Vatican's chief exorcist warns that practicing yoga is 'satanic' Gateway to Possession

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ST Francis of Assisi ,is giving Glory to God for his creation and not worshiping the sun.your confusing yourself
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I quoted a prayer of St. Francis, knowing what it was. I did not say what it was and what it was not. As a constant proof-texter, who even on this very thread posting nothing but Scripture, with no other comment, you have no right to say what I do is confusing, to myself or others.

So, I will clarify. What Pope Francis did was not sun worship. Greeting the sun is not by necessity sun worship. I hope this clarifies any confusion.
 
Hear i was emphasizing worshiping idols,Yoga has different form of worship positions, pagan sacrifice to demons as mentioned in the Word of God .Catholic dont believe in sola scriptura but also the Catholic Traditions ,Apostolic teaching.You missing the point!
 
Especially to my worshipful brother sun, What you mentioned is wrong .

Here your Manipulated the Canticle of Brother Sun and Sister Moon of St. Francis of Assisi as worshiping the sun ,your not truthful ,your trying to argue with out basis . deviating from the current topic of Yoga

Most High, all-powerful, all-good Lord, All praise is Yours, all glory, all honour and all blessings.

To you alone, Most High, do they belong, and no mortal lips are worthy to pronounce Your Name.

Praised be You my Lord with all Your creatures,
especially Sir Brother Sun,
Who is the day through whom You give us light.
And he is beautiful and radiant with great splendour,
Of You Most High, he bears the likeness.

Praised be You, my Lord, through Sister Moon and the stars,
In the heavens you have made them bright, precious and fair.

Praised be You, my Lord, through Brothers Wind and Air,
And fair and stormy, all weather’s moods,
by which You cherish all that You have made.

Praised be You my Lord through Sister Water,
So useful, humble, precious and pure.

Praised be You my Lord through Brother Fire,
through whom You light the night and he is beautiful and playful and robust and strong.

Praised be You my Lord through our Sister,
Mother Earth
who sustains and governs us,
producing varied fruits with coloured flowers and herbs.
Praise be You my Lord through those who grant pardon for love of You and bear sickness and trial.

Blessed are those who endure in peace, By You Most High, they will be crowned.

Praised be You, my Lord through Sister Death,
from whom no-one living can escape. Woe to those who die in mortal sin! Blessed are they She finds doing Your Will.

No second death can do them harm. Praise and bless my Lord and give Him thanks,
And serve Him with great humility.
 
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I’d just like to add that, from my own experience with the occult, you really have to want to find people who are genuinely practicing it. Where the real evil stuff is, most of us wouldn’t be able to find those sorts of people (Satanists somewhat excluded). They aren’t about converting people.
 
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Am not insulting any one read my post again Please dont deviate from the topic of Yoga sorry i have to flag you post or stop answering baseless and false statement
 
Francis said:
Am not insulting any one read my post again Please dont deviate from the topic of Yoga sorry i have to flag you post or stop answering baseless and false statement
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Posters have a right to respond to your accusations. Whether those accusations specifically mention yoga or not.
 
He was mentioning of St. Francis of Assisi worshiping the sun is it rights?,
 
angel12 said:
Posters have a right to respond to your accusations. Whether those accusations specifically mention yoga or not.
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The post in question, for which I was accused of not being truthful, was a quote. Go figure. Even if yoga has a pose to greet the sun, that is not the same as worship the sun, any more than the personification of the sun (and moon) by St. Francis was sun worship.

In any case, stretching one’s muscles is not sun worship any more than eating the meat of idols is idol worship. Idols are just wood and metal and the sun is an orb of gas undergoing fusion.
 
JamalChristophr said:
I am always careful to keep my right pinky curled in and my wrist slightly bent just to avoid that very position! (Thank you for reminding us all of its dangers. 🤨)
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Not sure what you were replying to here. I was responding to a post that implied that if someone says the yoga pose that is lying flat on the floor is doing something wrong, then that person is saying that anyone who lies on the floor that way is doing something wrong. The example of laying on the floor was the previous poster’s premise, and so I continued with it.

I meant that it is erroneous to say, “because lying on the floor is not always and everywhere wrong, it cannot ever be wrong.” For example, if you were assuming that particular posture because it is a prayer form to a Hindu god or goddess, it is idol worship and the Israelites could tell you a thing or two about how God feels about that.

I used breathing as an example. Breathing isn’t outlawed because they do it in religious practices we do not agree with. Breathing as an opening to an invitation to a spirit to enter into you and guide you: extremely hazardous!

Likewise, stretching and exercise is great. The concern is that these programs are called “Yoga” because they derive from the physical discipline of a particular form of worshipping Hindu deities. So the question that needs to be discerned in truth is: can Yoga be acceptable? Is the particular form practiced where I am interested in doing it acceptable? What are the risks? Are their alternatives that satisfy my goals without any dubiousness? What does it mean if I am wrong? What does it mean if the other side of the argument is wrong?

Not an easy blanket answer that you can say definitively for every person and every case, though I’m not sure what the harm could be in erring on the side of caution and clarity in who your God is.
 
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pnewton said:
In any case, stretching one’s muscles is not sun worship any more than eating the meat of idols is idol worship. Idols are just wood and metal and the sun is an orb of gas undergoing fusion.
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And yet, God, the omniscient and all-powerful Creator of the Universe, was very clearly not a fan of idol worship. I would go with his advice.
 
I was just being cheeky (and actually referring to the post you were replying to.) I agree with your post. From my perspective, I have to really wonder if any minds are changed in threads on yoga at CAF. I know people generally mean well on either side, or I will at least give them the benefit of the doubt , but yoga threads have some similarities to modesty threads.
 
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Teek said:
I would go with his advice.
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That is exactly why I quoted Scripture. God’s advice.

Just to be clear, no one is suggesting we engage idol worship. Idolatry is always wrong in every form.
Teek said:
It was a canticle of praise TO GOD ALONE, and explained how praise is given to God through creation. It did not give praise TO creation.
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No one said it did.
 
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I thought Father Amorth was released from his vows, and was living with a woman at the time of his death. Does not sound like a “deeply traditional figure” to me. Sounds like the devil got to him.
 
Father Amorth was a loyal son of the Church up until his death last year. As far as I am aware, it is a fact that he was indeed Chief Exorcist for the Diocese of Rome. Anyone who makes light of anything he has said in relation to the prince of darkness may do so at their own peril. He may not be infallible, but his words ought to be well considered. That is my position. Take it for what you will.

However, if anyone asserts to him having said such and such is consequently obliged to give an exact citation for the reference made.
 
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JamalChristophr said:
he was indeed Chief Exorcist for the Diocese of Rome
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I am trying to find that title description and have been for most of the day. I like your idea of needing citations, so have you seen this anywhere other than news media? I can’t find it in the Church.
 
At the moment, I do know it can be found on the back cover of his book, printed by Ignatius Press, “An Exorcist Tells His Story” , 1999. (First printed in Italian, 1990)

It is possible that it is more an honorary or de facto distinction rather than an official title. I can look a bit, but sometimes it is helpful to know Italian. 🤔
 
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It’s not surprising. Yoga is a spiritual Hindu exercise. I however know many people who do it and are not possessed.
 
The Reverend Gabriele Amorth, SSP (1 May 1925 – 16 September 2016) was an Italian Roman Catholic Priest and an exorcist of the Diocese of Rome who claimed to have performed tens of thousands of exorcisms over his half a dozen plus decades as a Catholic Priest. He never served as “the Vatican’s chief exorcist” or any similar role, despite popular media headlines

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Gabriele Amorth - Wikipedia

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I just showed this thread to the 2 hindu’s I share an office with. They are still laughing 20 minutes later.
 
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