian and I don’t believe he belongs to a religious order.
I think folks are missing the point. The average age of women religious is 69 years old. There is a real crisis here. Maybe the Bishops think getting the best and brightest among them to tow the Magisterium line will help. I’m not so sure. Vocations aren’t dying out because women aren’t being given enough opportunity to demonstrate their “allegiance of mind and heart to the Magisterium of the Bishops”.
People are missing the point. And the hyperbole is astonishing.
Which you then used to portray as the message of the entire article, when the article was using that statement as something not to do.That phrase came from the article you posted.
Uh, what? The question was asked if the CDF investigates and, when necessary applies disciplinary measures against males (priests) or if this is just an assault on women. I provided two examples that prove that priests don’t get to just say or teach anything they want either.
Oh but I’m sure you do. It’s all about finding examples of things to point out, wave around and make waves over. And in the cases you chose, it didn’t even matter if they were irrelevant examples.
Ostensibly all that matters is the chase.I must need caffeine badly, because I’ve utterly lost your train of thought. The Holy See doesn’t “do what it wants,” it protects and proclaims the gospel in accordance with Tradition and Scripture.
No, manualman. I think we’ve got one of those cases where we agree on most of what we’re saying but we’re picking different words because we’re different people. It’s hard when all we have is a keyboard to work with.