Walmart walkout: workers mount black Friday job action

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misspriss said:
Most people who work at walmart know what they are getting into. I worked there for 4 and a half years, I was never treated badly. It was a decent job. I worked Thanksgiving almost every year, it was a really slow day and we got holiday pay. Walmart only closed for 36 hours, from 6:00 pm Christmas eve until 6:00 am the day after Christmas. People actually really complained about the fact they closed (customers) I never understood that. Anyway, I knew what I was getting into when I took a job there. I was never treated badly. I left for a higher paying job later on.

Anyway, I don’t think it is good idea to walkout or anything, Like I said, it’s part of the job.
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Maybe its regional. In WV the cashiers are SO bad, when we do shop there, we go through self checkout.
 
oldcelt said:
In my town Walmart is habitually understaffed because people have come to realize that they are just another piece of equipment. Walmart can no longer get the applications they need to staff their store.

Serves them right.

John
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I actually agree with you on this. If Walmart is a bad place to work and people can do better, they will. It will be Walmart’s loss. That is the way the market works.
 
iloveangels said:
That’s a good part of why they have them. ROFLOL
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It’s hilarious. The screen actually has a computerized cartoon showing me how to scan, bag, and use the card…:rolleyes:
Can only imagine what employee training is like. 😃
 
iloveangels said:
Welcome to Business 101. You fancy yourself a Walmart executive, do you? It’s their job to make all these decisions and I"m sure they will. It’s a business, John.

Like the unions do, you mean? Get a grip, John. The world doesn’t work by the simplistic rules you have here. This is 1950s talk. And this is about business, not some social science theory.

Trust me, you can say any kind of wild thing you want, but it’s not going to change the fact that these people are skating on thin ice. Not showing up at work is deadly if you work in a store. That’s how the business works.
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Save the sarcasm for someone who responds to that type of tactic. You use it because you know that the FACTS will eventually be the ruin of businesses like Walmart.

BTW, the 1950s was a period of great growth and prosperity and a highly successful middle class. You have a problem with that?

Business that functions without the welfare of their employees in mind is not worthy of success…I believe the church says something along those lines.

John
 
iloveangels said:
Well, seeker if you like that store better, go for it. People can shop where they want.
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And that’s what the Walmart workers are hoping will happen-that people will look at the business practices of the places they shop and choose differently.

As Catholics we should be at the head of the line helping people who want to spend holiday time with their families and be treated with justice in their workplace. When we aren’t, we lend credence to those who say that we don’t care about the dignity of the human person once it’s outside the womb.
 
Has anybody brought up the fact that Walmart specializes in goods made in third world countries by near slave labor?
Just pointing it out.
 
JustaServant said:
Has anybody brought up the fact that Walmart specializes in goods made in third world countries by near slave labor?
Just pointing it out.
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Tell that to all the people who insist on buying those products.

And tell that to all the Americans who, with all their robots and engineering, can’t figure out how to do it cheaper.

PS. In all the talk about “human dignity” I wonder where your concern about people who make these Walmart good is. If it were not for their jobs, they’d make even less money than they do. That’s why they work. Hello.
 
JustaServant said:
Has anybody brought up the fact that Walmart specializes in goods made in third world countries by near slave labor?
Just pointing it out.
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Maybe that’s what they’re trying to do over here. Keep pushing the envelope until they’re treating American workers just as poorly as the ones in those third world countries. After all think of how much MORE money they could make if they did that!
 
Seeker1961 said:
And that’s what the Walmart workers are hoping will happen-that people will look at the business practices of the places they shop and choose differently.
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They’ll just do themselves out of a job then. If it doesn’t bother them, it doesn’t bother me.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Maybe that’s what they’re trying to do over here. Keep pushing the envelope until they’re treating American workers just as poorly as the ones in those third world countries. After all think of how much MORE money they could make if they did that!
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GLOBALISM. Say it slowly and carefully. GLOBALISM.

Everyone competes and the old lines of defense are gone. It’s 2012, not 1958.

It’s not enough to join a union and phone it in anymore. You actually have to produce something of value now at a price that makes it sale-able. Otherwise you might as well just shut down, go home and stop wasting everyone’s time and money.
 
iloveangels said:
They’ll just do themselves out of a job then. If it doesn’t bother them, it doesn’t bother me.
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Oh you’ve made that abundantly clear. Too bad those workers aren’t “angels”, maybe you’d care about them and their families if they were.

I just want to know how you square your attitude with Catholic teaching because I can’t figure it out.
 
Seeker1961 said:
GREED…say it slowly and carefully…unbridled GREED
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I am not sure how we determine the extent of greed. After all, bosses are greedy, workers are greedy, government bureaucrats are greedy. Almost everyone is greedy. So bringing up greed does not shed much light on the problem.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Oh you’ve made that abundantly clear. Too bad those workers aren’t “angels”, maybe you’d care about them and their families if they were.

I just want to know how you square your attitude with Catholic teaching because I can’t figure it out.
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Oh, so the regular business world doesn’t cooperate so now you’re going to fall back on your social justice BS.

NEWSFLASH: Catholic Church employees are not unionized. Amazing, no? :eek:

Why is that?
  1. We can’t afford it.
  2. Organized crime is a sin.
  3. It would p**s about 99% of catholics off. 10% of the country is already ex-Catholic. Wanna see that increase?
  4. It’s not in the Gospel ANYWHERE.
    etc etc etc etc
 
iloveangels said:
LOL. Especially since people go out there and get into fistfights over this stuff and then go to the hospital and spend beaucoup bucks getting fixed up afterwards. Yeah, that’s saving money.
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I have to think that for some of them it is seen as an “experience” more so than a way to save a little bit of money.

I kind of want to go to Times Square on New Years once in my life just for the experience, knowing full well that it won’t be exactly “fun” in the conventional sense.

That’s the only explanation I can come up with in the Black Friday phenomena.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
I am not sure how we determine the extent of greed. After all, bosses are greedy, workers are greedy, government bureaucrats are greedy. Almost everyone is greedy. So bringing up greed does not shed much light on the problem.
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That’s 100% right.
 
oldcelt said:
Coal miners and many other class of workers were once little more than slaves who could lose their jobs. Then the unions changed all that, creating the great middle class in the process.

The decline of unions had led to lower real wages and a greater disparity in earnings. I, for one, hope this spurs more interest in union membership.

John
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Excellent historical analysis.
 
ringil said:
I have to think that for some of them it is seen as an “experience” more so than a way to save a little bit of money.

I kind of want to go to Times Square on New Years once in my life just for the experience, knowing full well that it won’t be exactly “fun” in the conventional sense.

That’s the only explanation I can come up with in the Black Friday phenomena.
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Actually, that’s entirely possible, ringil. This is just something to get your friends to laugh, and to say you did it.

What I always wonder about is, don’t these people have jobs? How can they sit out on the sidewalk for days? If I had vacation time, I sure wouldn’t spend it sitting around on a sidewalk in front of a Walmart store. Which definitely falls in the GET A LIFE category. :rolleyes: 😃
 
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