Voting Democrat a mortal sin?

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I have heard several priests say that it can be a mortal sin if you knowlingly vote for a candidate that supports or promotes abortion. Abortion is considered thegreat evil of our time by mAny. As Catholics we need to follow the teachings of the church and vote to end this s evil.
 
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I have heard several priests say that it can be a mortal sin if you knowlingly vote for a candidate that supports or promotes abortion. Abortion is considered thegreat evil of our time by mAny. As Catholics we need to follow the teachings of the church and vote to end this s evil.
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I agree with you, but my question is how do you vote to end this evil? Voting for Democrats certainly isn’t the answer. But voting for Republicans isn’t either. Do you vote for candidates who have ZERO chance of winning, but do so because they are pro-life?

Look at Roe v. Wade, for instance. It was the Republicans who gave us that evil.
 
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As Catholics we are required to vote. And if a Catholic determines that the most moral option is for a third party candidate, it’s certainly better to vote than not to.
 
Voting Democratic is not a sin, Democrats have done some very good things. Supporting and promoting abortion is one of the grave wrongs they do. If you did not vote with the intent to support this then you have not committed a sin. I believe it’s considered romote cooperation with sin. However, as you have now realize what you ultimately supported, please consider not voting for Democratic candidates in the future. Personally, the life issue is #1. If they do not pass the life test, they do not get my vote.
 
I know it’s a really tough time. I’m not necessarily saying the Republicans are the answer to our questions, but lately we are seeing many more Republicans standing up for pro-life values, and other values that tend to be in line with Catholic teaching. The priests that I have heard talk about this say we need to pick the lesser of two evils and at this time, pro life is always the lesser of two evils compared to pro choice.
 
What democrats? We no longer have Democrats, we have far leftist socialist and closet communist running the house of representatives. How did they get voted in? By media blackouts to who they really are.
 
Yes, I understand the point, Democratic party not who they say they are. The original question though was, is it a mortal sin to vote Democratic if the person was not voting for Democratic ideals but against Trump? Maybe they didn’t realize it’s the party of Saul Alinsky.
 
One can certainly be a democrat pro-life voter because one can most certainly be democratic and pro-life. Not to try and sound like G.K. Chesterton here, but one can most certainly vote democratic and sleep well at night.

Remove the caricature of the woman hating pro-lifer, one who supports the woman before, during and after the birth until a way can be found that actually feeds her and the newborn infant with the needed health care associated with motherhood and infants, by all means…That is social justice. In other words it is putting your money where your mouth is, applying faith and reason, and applying the application of charity which is a verb when necessary.

Social security, medicare, and most social programs already in existence are here to stay, same as the clearing of our roads after snow, emergency alerts, our military, and public schools. To be hung up on the word ‘socialism’ while lopping off the churches teaching on unbridled capitalism is something a critical thinker ought not do when making decisions.

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Unfortunately, Republicans do not stand up for average Americans when it comes to other issues like a higher minimum wage, affordable health care, less taxes for the working and middle class, higher wages for teachers, better health care for our military veterans, etc.
And the big tax cut they gave to the millionaire and billionaire class really ticked me off.
I cannot base my vote on the abortion issue alone.
As much a I abhor abortion, I cannot be a single-issue voter.
For those of you who can, that is your right.
 
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Unfortunately, Republicans do not stand up for average Americans when it comes to other issues like a higher minimum wage, affordable health care, less taxes for the working and middle class, higher wages for teachers, better health care for our military veterans, etc.
And the big tax cut they gave to the millionaire and billionaire class really ticked me off.
I cannot base my vote on the abortion issue alone.
As much a I abhor abortion, I cannot be a single-issue voter.
For those of you who can, that is your right.
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You have stated that you would support a raped family member who had an abortion and would not welcome the child into your family should she choose to parent the child.

Forgive me if I don’t think you really abhor abortion.
 
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One can certainly be a democrat pro-life voter because one can most certainly be democratic and pro-life. Not to try and sound like G.K. Chesterton here, but one can most certainly vote democratic and sleep well at night.

Remove the caricature of the woman hating pro-lifer, one who supports the woman before, during and after the birth until a way can be found that actually feeds her and the newborn infant with the needed health care associated with motherhood and infants, by all means…That is social justice. In other words it is putting your money where your mouth is, applying faith and reason, and applying the application of charity which is a verb when necessary.

Social security, medicare, and most social programs already in existence are here to stay, same as the clearing of our roads after snow, emergency alerts, our military, and public schools. To be hung up on the word ‘socialism’ while lopping off the churches teaching on unbridled capitalism is something a critical thinker ought not do when making decisions.

God Bless!~
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Um, yeah, the one who supports mother and baby and provides healthcare and support? That’s not the government, folks, it’s called a FATHER. In the olden days, women would choose a man and even marry him before she got pregnant. What a concept! Then there is a family unit and kids are not born into poverty.
Thanks democrats for ruining the family unit!
 
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Feel free to judge me. This would not be the first time someone has expressed an opinion about me or my opinions.
I do not have to support abortion to state that I would not want to have my wife or one of my daughters to birth the child of a rapist. That is my feeling about it. If you want to judge my about that, feel free.
What all that has do with voting for a Democrat or a Republican escapes me. But Elf01, feel free to hate on me, if that gives you some kind of pleasure.
 
The apostle Paul said “to him who knows to do right, and does not do it, is sin.”
 
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In the lack of a Father or traditional family home and income, yes. I would rally for needed support.

ps: A childless father can come in all ways my fellow brother in Christ. Including a father lost in combat, the police force, and even due to abandonment which bears no true fault on behalf of a child. You see, I’m pro-life. This extends from conception to grave WITHOUT judgement.

Peace to you.
 
This is a very interesting article. It states that the “lack of shotgun marriages” accounts for the huge rise in out-of-wedlock births. Seems obvious but here is a long article about that. Also, surprise, the availability of birth control and abortion used as birth control:

"What links liberalized contraception and abortion with the declining shotgun marriage rate? Before 1970, the stigma of unwed motherhood was so great that few women were willing to bear children outside of marriage. The only circumstance that would cause women to engage in sexual activity was a promise of marriage in the event of pregnancy. Men were willing to make (and keep) that promise for they knew that in leaving one woman they would be unlikely to find another who would not make the same demand. Even women who would be willing to bear children out-of-wedlock could demand a promise of marriage in the event of pregnancy.

The increased availability of contraception and abortion made shotgun weddings a thing of the past. Women who were willing to get an abortion or who reliably used contraception no longer found it necessary to condition sexual relations on a promise of marriage in the event of pregnancy. But women who wanted children, who did not want an abortion for moral or religious reasons, or who were unreliable in their use of contraception found themselves pressured to participate in premarital sexual relations without being able to exact a promise of marriage in case of pregnancy. These women feared, correctly, that if they refused sexual relations, they would risk losing their partners. Sexual activity without commitment was increasingly expected in premarital relationships."

www.brookings.edu

An analysis of out-of-wedlock births in the United States | Brookings

George Akerlof and Janet Yellen look at the decline in shotgun marriages and rise in the births out of wedlock.
www.brookings.edu www.brookings.edu
 
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Yes, but we must always make clear that adoption and single parenthood are making the best of a bad situation, not goods in themselves.
 
If you don’t know it’s mortal than it isn’t.

I can’t see voting for a party being sinful unless you are deliberately voting that way to support an evil like abortion.
 
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The priests that I have heard talk about this say we need to pick the lesser of two evils and at this time, pro life is always the lesser of two evils compared to pro choice.
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You have heard priests say that we should vote for evil? I find that appalling. I will never vote for evil. If there are nothing but evil choices, I’m just staying home. I’ll be happy to face my Maker at judgment day.
 
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