Within the margin of error essentially putting this where every other poll puts it; a dead heat. For the Obama campaign this doesn’t really matter but its an important and possibly worrying indicator for the Romney campaign. Ryan isn’t making the independents swoon as much as they had banked on.
I don’t doubt that, but I hadn’t heard anything about Ryan and Biden running for President. I thought they were competing for the Vice-Presidency. If so, it’s only Gergen’s personal opnion.
Were you playing the Debate drinking game Rich, 'cause you’re slurring your words.
Personally I think Ryan held his own and Biden lost it with his pompous and rude antics, not to mention he appeared just as angry when questioned on his record as president Obama was. Not a good thing in a close race.
Biden needed a decisive win after Obama’s disaster, he did not get it, most of the polls and focus groups are showing tie or Ryan with a lead. That tells me think people think Ryan is acceptable as vice presidential nominee and do not believe the extremist meme the democrats have targeted him with, that is a win for Romney/Ryan, not for Obama/Biden
Indeed!
I would hope that the man who is a heart beat away would be presidential. Biden wasn’t, Ryan was.I don’t doubt that, but I hadn’t heard anything about Ryan and Biden running for President. I thought they were competing for the Vice-Presidency. If so, it’s only Gergen’s personal opnion.
Remember the forum.
I beg to differ. In debates like this, if the “challenger” (Ryan) holds his own (which he clearly did) then he has done his job.
I agree that it was fairly even, but I disagree that Biden needed a big win. Biden needed to stop the bleeding and change the narrative from now until the next debate. I think he did that to some extent. Even if Biden lost, people will be talking about how Biden acted and not how Obama got his clock cleaned for the next week.
All Biden needed was to keep people engaged with the Democratic point of view and keep independents from swinging over to the Romney/Ryan ticket. He achieved both.
Its not a win for anyone. The independents haven’t gone anywhere.
Not at all what was said. Two choices, Obama and Romney, which is a giant step in the right direction? Answer that and you know where to place your vote if life is important to you.
Spin. Biden needed to reverse Romney’s momentum with his debate performance. He didn’t do that at all. Therefore- loss for Obama/Biden.
And what are his goals? do they relate to their platform? do they support liberty and justice for all?
I see a reduction in momentum given the fact that there wasn’t any following this debate. The independents are still on the fence.
People are talking about, including liberals on CNN and elsewhere, about Biden’s grinning, interrupting, condescending remarks which is overriding talk of policy. Ryan won by not losing this debate. Nothing big will change from last week
Romney wasn’t smirking and laughing when the discussion was about Iran’s nuclear capability.