VP candidate Kaine is 'cafeteria Catholic,' archbishop says [CC]

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In a strongly worded column published in his archdiocesan newspaper, Archbishop Joseph Naumann has labeled Democratic vice-presidential candidate Tim Kaine as “an orthodox member of his party, fulling embracing his party’s platform, but a cafeteria Catholic, picking and choosing the teachings of the Catholic Church that are politically convenient.”

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That term is frowned on by one bishop I know…I wonder what Pope Francis thinks about the term.
 
It’s about time we heard something like this from a bishop of the Church. Keeping silent is not working. Even if this doesn’t work and convince Senator Kaine of his wrongdoing, at least it has been made crystal clear to the rest of the faithful that his stance is in no way compatible with the teachings of the Church on abortion.
 
maybe he thinks it makes him seem sensitive…:rolleyes:
Well, I got a chuckle out of that. It seems to me that the Church has suffered from an excess of sensitivity for about half a century now! For the history books this may become known as the Age of Sentimentality in the Church. But doctrine doesn’t depend on sentiment.
 
Probably that it’s quite charitable since Kaine seems opposed to all Church teaching.
Obviously you are speaking hyperbole, because unless you know Kaine intimately, how could you conclude he is, or even seems, “opposed to all Church teaching.”?🤷
 
In a strongly worded column published in his archdiocesan newspaper, Archbishop Joseph Naumann has labeled Democratic vice-presidential candidate Tim Kaine as “an orthodox member of his party, fulling embracing his party’s platform, but a cafeteria Catholic, picking and choosing the teachings of the Catholic Church that are politically convenient.”
Fortunately for the archbishop he was not posting that opinion here on this forum inasmuch as we are prohibited from making such accusations, even when the truth is so readily apparent.

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From the article:
theleaven.org/our-choices-end-where-anothers-more-fundamental-right-begins/

"Of course, religion will speak about fundamental human rights issues. However, to understand that the government has a right to protect human life is not dependent on religious belief. As the founders’ stated, these are self-evident truths. They are accessible to everyone through the use of reason. They do not require faith.

Why is Senator Kaine personally opposed to abortion, if he does not believe that it is the taking of an innocent human life? I hope in his science classes at Rockhurst he learned that at the moment of fertilization a new human life has begun with his or her own distinct DNA — different from the genetic code of both the child’s mother and father.

It is difficult to imagine that Senator Kaine has not seen the ultrasound images of his children and grandchildren when they were in their mother’s womb. Is the senator unaware that abortion stopped the beating hearts of 60 million American children aborted legally since 1973?

If he knows these truths of biology, why would he believe that anyone has the right to authorize the killing of an unborn human being? This is where the reproductive choice euphemism breaks apart. Does anyone really have the choice to end another human being’s life? Our choices end where another individual’s more fundamental rights begin."
 
Obviously you are speaking hyperbole, because unless you know Kaine intimately, how could you conclude he is, or even seems, “opposed to all Church teaching.”?🤷
Words matter, friend. The optimal word in my comment was seems, which would imply that I don’t know.

However he clearly opposes the Church in several very graves matters such as his extreme stance on abortion and SSM. He opposes life and family…those are cornerstones of Church teachings.
 
Words matter, friend. The optimal word in my comment was seems, which would imply that I don’t know.

However he clearly opposes the Church in several very graves matters such as his extreme stance on abortion and SSM. He opposes life and family…those are cornerstones of Church teachings.
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“It is interesting that Senator Kaine expressed his personal anguish when as governor he enforced capital punishment sentences. He gave the impression that he attempted unsuccessfully to convince Virginians to abolish the death penalty. Yet, with regard to legalized abortion, I am not aware of Senator Kaine making a similar effort to convince his constituents to work for public policies that protect the lives of the unborn. Instead, he appears eager to champion not only maintaining the status quo, but actually expanding abortion rights.”

Archbishop Naumann
 
“It is interesting that Senator Kaine expressed his personal anguish when as governor he enforced capital punishment sentences. He gave the impression that he attempted unsuccessfully to convince Virginians to abolish the death penalty. Yet, with regard to legalized abortion, I am not aware of Senator Kaine making a similar effort to convince his constituents to work for public policies that protect the lives of the unborn. Instead, he appears eager to champion not only maintaining the status quo, but actually expanding abortion rights.”

Archbishop Naumann
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