Visits to Hell and my thoughts about it

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There have been people mostly protestant make claims that they visit hell. These things concern me and it makes me fear God (not in a way that makes me get closer to him) and the way I live my life. I feel a bit paranoid about whatever happens next to me and my love ones and scared of going to hell because I failed to follow God. Every time I read these hell stories it makes me want to hope that their experience was not true. I do believe that hell is real and that the people who told these stories should focus on their relationship with God. But their stories make me feel hopeless. What does not help me is the people they told are in hell, I read two stories where they both say that Michael Jackson and Pope John Paul II. When it comes to Michael Jackson it could be possible that he is in hell, but for Pope John Paul II I was having mix feelings about. Stories such as Angelica Zambrano and this Filipino Girl (No name given who’s story will be given as a link, there was a youtube video but it was deleted). A lot of protestants say that their experience is true because it is biblical and that what makes me worry. I have left the Catholic Church and became a Protestant because of these kinds of stories. This is a crazy feeling I have experienced when I left the Catholic church. I want to come back, but I feel scared. I don’t feel I have control over myself and feel like I don’t have a good relationship with God. Have any of you guys ever met someone like me who felt this way?

 
What do you mean by that? These stories is giving me the idea that the Catholic Church is false and misleading people is that what you don’t understand.
 
Patrick2000 said:
There have been people mostly protestant make claims that they visit hell.
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You lost me right there, as quite a few Catholic saints have said they saw hell in a private revelation. Their revelations are credible. Some Protestant on the Internet is not.

Also, Pope John Paul II is a canonized saint of the Catholic Church which means the Church has investigated and declared that he is in Heaven. Catholics should believe the Church on this and not pay any attention to non-Catholics who make silly claims that Pope JPII is in Hell.

Do yourself a favor and read the Catholic accounts of Hell instead of some Protestant on the Internet claiming they went to Hell and saw celebrities and Catholic saints there. You shouldn’t even be scared over such silly accounts, you should laugh and then stop reading or watching.
 
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The stories you are reading are false. The Catholic Church is not false. You are seriously misled in your thoughts. The Catholic church has declared anyone is in hell. Yes, it teaches there is a hell, but it will never state who is there. The Church doesn’t know. Rather, the Church prays for the living and the dead.
Stop reading what you are reading. It is, as you state, just “stories.” Start to fill your mind with prayer and the Gospels. Get back to the sacraments by starting with Confession. You are filling your mind with evil rubbish.
 
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Beloved, I understand what you’re saying.

Hell is real, and it is a place where the damned go. But, listen here. When we are constantly thinking about hell, we start living with an unhealthy fear and imperfect love for God.
We should love God for what He is, our Father, Creator and Savior.
We should be filled with love for our Lord. While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Ever heard of imperfect contrition? That is when you are sorry for your sins but out of fear of punishment. Perfect contrition is when you repent because you are sorry that you hurt God and you are repenting and changing out of love for Him.

Please, return to the Church. The Church has the fullness of the truth, and it is the Body of Christ. If we are not a part of His body, how can we expect that He will embrace us and say “Enter, dear child, into the joy of thy Lord” if we cut ourselves from His body?
Outside of the Church there is chaos and no salvation. I am a former Protestant, and Protestantism is pure chaos with thousands of doctrines, teachings and no authority.

Yes, hell is real, but it is not healthy or good for us to serve God because we fear hell and are constantly thinking about hell. Love God and others, study Church history, Catholic theology and doctrine, Catholic Answers apologetics material, pray and speak with priests and all Catholics who know their faith.

God be with you, and remember, where the Church is, Christ is there. Come to the Church, and let us all together serve God with love, joy, humility, fear, hope and faith! Peace!
 
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These stories rely on your fear. I’m not saying every Protestant everywhere is lying, but you really shouldn’t give credence to some random person on the internet, especially to a child who is likely being influenced by some unscrupulous adult.

Seriously, this stuff is not worth your time.
 
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Many saints had visions of hell. It’s not unique to protestantism. And unlike the latter, the saints are usually vetted before being declared saints.
 
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What does not help me is the people they told are in hell, I read two stories where they both say that Michael Jackson and Pope John Paul II
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There is also a story about a Nun who accidentally walked into a protestant church,and was shown a vision of demons driving nails into Martin Luther’s head, so I guess it all depends on what you want to believe.
 
Your claim that it’s mostly Protestants that visit Hell is patently false. Catholic Saints and visionaries have been having vision of Hell for a millennium prior to the advent of Protestantism.

Pick this book up. It give several examples of Catholic visionaries having experiences of Hell, along with a whole host of people ranging from the saintly to the degenerate.

The Dogma of Hell

To leave Catholicism because of the so-called visions of these people is the utmost folly.

One constant across all Catholic visionaries is that they are almost never allowed to publicly reveal the names of people they saw in Hell. The closest thing to publicly revealing the names of the damned I’ve read would probably be St. John Bosco’s visions. He lead a school for boys, and he frequently had dream relating to them and their moral failings. He would never say who his dreams related to specifically, but the boys in question would generally figure it out on their own and approach him. This is unique because, apart from one specific instance, his dreams involved boys who were still alive and only in danger of damnation. He only had one dream in which he was actually shown Hell, and he did not reveal the names of the boys he saw, only that some among them had been former students.

In most visions, even when names are known because of a personal relationship between the damned and the visionary, those names are almost always excluded from the record or replaced with false names to protect the identity of the damned, as it is not usually our place to know such information.

If a person claims to have a vision of Hell and ever lists off the names of people they’ve seen there, it’s a safe bet the revelation isn’t from God. I’m not saying that He never reveals names, but generally only to specific individuals, and they don’t tend to give pubic witness to it.

I highly suggest the book above to see how Catholics handle such revelations. (It’s a book more generally about the reality of Hell and the nature of damnation, but it is full of such visions) I would also suggest Forty Dreams of Saint John Bosco, which contains his vision of Hell, along with 39 other dreams which would be beneficial to learn about.

Then, after all this focus on Hell, you need to read Purgatory Explained, which helps to counterbalance God’s justice with His mercy. You don’t want to only focus on one side of the coin or you may be driven to believe you can’t be saved.

Do not fear returning to the Church. We have the joy of confession, and all it takes is a few minutes and a contrite heart to get right with God. Always remember, God wants you in Heaven more than you want you in Heaven.
 
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Patrick2000 said:
These stories is giving me the idea that the Catholic Church is false and misleading people is that what you don’t understand.
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You’re allowing them to give you that idea. You’re allowing them to take you away from the Church.
You can’t let yourself be blown around by every statement somebody makes. Anybody can say anything on the internet. If I tell you the moon is made of green cheese, are you going to believe it?
 
Another great book is The Four Last Things by Martin van Cochem.
 
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Techno2000 said:
There is also a story about a Nun who accidentally walked into a protestant church,and was shown a vision of demons driving nails into Martin Luther’s head, so I guess it all depends on what you want to believe.
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Wow. Just wow. (And the individuals who liked that post concerns me and shows a lot) Now I have heard of “some stories” but I would not mind to know where this one came from?

Now I am not saying this is “not” a story but I would like to know this particular source?

Kind Regards
 
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Techno2000:
There is also a story about a Nun who accidentally walked into a protestant church,and was shown a vision of demons driving nails into Martin Luther’s head, so I guess it all depends on what you want to believe.
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Wow. Just wow. (And the individuals who liked that post concerns me and shows a lot) Now I have heard of “some stories” but I would not mind to know where this one came from?

Now I am not saying this is “not” a story but I would like to know this particular source?

Kind Regards
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https://www.deepertruthcatholics.co...ll-Halloween-is-the-birthday-of-Protestantism
 
Be not afraid!

I like this saying of St. Padre Pio who said “Pray, Hope, and don’t worry.”

Many people could make claims about this or that regarding matters of faith. We need to remember that there are evil spirits and they can deceive people.

Be not afraid to come back to the Catholic Church. Pray, and go speak to a priest who can help you out of your confused feelings.
 
MichaelP3 said:
Wow. Just wow. (And the individuals who liked that post concerns me and shows a lot) Now I have heard of “some stories” but I would not mind to know where this one came from?

Now I am not saying this is “not” a story but I would like to know this particular source?
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It was a private revelation to a beatified person, which means that the revelation is approved by the Church (and can be discussed here), but Catholics are free to not believe it.

The nun was Blessed Maria Serafina of the Sacred Heart, whose name prior to religious life was Clotilde Micheli. She had the vision in question in 1883. She was beatified in 2011 by Pope Benedict XVI.
 
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The New Testament says to test all things saying

“but test everything; hold fast what is good” (1 Thes 5:21).

I wonder if you have tested these things, or accepted them uncritically. The Bible says not to do that.
 
ProdglArchitect said:
He lead a school for boys, and he frequently had dream relating to them and their moral failings. He would never say who his dreams related to specifically, but the boys in question would generally figure it out on their own and approach him
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My own view here as an educator is that he was using this to warn them to do better - we all have wayward students! . I don’t personally believe God would show anyone would will happen to individuals as isn’t that pre-determination? I think He might have shown a possible outcome to encourage repentance
 
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